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Title: Long-term high fat diet/eczema
Post by: technosmith on July 07, 2012, 07:01:54 pm
Hey forum, i am under the impression that most would recommend that in the long-term most calories in the diet should be supplied via a raw fat source. However, i dont think my ability to process fat is very good, and i need to keep my fat intake quite low otherwise contrary to what many others find it actually seems to trigger eczema. My ability to process fat does not seen to be improving. Do u then consider using carbs as your main energy source, or find a way to improve your fat utilisation. Any thoughts guys?
Title: Re: Long-term high fat diet/eczema
Post by: Haai on July 08, 2012, 12:08:17 am
What fats do you eat?
Title: Long-term high fat diet/eczema
Post by: technosmith on July 08, 2012, 02:54:31 am
Raw grass fed beef bone marrow, raw grass fed beef fat, raw grass fed lamb fat, a couple of raw organic chicken egg yolks, sometimes lightly cooked whole organic chicken eggs, and extra virgin olive oil.
Title: Re: Long-term high fat diet/eczema
Post by: eveheart on July 08, 2012, 04:57:19 am
Hey forum, i am under the impression that most would recommend that in the long-term most calories in the diet should be supplied via a raw fat source. 

Actually, I'm not under this impression, that most of us would recommend that most of our calories coming from raw fat. My impression is that each person figures out what is right in each individual case. Likewise, carb ingestion varies widely.

My fat digestion works just fine from raw, unprocessed fats. The minute I play around with processed fats, I sing the blues.  From your list, I avoid olive oil and cooked eggs. EVOO is deceptive because many people read "extra virgin" and think that means something good. "Virgin" means the oil was extracted by pressure and not with solvents. Pressure can still involve exposing the oil to heat. "Lightly" cooking eggs denatures the protein by heating it up, and that's cooking.
Title: Re: Long-term high fat diet/eczema
Post by: bachcole on July 08, 2012, 05:31:59 am
Dear Technosmith,

my wife is oriental (OK Asian, whatever).  Our naturopathic doctor said that Asians (OK oriental, whatever) are not as able to metabolize fats as well as most other people, in general, of course.  To compensate because she was having trouble with lipid metabolism, our ND told her to take either lipase or pancreatin in pill form.  Lipase metabolizes fat, and pancreatin contains lipase along with other valuable digestive enzymes.  And I think, money-wise, pancreatin is much cheaper, even if all that you wanted was the lipase.  And digestive enzymes are just plain good, especially if you are getting older.

The other thing is to accept the fact that you may not have the genes to metabolize much fat, even if you are white or black or whatever.  Just make sure that you are eating excellent carbs.

The most excellent fun carb that I know is (no, not brownies, when I say "excellent fun carb" I mean excellent health wise and very tasty) "coconut palm tree sugar" or "palm tree sugar".  It is the nectar of the coconut or palm tree or both.

Talk about evolution!  The nectar of a coconut tree has to taste GREAT for bats and bees and other pollinators.  It must also nurture, or else those creatures will not be coming back to pollinate.  So it must be healthy.

I have found two types of coconut palm tree "sugar".  I forget the brand names.  One is sort of roasted and is in powder form.  I did not like it much.  I felt that roasting it ruined the taste and the health benefits.  I found at an Asian grocery store a paste that tastes so freaking good that it should be illegal.  And I think that it is minimally processed.

My experience with it confirms that the glycemic load is low, supposedly 7.  Although the science is pretty slim, one company who has a financial interest in the GL being low, my experience is that I can eat until I am satisfied and it does nothing to disrupt my sleep or anything else negative that happens to me when I eat high glycemic load foods.  It also takes very little to get to satisfaction, unlike the brownies that I mentioned above.
Title: Re: Long-term high fat diet/eczema
Post by: joej627 on July 08, 2012, 06:36:07 am
You might also look into liver flushing or coffee enemas.  Some people think they don't tolerate fat well because the liver is clogged up.  I know after cleansing my liver, the fats start digesting better.  I think most people have a lot of issues with fat maybe should try a liver flush or two.  I remember I listened to a radio show from Paul Chek awhile back some guy was like  "BUT i've been eating organic whole foods for 3 years!"  And he says, "how old are you?"  He says "28"..."So you have been eating junk for 25 years?"  We have to remember that all this stuff doesn't just go away because we start eating good.  Gotta do the cleansing work and it seems like the liver/kidneys just don't come unglued with a clean diet.  Just a different perspective  ;D
Title: Re: Long-term high fat diet/eczema
Post by: Haai on July 08, 2012, 11:32:53 pm
@technosmith

I would cut out the eggs and olive oil for a while (2 or 3 weeks) and see if there is any improvement.
Title: Re: Long-term high fat diet/eczema
Post by: letsdoiteczema on July 12, 2012, 06:46:58 pm
@Haai

Absolutely agree. I seemed to have some allergic reactions to eggs when I tried them at the start of RPD (rash on face would flare up). Olive oil is still processed stuff no matter how natural, extra virgin, organic it is. Caveman would not have olive oil.

Coffee enemas are great for stimulating bile production, dumping toxins and getting the liver moving/repairing.
Title: Coffee enema
Post by: technosmith on July 13, 2012, 02:52:52 am
I do regular coffee enemas, but dont seem to be seeing any improvements in my ability to process even top quality raw animal fat.
Title: Re: Long-term high fat diet/eczema
Post by: goodsamaritan on July 13, 2012, 07:41:07 am
I have doubts why we would need to do regular (weekly?) coffee enemas unless the person is ill or has a dirty liver. 

There are other ways to rebuild the liver:

- wheat grass juice
- raw red meat
- raw eggs
- Henry Bieler's soup
- eating raw liver
- turmeric

Once recovered, maybe the coffee enema thing could be every few months.

If people have gall bladder stones, the stones are already in the gall bladder so you do an olive oil liver / gall bladder flush.