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Title: honeycomb wax good for teeth?
Post by: svrn on November 03, 2012, 12:43:17 am
when i eat raw honeycomb and chew on the wax, it feels like a soothing massage for my teeth or something. i hear theres nothing of value in a honeycomb though. could it be good for your teeth to chew on comb?
Title: Re: honeycomb wax good for teeth?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 03, 2012, 12:50:09 am
The wax is great as it reduces the blood sugar rush that would otherwise occur.
Title: Re: honeycomb wax good for teeth?
Post by: svrn on November 03, 2012, 11:44:47 am
do you think the wax is great to swallow?
Title: Re: honeycomb wax good for teeth?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 03, 2012, 04:00:26 pm
do you think the wax is great to swallow?
Not particularly.
Title: Re: honeycomb wax good for teeth?
Post by: Igla on January 16, 2018, 09:00:54 pm
Not particularly.

Hi Tyler,
Do you think this has the wax in the product to keep the blood sugar down? Google: 'ys organics raw organic honey'

Thanks :P
Title: Re: honeycomb wax good for teeth?
Post by: TylerDurden on January 17, 2018, 02:28:13 am
Hi Tyler,
Do you think this has the wax in the product to keep the blood sugar down? Google: 'ys organics raw organic honey'

Thanks :P
There seems to be a misunderstanding. Honeycomb looks like this:-

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/55/85/b3/5585b38dd55df4cfb0e6acd2fdb68bdd.jpg

Honey in a jar hardly ever has honeycomb in it. The wax is all in the honeycomb, afaik. On the rare occasions that there is honeycomb in a jar of honey, the honeycomb is usually preheated prior to being put in there, so is useless. Best honeycomb is dark like in the image above. Heather honeycomb is, imo, the best tasting honeycomb.

Title: Re: honeycomb wax good for teeth?
Post by: Igla on January 17, 2018, 11:37:04 am
There seems to be a misunderstanding. Honeycomb looks like this:-

Honey in a jar hardly ever has honeycomb in it. The wax is all in the honeycomb, afaik. On the rare occasions that there is honeycomb in a jar of honey, the honeycomb is usually preheated prior to being put in there, so is useless. Best honeycomb is dark like in the image above. Heather honeycomb is, imo, the best tasting honeycomb.

Would you still reccommend taking the raw unfiltered honey mentioned even without the honeycomb?
Title: Re: honeycomb wax good for teeth?
Post by: TylerDurden on January 17, 2018, 04:11:24 pm
Would you still reccommend taking the raw unfiltered honey mentioned even without the honeycomb?
Yes, if you are absolutely sure it's not heated above 40 degrees Celsius. I used to live in the UK where the law allowed honey to be labelled raw as long as it was "only" heated to anywhere up to 80 degrees Celsius for a short while. My experiences with any liquid honey labelled raw in the UK were all bad, leading to too much blood-sugar-related issues, so I stuck to raw honeycomb from local farms(never from abroad if possible) and I still do that most of the time in Austria.
Title: Re: honeycomb wax good for teeth?
Post by: Igla on January 17, 2018, 09:54:58 pm
Yes, if you are absolutely sure it's not heated above 40 degrees Celsius. I used to live in the UK where the law allowed honey to be labelled raw as long as it was "only" heated to anywhere up to 80 degrees Celsius for a short while. My experiences with any liquid honey labelled raw in the UK were all bad, leading to too much blood-sugar-related issues, so I stuck to raw honeycomb from local farms(never from abroad if possible) and I still do that most of the time in Austria.

I see. Thanks for your valuable advice.
Do you mind sharing what you are eating as of late?
Title: Re: honeycomb wax good for teeth?
Post by: TylerDurden on January 18, 2018, 01:10:21 am
I see. Thanks for your valuable advice.
Do you mind sharing what you are eating as of late?
Errm, I overindulged in recent months so am now on a water-fasting regime to lose weight! 

My usual diet consists of raw wild game muscle-meat(wild mallard/wild moufflon/wild boar), raw wildcaught seafood(raw swordfish, raw tuna etc.) plus raw minced meat from grassfed cattle . I also eat raw plant food such as bananas, raw oranges, and grow raw sprouts of various kinds for consumption.Unlike with raw animal food,  I do not generally care about whether the fruit/veg is organic, though, every now and then I will visit the local organic supermarket and buy raw fruit/veg from them instead. In the summer, I will go for raw honeycomb and bee pollen. Oh, and I'll even get raw organic/free-range eggs at times but I view them as junk food, as reportedly, RVAFers often claim that chickens fed mostly carnivorously produce the only really decent eggs.
Title: Re: honeycomb wax good for teeth?
Post by: On a Quest, you want in? on October 22, 2019, 02:43:40 pm
Errm, I overindulged in recent months so am now on a water-fasting regime to lose weight! 

My usual diet consists of raw wild game muscle-meat(wild mallard/wild moufflon/wild boar), raw wildcaught seafood(raw swordfish, raw tuna etc.) plus raw minced meat from grassfed cattle . I also eat raw plant food such as bananas, raw oranges, and grow raw sprouts of various kinds for consumption.Unlike with raw animal food,  I do not generally care about whether the fruit/veg is organic, though, every now and then I will visit the local organic supermarket and buy raw fruit/veg from them instead. In the summer, I will go for raw honeycomb and bee pollen. Oh, and I'll even get raw organic/free-range eggs at times but I view them as junk food, as reportedly, RVAFers often claim that chickens fed mostly carnivorously produce the only really decent eggs.

You say to eat wild game, for how long? What about the fragments of lead shot that is send to spread throughout the animal when hit, isit Bs?
Title: Re: honeycomb wax good for teeth?
Post by: TylerDurden on October 22, 2019, 03:50:16 pm
Forever, if possible. Lead shot is not an issue. For example, I used to buy raw wild hare carcasses in vacuum-packed form so that they had lots of blood in the bags. The hunters would always shoot for the head with their shotguns so that the head was more or less blown off the body, and certainly any remainder was cut off with most of the leadshot being in the head. Sure, there were always still a few leadshot pellets left in the body, but they were always instantly detectable as long as I chewed the meat and cut it into reasonably small pieces at a time, so that I always spat the few pellets out, anyway, as I ate the meat.
Title: Re: honeycomb wax good for teeth?
Post by: On a Quest, you want in? on October 22, 2019, 05:07:16 pm
Forever, if possible. Lead shot is not an issue. For example, I used to buy raw wild hare carcasses in vacuum-packed form so that they had lots of blood in the bags. The hunters would always shoot for the head with their shotguns so that the head was more or less blown off the body, and certainly any remainder was cut off with most of the leadshot being in the head. Sure, there were always still a few leadshot pellets left in the body, but they were always instantly detectable as long as I chewed the meat and cut it into reasonably small pieces at a time, so that I always spat the few pellets out, anyway, as I ate the meat.

Recent studies are showing these leads pellets spread far, especially talking about deer in the UK. One park in Scotland have put a ban on lead and advise all to use copper or stainless. Do you believe that or not, I would prepare to eat game, but I'm unsure of the quality and have far this lead penetrates
Title: Re: honeycomb wax good for teeth?
Post by: Sol^Sa on October 22, 2019, 05:52:39 pm
I only eat honeycombs no processed honey. It simply tastes better, more satisfying. I asked a beekeeper from the local beekeeper community why I taste a difference. And I don't think it's just the texture. She told me it's probably micronutrients/trace elements missing in the processed honey. I get depressive moods from eating processed honey. Rarely from honey comb. The local beekeeper also told me Turks and other migrants are mostly his customers when it comes to honeycomb. The typical Austrian doesn't care for it prolly because he lives like a domesticated consumer sheep, he naturally gravitates to the "convenient" processed stuff. With the exception of the eastern part of Austria he told me honeycomb is rarely consumed.

Edit: I also mostly had positive experiences with wild game. Or game in general. Highly recommend. Never had problems with acute lead poisoning. Always feel better on game than on grass fed.
Title: Re: honeycomb wax good for teeth?
Post by: On a Quest, you want in? on October 22, 2019, 06:10:40 pm
Ok well no one seems worried about lead in wild game then. But do you get tests done to evaluate it?
Title: Re: honeycomb wax good for teeth?
Post by: TylerDurden on October 22, 2019, 07:13:37 pm
Don't be ridiculous. No need.
Title: Re: honeycomb wax good for teeth?
Post by: On a Quest, you want in? on October 22, 2019, 09:38:53 pm
Don't be ridiculous. No need.


That's fine I'd prefer to eat wild meat and dairy. But this lead thing I don't like the idea, especially if consuming large amounts of venison. You know Waitrose took wild venison off the shelf and now use farmed only because of what the data suggests?
Title: Re: honeycomb wax good for teeth?
Post by: Sol^Sa on October 23, 2019, 02:11:13 am
"Data" can be confusing. Instead of living in a symbolic world alone just try it out. I mean if the meat looks fine no detectable lead/poisoning/worms etc. My grandmother told me they let the meat rot until it had worms/maggots and they simply removed them and ate it, the meat obviously haha. And she lived very long and was a robust female highlander. Never sick with any infection. Although she would stick garlic cloves up her nostrils if people around her had the flu or something haha. Researching is fine, living in a symbolic world in fear is a misery most of us deal with. Go with your taste, physical reactions to the foods. Make sure food is as close as possible to a wild, natural state, unprocessed and then just do what feels good. Measuring stuff is also not necessary in that case imo. You know exactly what you need and how much. Humans are not stupid, we just don't have symbols that tells us what to do but feelings/cravings and these are even more accurate than some measurements given to you by some domesticated bookworms. Although you can get confused in this modern world full of chemicals but eventually you should get a feel for it if you avoid artificial living.