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Title: Total loss of hunger, thirst. Water retention and dryness
Post by: favetelinguis on July 04, 2013, 12:24:17 pm
About a year ago I totally lost all my appetite and thirst, I never feel a need to drink or eat. I even stopped eating for 2weeks just to see if I would get hungry. I have a slight tendency towards constipation but i would not say that is a problem as long as I don't drink much water, with only small amounts of water or any type of food eaten I can hear lots of water are getting stuck in my stomach and intestine and the more water I drink the dryer my skin becomes. I feel the best and my body works the best when I don't eat or drink anything, that is in the morning before I eat breakfast. You guys have any clue what is going on here?
Title: Re: Total loss of hunger, thirst. Water retention and dryness
Post by: jessica on July 04, 2013, 10:10:09 pm
what does your diet consist of when you do eat? do you eat much fat? do you use any salt on your food? do you take any supplements?  how are things in your life? stress level? social activity?
Title: Re: Total loss of hunger, thirst. Water retention and dryness
Post by: favetelinguis on July 04, 2013, 10:52:21 pm
I have tried most diets after i lost my appetite, from LFVegan, paleo and now im doing carnivor diet eating only meat, this i like since i cen get lots of calories in but i dont have to eat a ton of food. I use no extra salt or any suplements. There is no stess but i have ben very low in social activity, its been only me and my gf since i have been traveling for 9months.
Title: Re: Total loss of hunger, thirst. Water retention and dryness
Post by: LePatron7 on July 04, 2013, 11:10:25 pm
Start with adding in salt and go from there. You probably need more than that, some ZCers should chime in.
Title: Re: Total loss of hunger, thirst. Water retention and dryness
Post by: favetelinguis on July 05, 2013, 12:52:48 am
I did take a glass with salted water right now, about 30min after eating. It made me more energetic but i made me extremely depressed!!
Title: Re: Total loss of hunger, thirst. Water retention and dryness
Post by: LePatron7 on July 05, 2013, 01:08:22 am
I did take a glass with salted water right now, about 30min after eating. It made me more energetic but i made me extremely depressed!!

What kind of salt did you use? Honestly I'm not very experienced with ZC. But from what I've heard other members say it's not for everyone.
Title: Re: Total loss of hunger, thirst. Water retention and dryness
Post by: favetelinguis on July 05, 2013, 01:34:43 am
I used ordinary iodised salt, prob not the best but how big of a difference can it be.

I feel much better now after some time with salt, if feels like the heart is beating faster and pumping more blood through my body, i guess the effect of salt is to increase blood pressure? What are the physical effects of salt and how does this happen, what is manipulated by the salt in the body?

I guess salt is more important when eating lots of meat, the most paleo source of protein i guess would be insects and what i have read insect are rly high in Na and Cl making them salty. The sweet and sour taste we get from fruits and berries and the bitter taste we gett from leafy greens. Might it be this simple. Eating salted meat, with berries, bananas and lettuce?
Title: Re: Total loss of hunger, thirst. Water retention and dryness
Post by: favetelinguis on July 05, 2013, 01:36:20 am
O and the protein composition in insects is different than in muscle meats so it would be better to stick to sources with more collagen in them.
Title: Re: Total loss of hunger, thirst. Water retention and dryness
Post by: LePatron7 on July 05, 2013, 02:44:18 am
I used ordinary iodised salt, prob not the best but how big of a difference can it be.

Huge difference. Look into Real Salt, it's very inexpensive. There's also celtic sea salt.

I feel much better now after some time with salt, if feels like the heart is beating faster and pumping more blood through my body, i guess the effect of salt is to increase blood pressure? What are the physical effects of salt and how does this happen, what is manipulated by the salt in the body?

Salt, like all the other electrolytes, vitamins and minerals are needed by the body. Low salt/sodium is bad just like having low levels of any vitamin/mineral is bad. A diet of nothing but raw animal foods is usually pretty low in salt and likely various other things.

Eating salted meat, with berries, bananas and lettuce?

You don't necessarily need to salt your meat. I actually recommend against it. Salt will kill some bacteria and if the food is from healthy animals (grass fed, wild, etc) the bacteria will be beneficial. I personally use salt added to a small amount of water, then follow the salt water with regular water.

Also make sure you're getting enough fat. You probably want to stick to around 60-100 grams of protein, and at least double that much fat (120-250 grams of fat).
Title: Re: Total loss of hunger, thirst. Water retention and dryness
Post by: Dr. D on July 05, 2013, 05:35:31 am
Iodized salt is not raw or even real IIRC. It is a weird compound made in a lab. Nasty nasty stuff.

If you have a tendency towards constipation, it sounds like you need a little magnesium.
Title: Re: Total loss of hunger, thirst. Water retention and dryness
Post by: jessica on July 05, 2013, 06:01:43 am
magnesium and potassium.  and see if you can get some fatty fish/raw dairy, that should help.
Title: Re: Total loss of hunger, thirst. Water retention and dryness
Post by: favetelinguis on July 06, 2013, 12:55:34 am
I have had some huge success today, after spending the day reading about Ayurveda i found what my types of a personality is and i also found a very long time imbalance i have had that is probably the reason for why i feel worse now then i used to do. The things i see i can do to correct this would be to add orange peel and some leafy green salad to my diet. I did try this and it worked as a charm, no water in the stomach and i could feel the energy just flowing in my body. I guess those orange peels has some potential toxins in them but they do wonders :)
Title: Re: Total loss of hunger, thirst. Water retention and dryness
Post by: favetelinguis on July 10, 2013, 02:16:30 pm
I just want to finish this thread by adding the solution. Orange peels did work but it was not a pleasant solution in the long term. What did resolve the problem was adding some Magnesium as others have  pointed out in the thread. My hunger and thirst is far from what it should be but I think its going in the right direction. What did go away was the water in my intestines, right after I took magnesium it went away.
Thanks for the help!