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Title: Urgent Message re raw foodism page on wikipedia
Post by: TylerDurden on January 14, 2009, 09:36:34 pm
On several occasions, I've tried to maintain an unbiased entry for the raw foodism page of wikipedia. Despite continual attempts at sabotage by numerous anti-rawists using wikilawyering techniques to force  through their unreferenced, dodgy info while my own referenced contributions are continuously attacked. I have asked people , in the past, to help a bit, by having a look at the raw foodism page, once a week, and correcting, on their own initiative, any mistakes made, replacing bogus info etc. Unfortunately, very few people did so, and only temporarily.

What I'm trying to say is that there are two groups on wikipedia, 1 consists of the inclusionists and one of the deletionists. The deletionists are Satanic morons who are only interested in promoting the mainstream view, and wilfully remove all data about "fringe" subjects or change it in a very biased way. The only way to combat such deletionists is to have several people checking the raw foodism site regularly and undoing, or even better, changing the faulty data provided by anti-rawists. Otherwise, the deletionists will win, As it is, I'm the only rawist who has consistently made changes to the site, and I've had to spend hours providing wiki-friendly justifications for my corrections, while the anti-raw brigade try to get away with murder.

In short, I'm getting mighty tired of all this, and would ask people to contribute in their own way. Each  individual doesn't have to do much, just perhaps edit/add/delete a small paragraph once a week. it all helps. The more people are around fixing that raw foodism page on a regular basis, the greater the misery we inflict on the more fanatical deletionists.

So, get to it!!!
Title: Re: Urgent Message re raw foodism page on wikipedia
Post by: avalon on January 15, 2009, 07:15:27 am
I'm on it!  :D
Title: Re: Urgent Message re raw foodism page on wikipedia
Post by: Satya on January 16, 2009, 06:45:11 am
I am actually surprised to see no new additions to rawpaleodiet.com.  When I turned the pretty-well established site over to Craig, and it was changed to a cms project, I thought for sure that there would be some good chunks to chew on in no time.  But nothing has been added by anyone since then.  It's the one place where a positive approach is guaranteed.  I'd recommend adding more to that and referencing to it more from wikipedia.  You know, reference our advent of cooking article somewhere.  Stuff like that.
Title: Re: Urgent Message re raw foodism page on wikipedia
Post by: TylerDurden on January 16, 2009, 10:32:29 pm
I am actually surprised to see no new additions to rawpaleodiet.com.  When I turned the pretty-well established site over to Craig, and it was changed to a cms project, I thought for sure that there would be some good chunks to chew on in no time.  But nothing has been added by anyone since then.  It's the one place where a positive approach is guaranteed.  I'd recommend adding more to that and referencing to it more from wikipedia.  You know, reference our advent of cooking article somewhere.  Stuff like that.

I agree re adding more to that site, but I would prefer more people contributing, so as to add complexity. I have fixed a few grammar-details and have added a minor paragraph, here and there. I'll see about adding more - I'll stick to a target of 1 or 2 new things every fortnight.


. Searching for  "Wrangham cooking", for example, shows the rawpaleodiet.com article way up, so it's an excellent info-/resource site.I'm pretty much about to give up on Wikipedia - I've spent so much time trying to add useful (well-referenced) scientific info, but various thinly-disguised overly fanatical anti-rawists always try to sabotage my efforts. So, even though numerous attempts have been made to make it falsely seem, on the raw foodism wikipedia page, that Wrangham's views are a majority view, I can show the exact opposite, using more solid references than those wikipedia contributors.

As regards wikipedia, I will just have to wait until either the deletionists lose the battle against the inclusionists on Wikipedia, or  I will have to make an entry on sites such as google Knol which, unlike wikipedia, allow individual contributors to make it so that only they can edit a page. My first attempt didn't work re google knol as it was in faulty beta version, but I'll try again. In the meantime, I'll save an earlier version of the wikipedia page, for later use.