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Title: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 24, 2014, 11:59:06 pm
Putin the Truth Teller. Putin the Truth Seeker. The highest ranking current reigning government official "Conspiracy Theorist" in the world. You need to listen, you need to understand. This speech marks the official start of the reorganization of this world for a better order than this current mess we are in. If you want truth speech. This is it.

Putin at Valdai - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules (FULL VIDEO) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F9pQcqPdKo#ws)

It is long, it is loaded with truth speech.

A fresh speech with zero diplomatic bull shit. Direct to the point.

World leaders should speak like this.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: ys on October 25, 2014, 09:26:07 am
**** SHILL ALERT ****

Oh please.
I would not trust a single word of his.  He is a professional lair taught by the very best of KGB.  He knows how to manipulate millions of idiots.

But when it comes to governing, Putin is total imbecile.  In 15 years on the throne he hasn't done jack to divest economy from natural resources.  Under his watch Russia is approaching the fate of Soviet Union.  Russia has the richest natural resources, more than any other country.  Yet, the quality of life is miserable.  I've been to Russian countryside few years ago and it is even worse than countryside in the Philippines (been there few times as well).

Putin is either doing this on purpose or he is a complete moron.  Those who look up to Putin, I truly feel sorry for them.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 25, 2014, 11:18:17 am
Oh please.
I would not trust a single word of his.  He is a professional lair taught by the very best of KGB.  He knows how to manipulate millions of idiots.

But when it comes to governing, Putin is total imbecile.  In 15 years on the throne he hasn't done jack to divest economy from natural resources.  Under his watch Russia is approaching the fate of Soviet Union.  Russia has the richest natural resources, more than any other country.  Yet, the quality of life is miserable.  I've been to Russian countryside few years ago and it is even worse than countryside in the Philippines (been there few times as well).

Putin is either doing this on purpose or he is a complete moron.  Those who look up to Putin, I truly feel sorry for them.

Did you actually listen to the conference? No you never bothered.  You have a set of canned lines you copy and paste into this forum when politics are involved.

Please do not shoot from the hip.  More likely you sound so SHILL-like with your responses... "we have all the guns and the goons - so whatever anyone else says is stupid..."

For those who do not know... A SHILL = someone paid to post a point of view to disrupt respectful and logical exchanges of ideas in discussion forums.

Shills have no intellectual honesty because they are paid to disrupt idea exchanges.

In this example of your canned reply... the idea is to tell the viewer of this thread to totally ignore anything of that wonderful frank discussion conference... because your shilling says so.

My request for you YS is you do not SHILL into this forum.  Go out and SHILL in other forums.  Not this one.  We are raw paleo dieters here and are above the usual SHILL tactics.

Besides, the number of raw paleo dieters is very few.  WE are not worth your shilling job.

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Somehow Putin has matched my independent analysis of the world situation.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: Brad462 on October 25, 2014, 11:39:09 am
Wow, great speech.                                                   In this first short example, Cayce - in the 1930s - indicated the 'sins' of the key nations: America - has forgotten "in God we trust" England - conceit France - lust China - isolationism India - internalization of knowledge Italy - dissensions He said "Russia will become beacons of hope for the world." The statement about the 'conceit' (of the Zionist London Banksters?) in England is extraordinary. Just look at the Zionist conquest of Europe under the EU. The comment about America having forgotten "in God we Trust" is beyond eerily accurate. Remember, these statements were made in the 1930s 
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: JeuneKoq on October 25, 2014, 09:14:03 pm
Everyone needs to SHILL-out here...   ;)
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 27, 2014, 08:45:07 pm
Transcript of Putin's speech and an endorsement from American Paul Craig Roberts.

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/10/25/vladimir-putin-leader-moral-world-paul-craig-roberts/ (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/10/25/vladimir-putin-leader-moral-world-paul-craig-roberts/)
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: Brad462 on October 28, 2014, 03:42:46 am
Say what you will about Putin, but it is obvious that he loves his country.  I wish I could say the same about our fascist leader.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: Brad462 on October 28, 2014, 04:07:11 am
Lol @ calling ys a shill.  where can I get a job as a shill?  I could use the money.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 28, 2014, 06:31:47 am
Google this to find a shill job:

"how to get hired as a forum shill"
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 31, 2014, 12:46:35 pm
The Russian blogger chipstone summarized the most salient points from Putin speech as follows:

1. Russia will no longer play games and engage in back-room negotiations over trifles. But Russia is prepared for serious conversations and agreements, if these are conducive to collective security, are based on fairness and take into account the interests of each side.

2. All systems of global collective security now lie in ruins. There are no longer any international security guarantees at all. And the entity that destroyed them has a name: The United States of America.

3. The builders of the New World Order have failed, having built a sand castle. Whether or not a new world order of any sort is to be built is not just Russia's decision, but it is a decision that will not be made without Russia.

4. Russia favors a conservative approach to introducing innovations into the social order, but is not opposed to investigating and discussing such innovations, to see if introducing any of them might be justified.

5. Russia has no intention of going fishing in the murky waters created by America's ever-expanding “empire of chaos,” and has no interest in building a new empire of her own (this is unnecessary; Russia's challenges lie in developing her already vast territory). Neither is Russia willing to act as a savior of the world, as she had in the past.

6. Russia will not attempt to reformat the world in her own image, but neither will she allow anyone to reformat her in their image. Russia will not close herself off from the world, but anyone who tries to close her off from the world will be sure to reap a whirlwind.

7. Russia does not wish for the chaos to spread, does not want war, and has no intention of starting one. However, today Russia sees the outbreak of global war as almost inevitable, is prepared for it, and is continuing to prepare for it. Russia does not war—nor does she fear it.

8. Russia does not intend to take an active role in thwarting those who are still attempting to construct their New World Order—until their efforts start to impinge on Russia's key interests. Russia would prefer to stand by and watch them give themselves as many lumps as their poor heads can take. But those who manage to drag Russia into this process, through disregard for her interests, will be taught the true meaning of pain.

9. In her external, and, even more so, internal politics, Russia's power will rely not on the elites and their back-room dealing, but on the will of the people.

http://cluborlov.blogspot.fi/2014/10/putin-to-western-elites-play-time-is.html?m=1 (http://cluborlov.blogspot.fi/2014/10/putin-to-western-elites-play-time-is.html?m=1)
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: colorles on October 31, 2014, 06:28:35 pm
whether or not the so called New World Order has "failed" is up for grabs, i'd say quite on the contrary. but either way if it is failing, the concept of "if i go down, everybody goes down" is in effect, its simply how psychopaths work (although of course not everybody would go down, its just a means of "starting over" for some, at the expense of all the cattle so to speak)

and this would be a way to do it (coupled with concocted wars and conflicts and everything else that goes along with it):

THE EBOLA DECEPTION: VACCINE AGENDA FULLY EXPOSED [Part 1] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrjPZHK5U3g#ws)



on another note, sad thing an elder relative of mine is going to be in the hospital soon...and by a few different factors it is being heavily pushed on me and some other families members to get a flu vaccination. i've been vaccinated before, when i was younger and had virtually no consent (after all you need them to go to school), but i am against it with everything i am. but hey at least they are not mandatory (sarcasm)
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: cherimoya_kid on November 02, 2014, 03:23:18 am
Russia doesn't matter. Graphene batteries will be the end of Russian and Muslim relevance, and that will happen in the next 10 years. Oil is the only thing propping up those systems.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: sabertooth on November 02, 2014, 05:20:44 am
Putin may be one of the highest level world stage leaders who hasn't been completely neutered. He openly speaks out about the false flag shenanigans that are taboo for western statesmen to even mention. He advocates policy to protect the, security, health and well being of his people to the best of his capability. Who else on the world stage speaks openly about such issues? Much of what I have heard him speak of seems justified as long as its taken in context?

 Ask the US president what he thinks of the NWO, or what he thinks really happened to JFK, or who was really responsible for 911.  Let us ask our president why he feeds his own children organic foods, while rubberstamping GMO for all others who are too poor to afford unadulterated food?

Say what you will, about the interpretation of truth in these matters , Putins job is to play the role of a champion for the Russian people and he is someone who when called upon, will go directly to the people and tell it on the mountain, in ways that the liar class of western politicians are unable to. He is far from an Omnipotent dictator, taking into consideration that the corruption of the old line of oligarcs and the mob still rule over much of Russia, it is unrealistic to expect the entire territory to become a paragon of egalitarianism because of actions any government administration.

 He is somewhat limited in his effect over policy which would run counter to those of the corporate worlds'  economic supremacy, though in some matters he is taking a stand where few others will. He has band imports of U.S Meat and all GMOs because it is deemed unfit for his own people. http://www.globalresearch.ca/geopolitics-of-organic-food-russia-china-and-france-ban-gmos/5380228 (http://www.globalresearch.ca/geopolitics-of-organic-food-russia-china-and-france-ban-gmos/5380228)

U.S leaders act like cowards and puppets of higher powers, afraid to even address Putin's accusations of evil conduct in the name of creating a newer "new world order".
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 02, 2014, 05:40:59 am
Russia doesn't matter. Graphene batteries will be the end of Russian and Muslim relevance, and that will happen in the next 10 years. Oil is the only thing propping up those systems.

Super interesting.  Please post a link to these graphene batteries for newbies.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: cherimoya_kid on November 02, 2014, 11:39:02 am
http://www.graphenea.com/blogs/graphene-news/7915653-graphene-batteries-and-supercapacitors-to-power-our-world (http://www.graphenea.com/blogs/graphene-news/7915653-graphene-batteries-and-supercapacitors-to-power-our-world)

Super interesting.  Please post a link to these graphene batteries for newbies.

Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 02, 2014, 07:56:03 pm
That's amazing CK.  Thank you.  Might be good to speculate on the stocks of what companies are into these graphene batteries!  Must also prepare for that new economy with ubiquitous graphene technology.

Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: Iguana on November 03, 2014, 04:56:38 am
Don’t forget that a battery is nothing more than an energy storage system!
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: nummi on November 03, 2014, 06:37:35 am
Don’t forget that a battery is nothing more than an energy storage system!
I once thought the same, until I read stuff that explained that every electrical "generator", including batteries, is designed to make itself fail. That the entire science was built in such a way that if you follow the rules of that science and build something accordingly all you can get is a self-destroying energy source that needs to be "charged" with energy from outside it to restore it to its functioning condition, where it again begins gradually destroying itself. Energy comes through a dipole, from the vacuum/ether (it has many names), and obviously that's endless energy itself.

Considering everything I already know about our messed up world and the fact that all that is mainstream and backed by official institutions is to a large or total extent a lie, I have no doubt. They lie about medicine and ban good and natural things as if those are bad; say that material world is all there is; official schools are indoctrination and brainwashing centers; say that oil will run out when that's not true at all; they lie about everything... and if they don't lie then they will twist it or turn things upside down ("good into evil, evil into good"). Then why not electrical science as well? After all, energy converters that are designed to never stop working and to never need external input of energy because they tap into an infinite source we are all "swimming" in and dependent on anyway cannot give the "elite" power nor control.
Everything official is rigged and twisted.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 03, 2014, 03:10:23 pm
Considering everything I already know about our messed up world and the fact that all that is mainstream and backed by official institutions is to a large or total extent a lie, I have no doubt.

I would have to agree with you there.

What I do with medicine is to get in touch and learn about healing myself and get in touch with say people here in this forum.

We can also do that with inventors, get in touch with the real inventors themselves.  So many inventions out there by independent people.

Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: Iguana on November 03, 2014, 03:54:25 pm
Everything official is rigged and twisted.

So, it’s extremely simple. It’s useless to study, research, experiment and think to distinguish what’s right from what’s wrong: if it is official it’s false or twisted and if it is a conspiracy theory or something akin, it’s right. Very easy, indeed! 

What about Putin?
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 03, 2014, 04:20:37 pm
Some people think Putin is part of the conspiracy.  Some do not think so.

I like the point of view of Andrew Gause:

http://oneradionetwork.com/the-real-world-of-money/andrew-gause-real-world-money-votes-matters-counts-votes/ (http://oneradionetwork.com/the-real-world-of-money/andrew-gause-real-world-money-votes-matters-counts-votes/)

Listen to Andy, he tells about the US Empire's complete dominance in world affairs.  Some of those who think they are independent are actually not.  Those who do not go along like Libya's Gaddafi... his country, his life's work, his civilization was destroyed.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: TylerDurden on November 03, 2014, 08:42:12 pm

Listen to Andy, he tells about the US Empire's complete dominance in world affairs.  Some of those who think they are independent are actually not.  Those who do not go along like Libya's Gaddafi... his country, his life's work, his civilization was destroyed.

Err, actually, Gaddhafi DID go along with the West. He paid compensation for the Lockerbie bombing even though everyone knew it was Syria who was actually behind it and pledged to stop nonexistent attempts to build nuclear bombs/reactors and was friends with Tony Blair and Sarkozy before they turned and betrayed him.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 03, 2014, 09:45:56 pm
Gaddhafi's Libya went altruistic against the rules of the west:

- he housed all the Libyans
- he educated the Libyans
- he established a real democracy (he was just an inspirational figurehead by the end)
- he gave the Libyans the highest standard of living in Africa
- Libya began doing leadership role acts in Africa.
- Libya wanted to establish a gold dinar for itself and the entire African continent.

Which directly threatened the petrodollar.

What were the Libyans and Gaddhafi thinking? Or not thinking. That the empire had grown soft and altruistic?

No sir.  As Andy Gause above said, the velvet gloves are now OFF... feel our IRON FIST.

- the empire via the UN issued a "no fly zone" which was in reality translated to... bomb Libya to the stone age.
- On the first day of the "rebel uprising"... the "rebels" established a NEW Libyan Central Bank... aligned with the empire's central banking network.
- The empire carted away all of Libya's GOLD.
- Libya today is called a "failed state" ... meaning... destroyed.

----- Just pointing out the truth how I saw it happen to Libya.  If I were top dog politician of my country (Philippines), I would lobby for my country to be top dog lackey of the Empire, be #2 and displace Japan in lackey-ness... hopefully give us the wonderful job of printing money as well... woo hoo... ---------
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: ys on November 04, 2014, 02:37:52 am
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My request for you YS is you do not SHILL into this forum.  Go out and SHILL in other forums.  Not this one.  We are raw paleo dieters here and are above the usual SHILL tactics.

Are you are so clueless.
I've been following this man since 1998.  I know how he talks and what he does.  I have all the facts to prove his is master manipulator and professional liar.

Please take your shill comments back.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: ys on November 04, 2014, 02:44:59 am
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Say what you will about Putin, but it is obvious that he loves his country.

Yes, he loves it so much that in 15 years of his authoritarian rule Russia is still a typical 3rd world country when it comes to economic development.  So much for loving.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: ys on November 04, 2014, 03:38:25 am
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The Russian blogger chipstone summarized the most salient points from Putin speech as follows:

OMG, he is been saying the same thing for the last 15 years.
All of these points are nothing but talk.
$100 bet in 3 years Russia will be in much worse economic shape if average oil price stays around $80.
How's that for a shill? or maybe you would like to up the bet?

I'll just address this one as you think it is the most important.

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7. Russia does not wish for the chaos to spread, does not want war, and has no intention of starting one. However, today Russia sees the outbreak of global war as almost inevitable, is prepared for it, and is continuing to prepare for it. Russia does not war—nor does she fear it.

Putin's actions speak for themselves.  He WANTS chaos in all of post-soviet space because it is easier to control and manipulate. He bullies everyone, from Uzbekistan to Moldova.

He started the war in Ukraine because the can't accept another EU ally next to Russian border. Tiny Baltic states give him so much butt-hurt he can't even think about much bigger Ukraine.

Russia routinely assassinates political opponents abroad.

Putin is super envious about US dominance and the ability to print dollars almost limitlessly and still get away with it.  He is been complaining about it many times.  He acts as a SORE LOSER.

Putin is a professional crook and I do wish for him to stay on the throne indefinitely.  Nothing ruins the country better than professional crook with absolute power. 

People like Putin don't leave by themselves.  They either get carried out by their feet first or they run and hide in places like North Korea.  Another bet I'm willing to take, that's exactly what's going to happen in the next 10 years.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: Iguana on November 04, 2014, 03:45:45 am
I’s plain clear that neither GS nor you is a shill ! Shill is not an appropriate word in your cases.

I read the abstract provided by GS above (post  9) and also read part of the very long Putin’s speech. What is says is fine.

But it’s what he does which matters! Speaking is one thing, behaving honestly is another.

The Russian medias are not free under his rule and that’s not a good sign. See for example http://www.sfgate.com/news/world/article/Russia-s-top-radio-station-slapped-by-government-5863079.php (http://www.sfgate.com/news/world/article/Russia-s-top-radio-station-slapped-by-government-5863079.php)

The take over of Crimea was understandable. But arming the rebels in south-est Ukraine is not. I don’t mean that the Ukrainians and western powers are all white, they made some mistakes, but Russia acted malevolently in arming the separatists.

As a former trucker I was interested in the convoy of 260 Russian army trucks hastily painted in white to bring some 2000 tons of aid to SW Ukraine. Those were 40 tons, 5 axles semi-trailers which weight at the maximum 16 tons empty, leaving a payload of 24 tons per truck. It’s no rocket science to calculate that there was less then 8 tonnes of goods per truck and it immediately took me aback. But no journalist realized that until they saw at the Russia – Ukraine border that most trucks were almost empty. Only then they asked why and the Russians answered that the extra trucks were there as back ups in case some loaded ones broke down! This doesn’t make any sense at all but it was officially confirmed... I posted a comment on RIA Novosti article webpage, politely asking what is that absurd story. My comment appeared, but soon disappeared.

Still we don’t know who fired the missile which downed the Malaysian airliner, will see once it’s known…!   
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 04, 2014, 07:41:02 am
Iguana, the Empire funded and engineered  the destabilization and coup in Ukraine.  I watched that happen from the start. That girl Victoria Nuland on video and on cell phone barking out the deeds... reporting on the billions of $$$ of funding to make this happen. Google: "victoria nuland ukraine"

Then Sen McCain actually going on stage in the Maidan protests in Kiev egging on the protestors... blatant... no need to be discreet nowadays huh? Google: "mccain ukraine maidan"

I monitor various propaganda and exposes from various sides by instinct.  It's a training I had growing up in martial law years.  Dig at the truth all the time.  Never let your guard down.

YS, good that you made a more elaborate reply this time... better than the absolute shill post at the start of this thread... although unsubstantiated by any supporting reports... maybe you could post those reports backing up the allegations you just made... you should also address the points raised by Putin instead of calling for a total dismissal of everything he said (super shill tactics).

In the meantime, how does this MAP of some US Bases surrounding Russia and China make both countries feel?  Comfy to sleep at night?

(https://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/russia_wants_war_look_how_closely_they_put_country_to_our_military_bases.jpg)

Wake me up when Russia and China start surrounding the USA with opposing bases.

Truth is something that resonates well with us health practitioners.  Empire MSM is nothing but lies upon lies for the various nefarious purposes.

My bet is always on the Empire.  Reading Guns Germs and Steel... there can be only one... the only thing the losing resisting countries can do is cry out and report the truth.

The problem with provoking Russia this way is that the idiots in the Empire can only provoke so far that the Russians may actually just call their bluff and decide to go with MUTUALLY ASSURED DESTRUCTION... total nuclear war, launch everything... and all of us will be losers.

So if many more shills are reading this thread, me as the original poster merely posts truth the way I see it to prevent Nuclear War. Tell the warmongers in command to do it with a lot more finesse to prevent nuclear war.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: Iguana on November 04, 2014, 04:31:57 pm
Yes, GS, I already knew about the words of Victoria Nuland and stupid McCain in Kiev. I wrote that the West is not all white in this affair, that they and the Ukrainians did mistakes. The West has been secretly acting under cover in Ukraine, yes, but Russia too and perhaps even more and more brutally. What matters is that a vast majority of Ukrainians want to be in the Western world and no longer a part of a Russian Empire – the Soviet Union was a real  >D Empire, the USA is not.

I’ve been in Moldova and Ukraine in Odessa region 8 times with my truck in 1974-1975, so I’m rather interested about what’s happening there.

If Russia had continued on the course initiated by Gorbatchev, it would be a NATO member today. I still think it should be a part of NATO. Most Ukrainians and Russians are very nice, gentle and well educated people. There’s no reason why the Western powers and Russia could not work together, it even has to be so if we wanna be able to counter radical Islamism and terrorism. Unfortunately, there are heavy material interests in play.  :(     

Ys, you seem to be very knowledgeable about the former Soviet Union states and I appreciate your views. Have you been living somewhere there or in Eastern Europe? 
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: sabertooth on November 05, 2014, 04:05:35 am
Yes, Y.S. seems to know more about the dynamics of the former soviet union than anyone else here, and has the most absolutist certainty of Putins physiological make up, his motives, and even how his actions are going to effect the future of the entire Russian people.

I would sure like to know more about this in depth source of "factual information" regarding what is happening in the inner circle of the Russian federation. Because growing up in America all I ever knew about the soviet union was filtered through the mainstream media.

Although I have yet to see how Putins defiance of the west in anyway threatens the lives of people in the west, the "free Press"assures us that he is a bad man, who must be stopped from doing evil things.

Another point I wish to make is regarding the idea of how certain men whom have been entrusted with huge responsibilities, men who have been brought up under extreme situations, and endured great pressures, will reach an age where they become awakened. At which point the person the world may have known as simply some despotic ruler, or some former KGB agent, evolves into a different kind of being. Someone who has developed wisdom and maturity, someone who has earned the respect of his people. 

Many times in history when such a man of prestige rises to a higher calling that leads him to betray the established order, he is targeted for annihilation by the powers that be. JFK being a prime example. JFK was one with the liar class of ruling elite, he was brought into power by those who believed he could be controlled. Soon it became apparent that he would not be controlled and because he was so liked by the people it was decided that the only way to stop him was to kill him. In todays world such assassinations are not often the primary means by which the established powers deal with the awakened. They primarily use character assassination through the multi billion dollar unilateral mainstream media, which demonizes whomever its masters chose. So in the west potential JFKs are weeded out through a ultra corrupt democratic process. With the power of the controlled media, it is impossible for anyone to stand up to the system.

Putin is more than well aware of how multibillion dollar media empires are used to create a uni-polar image of the world, to deceive the people and distort information. He is wise to keep the negative influences of for profit media systems under strict control in Russia.

They do not need anymore revolutions, they need Evolution.

Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: TylerDurden on November 05, 2014, 02:31:36 pm
NATO should have been disbanded as soon as the Berlin Wall fell as its raison d'etre existed no longer.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: Iguana on November 05, 2014, 03:16:08 pm
Yes, perhaps.

But it could also have been kept for other purposes, and I think it's useful that air forces, navies and armies of the OCDE countries work together. It's a link between the member states and it could be a starting point on the path to a World Federation of nations.   

Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: TylerDurden on November 05, 2014, 05:04:46 pm
Yes, perhaps.

But it could also have been kept for other purposes, and I think it's useful that air forces, navies and armies of the OCDE countries work together. It's a link between the member states and it could be a starting point on the path to a World Federation of nations.   


H G Wells and others thought in terms of a world government. This would be a disaster. Far better to have countless multitudes of small regions/counties  all not bound to each other by useless, domineering laws.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: colorles on November 05, 2014, 11:13:24 pm
Iguana, the Empire funded and engineered  the destabilization and coup in Ukraine.  I watched that happen from the start. That girl Victoria Nuland on video and on cell phone barking out the deeds... reporting on the billions of $$$ of funding to make this happen. Google: "victoria nuland ukraine"

Then Sen McCain actually going on stage in the Maidan protests in Kiev egging on the protestors... blatant... no need to be discreet nowadays huh? Google: "mccain ukraine maidan"

I monitor various propaganda and exposes from various sides by instinct.  It's a training I had growing up in martial law years.  Dig at the truth all the time.  Never let your guard down.

YS, good that you made a more elaborate reply this time... better than the absolute shill post at the start of this thread... although unsubstantiated by any supporting reports... maybe you could post those reports backing up the allegations you just made... you should also address the points raised by Putin instead of calling for a total dismissal of everything he said (super shill tactics).

In the meantime, how does this MAP of some US Bases surrounding Russia and China make both countries feel?  Comfy to sleep at night?

(https://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/russia_wants_war_look_how_closely_they_put_country_to_our_military_bases.jpg)

Wake me up when Russia and China start surrounding the USA with opposing bases.

Truth is something that resonates well with us health practitioners.  Empire MSM is nothing but lies upon lies for the various nefarious purposes.

My bet is always on the Empire.  Reading Guns Germs and Steel... there can be only one... the only thing the losing resisting countries can do is cry out and report the truth.

The problem with provoking Russia this way is that the idiots in the Empire can only provoke so far that the Russians may actually just call their bluff and decide to go with MUTUALLY ASSURED DESTRUCTION... total nuclear war, launch everything... and all of us will be losers.

So if many more shills are reading this thread, me as the original poster merely posts truth the way I see it to prevent Nuclear War. Tell the warmongers in command to do it with a lot more finesse to prevent nuclear war.

if you also notice on the map, how Iran put its borders so close to NATO bases...

but to the bold, well that already happened in the 60's with the cuban missile crisis, and we all know how much america liked that...(and soviet actions there were only in response to NATO missiles in Turkey pointed at the USSR. the whole cold war really was the two factions vying for global leverage, meanwhile labeling the other the aggressor in their home medias)

bottom line: i wouldn't trust either faction, no more than anybody would trust the forces at work behind the western and eastern blocs throughout the previous century (and the actions and atrocities committed by both factions speak for themselves). that being said the israeli/al-saud/western coalition is the premier aggressor throughout the world in stirring up unrest and destabilization (and coincidently claiming innocence in there world media, and blaming it on everybody else...) at the moment, simply because they have the leverage to do so. should other factions gain such leverage, can't say for certain whether they would be any less sadistic and corrupt. it really depends on the moral character of the people involved, and of the people in general
Title: Re: Russia is NOT the Soviet Union
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 05, 2014, 11:22:09 pm
I have a good childhood to high school Filipino friend who studied college in the old Soviet Union, saw the collapse, saw Gorbachev rule, saw Yeltsin's rule... stayed in the Reborn Russia all that time... got married... to a Russian lady, had children... still lives in MOSCOW Russia... is in business in MOSCOW Russia... and comes to the Philippines every now and then for vacations.

So my good friend has been in The old Soviet Union now Russia since 1986 until today... 2014.

His views of Russia is much like this article.

Russia is NOT the Soviet Union
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2013/12/31/7-reasons-that-russia-is-not-the-soviet-union/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2013/12/31/7-reasons-that-russia-is-not-the-soviet-union/)

His views of Putin is that he is trying the best he can for Russia and he is their best so far since the collapse of the Soviet Union... Medvedev seems to have warmed up the same seat of power for Putin... to adhere to constitutional election limits. Putin put a stop to the rape of Russian resources by agent "businessmen" of the empire.

The Russian people, my friend tells me, are running away from the spectre of communism... turning Religious to Orthodox Christianity... are very spiritual people... nature lovers... all have dacha's... family farming plots so everyone can grow their own food... they don't need to consume vile gmo produce imports.

I analyse Russian government turned to Orthodox Christianity is championing this Religion because it wants to reverse the population decline of the Russian population through enacting Pro-Life, Pro-Family, Pro-Children protectionist laws... thus enacted laws against HOMOSEXUAL PROPAGANDA which is being championed by the USA EMPIRE and its minions.  Russia needs population PLANTING... not depopulation... this is why.

USA Empire is all about DEPOPULATION of the world as official STATE PURPOSE as described in NSSM 200.  This is why the very harmful "western medical / allopathic only medicine"... is its "officially sanctioned medicine"... pro VACCINE fake diseases lies sabotage exports, pro GMO, pro DESTRUCTION OF MARRIAGE / FEMINISM (you are on a marriage strike culture), pro HOMOSEXUAL PROPAGANDA "medical opinions, brainwashing miseducation of their own children" spreading misery wherever it goes.

I do hope with the Internet and more communications technologies we wake more people up and they DEMAND their empires do GOOD for a change... GOOD in every realization of us health nuts.

Ever wonder what it would be like if the official education and medical PARADIGM was RAW PALEO diet and lifestyle?  There would be an explosion in HEALTH and MENTAL HEALTH and SPIRITUAL HEALTH of a great MAJORITY OF PEOPLE.  Would that usher in a new golden age of TRUTH and GOOD RESULTS?  An age of ABUNDANCE? 

Dreaming is FREE.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: Iguana on November 06, 2014, 04:24:32 am
GS, I agree that Putin seems to be appreciated by most Russians. But he’s not at all in former Soviet republics where, as YS pointed out, he does his best to spread havoc. Concerning medicine and vaccinations, see “National Immunization Calendar of the Russian Federation” http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=11382&page=113 (http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=11382&page=113)

H G Wells and others thought in terms of a world government. This would be a disaster. Far better to have countless multitudes of small regions/counties  all not bound to each other by useless, domineering laws.
The terrible disaster that has continuously happened ever since the Neolithic is to have several completely independent states in competition, each one having different laws, customs, police, armies and being often antagonists, leading to conflicts and wars. There must be some global laws forbidding torture, destruction of primary forests and endangered species, production and use of the most poisonous pesticides, arms of massive destruction, rejection of highly toxic substances in the environment, etc. These laws must be tightly enforced somehow.   
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: sabertooth on November 06, 2014, 05:42:50 am
I weary of an all powerful overly litigious world government, that is under the complete control of our current monetary system. Perhaps if there wasn't the corrupting factors of money, coupled with manufactured ignorance of the masses propagated by self-interested power, the people of the free world could come together of their own free will and form a federation of nations that would guide  humanity into the age of Aquarius..... but until that day  when the power of love overcomes the love of power, we all should be concerned about this world governing police state apparatus being implemented.

 In some ways its already it feels like the world government is already here. Where I live our state government is financed through Chase bank, our electric company is owned by a German conglomerate, we have the federal government prohibiting the growing of industrial hemp. The common core curriculum being pushed on our school children was developed by the U.N. Our local Jails and courts have been taken over by multinational corporations who run everything for profit. Our local newspapers are a joke.

 There are just now a number of new taxes coming down from above. The mother of my children had her bank account seized just recently because of failure to pay medical co pays dating back from an 06 pregnancy. In the next year they will start seizing peoples money and property for failing to comply with the new fascist laws.  With the implementation of the ACA the government has licence to steal from every man woman and child in order to pay for the megalithic waste and corruption of a profit driven, government subsidized monopoly. Nothing is being done whatsoever to control the cost or improve actual quality of care, nor is any governmental organization doing anything to get at the root cause of the epidemic rise in illness. Million dollar cancer treatments that poison and kill people are now going to remain the standard course of treatment, and in the insuring years our nation will become irreversible bankrupt.

Paying taxes and having laws and regulations are not necessarily evil in itself. There are places in western Europe and else where who have a fairly well functioning socialist society, but as it is here in my part of the world it seems that "we the people" are getting a very poor return for the megalithic amounts of money given over to our government and corporate rulers.

So in short hell no, I am not wanting to go along with the move towards a one world government..... perhaps the sentiments of people like Putin, wither genuine or manufactured; pander to a broader community of people who also share the view that a multipolar world made up of many sovereign nations who are inclusive and accepting of the rights of others,  is a much more sane direction for the people of the world to take.   

Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: TylerDurden on November 06, 2014, 07:23:44 am
The terrible disaster that has continuously happened ever since the Neolithic is to have several completely independent states in competition, each one having different laws, customs, police, armies and being often antagonists, leading to conflicts and wars. There must be some global laws forbidding torture, destruction of primary forests and endangered species, production and use of the most poisonous pesticides, arms of massive destruction, rejection of highly toxic substances in the environment, etc. These laws must be tightly enforced somehow. 
You are being highly selective in selecting only the good bits that the world government might possibly produce. Imposing a  general, worldwide standard of laws would, of necessity, wipe out many  human cultures and societies that depend on a distinct "lack of law" to survive. Plus, I doubt that the world would become suddenly environmentally-friendly - look at some ghastly laws recently which have allowed big companies to successfully sue  actual governments which try to protect their environment:-

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/us-firms-could-make-billions-from-uk-via-secret-tribunals-9785924.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/us-firms-could-make-billions-from-uk-via-secret-tribunals-9785924.html)

My view is that replacing all money with barter would level things to some extent without forcing through some horrific, 1984-style ultracommunist world government.

Hmm, of course, if every country in the world were forced to have the same freedom of government, bank secrecy and neutrality as(the old) Switzerland re countless referendums etc., with, say, the same immigration policy of the old Soviet Union and  the same investment in research and development as in (the old) United States, the world might well progress somewhat. Hmm, then again, adopting, worldwide,  the same political system of ancient Athens in c.450BC would be even better.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 06, 2014, 02:35:28 pm
Another high school friend and fellow dungeons and dragon co-player, same batch mate as my now Russian migrant friend, used to be an official envoy in the Philippine Embassy in Russia and was assigned there for some 4 years until 2013... lots of official Philippine - Russian stuff.  He had a great time in Russia.  He is now assigned to the Philippine embassy in South Korea.

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About the Ukraine, Russia feels it is its back door.  It's like when the USA reacted to the Cuban Missile Crisis.  Think about that kind of proximity.

Ethnic Russians were threatened when after the coup in Kiev the new Ukrainian masters made new laws marginalizing the Russian language which is the language of ethnic Russians living in east Ukraine.

So there is some natural ethnic tension in Ukraine, and that will cause an obvious unstoppable split of that country.

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Webster Tarpley predicted way back in 2008 before Obama was elected what Obama will be doing in his reign:

- Switch the USA guns from being pointed at Iran to Russia and China.

View Tarpley's video with pleasure.

Webster Tarpley Predicted Confrontation With Russia Back In 2008 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTKaa6o6IaA#ws)

Webster G. Tarpley | The Men Behind Obama (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OygG10gaHTg#ws)

Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: Iguana on November 06, 2014, 03:49:13 pm
You are being highly selective in selecting only the good bits that the world government might possibly produce. Imposing a  general, worldwide standard of laws would, of necessity, wipe out many  human cultures and societies that depend on a distinct "lack of law" to survive. My view is that replacing all money with barter would level things to some extent without forcing through some horrific, 1984-style ultracommunist world government.

I wrote about what would be ideal, but of course it won’t happen this way! These “human cultures and societies that depend on a distinct "lack of law" to survive” would not be concerned with the kind of global laws I suggested.

Barter? How could it work in our modern world? What would you trade against a car, for example? A room in your house or 750 kg of meat? Against an Airbus A 380? Money is a very convenient way to assess the value of something and a fluid means to buy or sale whatever you want without endless pondering and debate. Would anyone work in a chocolate factory that pays its worker with a ton of chocolate every month?

Of course, if a Paleo way of life could be reinstated worldwide, then money would become useless as there would no longer be any private property!     

About the Ukraine, Russia feels it is its back door.  It's like when the USA reacted to the Cuban Missile Crisis. Think about that kind of proximity.

Ethnic Russians were threatened when after the coup in Kiev the new Ukrainian masters made new laws marginalizing the Russian language which is the language of ethnic Russians living in east Ukraine.

So there is some natural ethnic tension in Ukraine, and that will cause an obvious unstoppable split of that country.

Yes, that’s true. Yet Putin put oil on the fire.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: sabertooth on November 07, 2014, 06:47:54 am
I wrote about what would be ideal, but of course it won’t happen this way! These “human cultures and societies that depend on a distinct "lack of law" to survive” would not be concerned with the kind of global laws I suggested.



When framing the Ideal we may assume as we wish , but should avoid impossibilities. Ideally a world government would leave alone indigenous people who live lightly off the land, and would not force non industrial peoples to be subject to their rules, laws and taxes, but in reality this would not be the case. The great foundations who are prime for creating such a world government, are the same organizations responsible for Agenda 21, and codex, which prohibit people from being able to live off the grid.

 Perhaps as in Huxley's brave new world, the world controllers allowed for savage reservation where people were free to live in relative freedom from an oppressive world government.

In reality Land management bureaucracy would make it impossible for the majority of people to opt out of a system of world governance, by simply refusing to grant permits to people to live in certain areas, grow thier own food or graze livestock unless they could pay steep taxes(as in the case of Cliven Bundy) Such tyranny is what drove Geronimo off the reservation, when he was denied the right to raise cattle.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: Iguana on November 07, 2014, 08:03:51 am
When framing the Ideal we may assume as we wish , but should avoid impossibilities.
Approaching an ideal is not impossible! And if we don’t figure out what the ideal is or could be, we can’t get closer to it!

You base your reasoning on what usually (but not always today) happened in this insane civilization. We shouldn’t assume it’s impossible to get out of the vicious circle started with cooking, agriculture, private property and materialism. Otherwise, it would be impossible to eat raw-paleo, in the first place.   
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 07, 2014, 10:05:53 am
Iguana, yes, that is exactly what Sabertooth meant.  You and he agree.

Must be some English translation misunderstanding.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: Iguana on November 07, 2014, 02:50:47 pm
Sorry if I misunderstood Sabertooth's post!
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: sabertooth on November 08, 2014, 08:12:33 am
For the most part we seem to be in agreement, although I must admit that I am a bit conflicted on many of these issues, so its often difficult for me to even agree with myself from one day to the next, seeing that the human mind is constantly changing, and misunderstandings are inevitable .

On the one hand I view the manifestations of law as a troubling reflection of the state of human affairs, though Bad laws are not the primary cause of the troubles of the world. In this view it is a waist of time to focus on challenging the litigious demon,(which appears to lord over the world) as a primary means of achieving an Ideal. Instead truth,liberty and justice must be lived, breathed and loved into the world, as it is in the moment, for it to have any real value. So it is necessary to manifest your dreams in the way you interact with those people who share your environment. This optimistic view relies heavily in a faith in human kind, and could be viewed as a polyanna dream, though in such dreams one can find much value.

On the other hand I am often struck by the idea that perhaps human society has become so unbalanced that laws are necessary to hammer out the details and compromises between the catechisms of the human multitude. In this view the individual is on there own in a world dominated by others whom are either oblivious of, or hostile to each others ideals and dreams. One then becomes at the mercy of the powers that be in order to provide a base level of safety and protection from a cannibalistic swarm of prevailing and persistent ignorance. In this pessimistic world, Simply to be able to hold on to any humanity while eeking out a decent existence, without stomping on your fellow humans or destroying the earth, is all one could hope for.

There is not a day that goes by that either points of view do not compete for possession of my soul, devil in one ear and an angel in the other. Which wolf ultimately wins is the one you feed, though both have served me well on the journey. Wherever we may roam a certain calling beckons one forever onward... Are these words in my mind just a shout in the dark, warning of danger round the bend ? or is it the harmonious voice of synchronicity ushering in the next phase of the spirit of life? Some questions have inexpressible answers.....

Whether anyone knows for sure whats going on in the world, our own heads, or the heads of the leaders of our governments, is only of as much importance as we make it to be. This is why I am such an advocate for the truth movement. Not so much concerned with what occurs behind the scenes( conspiracy), but more interested in the truth of our own individual existence and how it relates to the world in ways that cannot be controlled, dominated or governed over. To encourage others to become missionaries for a better humanity, and minister to people at an individual level without putting on uniforms, titles, or airs of superiority.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: Iguana on November 09, 2014, 03:03:37 am
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Gorbachev warns of new cold war threat as Berlin marks fall of wall (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/08/gorbachev-cold-war-threat-berlin-wall-25th-anniversary)

As Berliners watch 8,000 balloons being released into the night sky this evening, old divisions between east and west will symbolically vanish into thin air with them. Yet the runup to the festivities has already served up plenty of reminders that, 25 years after the fall of the wall that divided the city for three decades, the scars of history are hurting more than ever.

Speaking at a symposium near the Brandenburg Gate yesterday morning, former Soviet president Mikhail Gorbachev warned that the world was “on the brink of a new cold war” and strongly criticised the west for having sown the seeds of the current crisis by mishandling the fallout from the collapse of the iron curtain.

“Instead of building new mechanisms and institutions of European security and pursuing a major demilitarisation of European politics … the west, and particularly the United States, declared victory in the cold war,” said the man behind the Soviet Union’s glasnost and perestroika reforms.

Euphoria and triumphalism went to the heads of western leaders. Taking advantage of Russia’s weakening and the lack of a counterweight, they claimed monopoly leadership and domination in the world.”

The enlargement of Nato, Kosovo, missile defence plans and wars in the Middle East had led to a “collapse of trust”, said Gorbachev, now 83. “To put it metaphorically, a blister has now turned into a bloody, festering wound.”

Previously an outspoken critic of Vladimir Putin, Gorbachev backed the current Russian president’s stance over Ukraine, urging western leaders to “consider carefully” Putin’s recent remarks at the Valdai forum : “Despite the harshness of his criticism of the west, and of the United States in particular, I see in his speech a desire to find a way to lower tensions and ultimately to build a new basis for partnership.”

Such strong words of criticism, voiced by the man still affectionately known as “Gorbi” to many in Germany, came at the end of a week which has seen the value of the rouble tumbling dramatically as a result of western sanctions.
(...)


Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 09, 2014, 09:05:20 am
How I analyse the Russian official speeches...

- They are a bunch of truthers / truth seekers.  They know the truth about how corrupt / dishonest / assholic the western empire powers that be are...

- Yet they cling to the notion that by presenting TRUTH to the masses of the American People, the American People must surely rise up to the occasion and hang their own corrupt / dishonest / assholic powers that be.

Which is I think their folly because...

- You can never wake that many people up enough in a country so vaccinated, so drugged at their water and gmo junk food and MSM and monetary dependence on EBT cards.

- Even if you wake them up, most are afraid to make their move.

- TPTB know the truther game are are doing everything they can to suppress the truthers.

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The Russian truth movement seems "surprised" when they keep spilling out the truths and the American public does not seem to take any action to switch their government ways to the "good side".

Seems the alleged time traveller John Titor was right after all... he said in 2000 / 2001 that in 2015 the Russians will launch a nuclear strike against the USA... ww3 nuclear war...

I never thought 10 years ago it would come to this...  but this is the closest we are to nuclear war in recent memory.

Who is John Titor? http://www.johntitor.com/ (http://www.johntitor.com/)

http://topinfopost.com/2014/09/07/14-years-ago-a-time-traveler-warned-us-of-a-nuclear-war-with-russia-in-2015 (http://topinfopost.com/2014/09/07/14-years-ago-a-time-traveler-warned-us-of-a-nuclear-war-with-russia-in-2015)

Note how in that speech Putin says they are not disarming their nuclear weapons.  The precision targeting weapons of the western empire are so advanced these days that the only Russian defense are their old nuclear weapons of mass destruction.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: Iguana on November 09, 2014, 07:26:27 pm
Seems the alleged time traveller John Titor was right after all... he said in 2000 / 2001 that in 2015 the Russians will launch a nuclear strike against the USA... ww3 nuclear war...

Who is John Titor? http://www.johntitor.com/ (http://www.johntitor.com/)

http://topinfopost.com/2014/09/07/14-years-ago-a-time-traveler-warned-us-of-a-nuclear-war-with-russia-in-2015 (http://topinfopost.com/2014/09/07/14-years-ago-a-time-traveler-warned-us-of-a-nuclear-war-with-russia-in-2015)
So, what’s your point in having many children since they will be annihilated along with all of us in the following nuclear winter, eh?

According to Nostradamus the end of our world should have happened in1999. Thereafter it should have been in 2012 according to the Mayas. We are nevertheless in 2014 (how can it be real? ;D) and now you found a Mr. Titor who goes  forth and back in time and says 2015…
For God’s sake, we are doomed…  :(

Edwin, please... 
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: TylerDurden on November 09, 2014, 08:48:44 pm
As a daydreaming prepubescent boy and Science Fiction  aficionado, I used to fondly dream of the forthcoming possibility of a nuclear war. Then Gorbachov and Reagan spoilt things with their blasted disarmament talks.  I would give anything for  WW3  as it would mean a  real struggle for survival and a far more interesting life than any human has now. I mean, if you lot are honest, we currently live in flats/appartments/houses which are nothing more than glorified zoocages with cities being largely lifeless as regards plants there.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: nummi on November 09, 2014, 09:07:11 pm
Thereafter it should have been in 2012 according to the Mayas.
Mayans never said or thought of "2012" as the "end of the world". It was always known to them as the end of an old cycle and the beginning of a new one. So the Mayan "2012" is not and never has been an example among the end of the world "prophecies".
Title: You guys (GS and TD) are… funny!
Post by: Iguana on November 09, 2014, 10:14:56 pm
I would give anything for  WW3  as it would mean a  real struggle for survival and a far more interesting life than any human has now.
LOL! You guys (GS and TD) are… funny, it’s the least that can be said!

I mean, if you lot are honest, we currently live in flats/appartments/houses which are nothing more than glorified zoocages with cities being largely lifeless as regards plants there.
So, a global nuclear war would be a welcome end of this misery, according to you!

Mayans never said or thought of "2012" as the "end of the world". It was always known to them as the end of an old cycle and the beginning of a new one. So the Mayan "2012" is not and never has been an example among the end of the world "prophecies".
Yes, but still it was often supposed to predict a kind of end of the world as we know it. Nothing of that kind happened, AFAIK.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: TylerDurden on November 10, 2014, 01:55:14 am
So, a global nuclear war would be a welcome end of this misery, according to you!
Just imagine if you were one of the few humans left alive after a nuclear war. You would, for example,  experience the thrill of having to hunt for wild game rather than just eating a lifeless piece of raw flesh every so often. As one of the few males left alive, you would have the opportunity of becoming one of a very few ancestors of  all future human generations. You would have the excitement of rebuilding civilisation, hopefully a better one than before, with each human being in charge of countless square kilometres of land, if they can hold it. In short, you would have to experience all over again all sorts of things that you now take too much for granted as well as experience all sorts of things  which, in this modern hell, we have forgotten the value of.

"The Ego and Its Own (1844)[edit]
Max Stirner (1844) The Ego and Its Own. Translations: Tucker, New York 1907; S. Byington, trans. (1913); Cambridge 1995; Dover 2005
What is not supposed to be my concern! First and foremost, the Good Cause, then God's cause, the cause of mankind, of truth, of freedom, of humanity, of justice; further, the cause of my people, my prince, my fatherland; finally, even the cause of Mind, and a thousand other causes. Only my cause is never to be my concern. "Shame on the egoist who thinks only of himself!"
Cambridge 1995, p. 5
I have no need to take up each thing that wants to throw its cause on us and show that it is occupied only with itself, not with us, only with its good, not with ours. Look at the rest for yourselves. Do truth, freedom, humanity, justice, desire anything else than that you grow enthusiastic and serve them?
Cambridge 1995, p. 6
The divine is God's concern; the human, man's. My concern is neither the divine nor the human, not the true, good, just, free, etc., but solely what is mine, and it is not a general one, but is — unique, as I am unique. Nothing is more to me than myself!
Cambridge 1995, p. 7"
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 10, 2014, 09:30:04 am
Just imagine if you were one of the few humans left alive after a nuclear war. You would, for example,  experience the thrill of having to hunt for wild game rather than just eating a lifeless piece of raw flesh every so often. As one of the few males left alive, you would have the opportunity of becoming one of a very few ancestors of  all future human generations. You would have the excitement of rebuilding civilisation, hopefully a better one than before, with each human being in charge of countless square kilometres of land, if they can hold it. In short, you would have to experience all over again all sorts of things that you now take too much for granted as well as experience all sorts of things  which, in this modern hell, we have forgotten the value of.

So Tyler,  how many offspring you have right now that could partake in this chance of surviving the nuclear holocaust to come?

You can't "win" if you don't place your bets.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: sabertooth on November 10, 2014, 11:18:14 am
I like how the french farmers are dealing with bullshit laws.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vk63XAknSg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vk63XAknSg)
Title: TD and GS, are you... ... ?
Post by: Iguana on November 10, 2014, 04:02:52 pm
So Tyler,  how many offspring you have right now that could partake in this chance of surviving the nuclear holocaust to come?
You can't "win" if you don't place your bets.

Both of you leave me speechless. Are you in your right mind?
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: Projectile Vomit on November 10, 2014, 11:05:40 pm
I like how the french farmers are dealing with bullshit laws.

They weren't protesting 'bullshit laws'. They were protesting to get more agricultural subsidies. Unless France's unwillingness to shower its farmers with subsidies represents a 'bullshit law' in your eyes.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: Iguana on November 10, 2014, 11:24:18 pm
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'Highly disturbing' Russian military strategy causing dangerous military encounters - report
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/highly-disturbing-russian-military-strategy-causing-dangerous-military-encounters--report-9850549.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/highly-disturbing-russian-military-strategy-causing-dangerous-military-encounters--report-9850549.html)
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Three incidents were classified “high-risk”, including a narrowly avoided collision between a civilian Scandinavian Airlines flight taking off from Copenhagen on 3 March and a Russian plane.

The Boeing 737, heading to Rome with 132 passengers on board, came within 90 metres of a Russian reconnaissance aircraft which was not transmitting its position.

Read more: RAF Typhoons scrambled to intercept Russian bomber
RUSSIAN FIGHTER JET PASSES 'WITHIN FEET' OF SWEDISH PLANE

Another incident chronicled in the report saw Russian bomber aircraft practicing what researchers claimed were simulated cruise missile strikes against the US in the Labrador Sea, near Canada, in September

A group of aviation enthusiasts, EGXCinfo, posted an audio clip on their Twitter account, which they said was of an RAF pilot issuing a threat to open fire unless the then unidentified plane made contact.

“I am instructed by Her Majesty's Government of the United Kingdom to warn you that if you do not respond immediately to my orders, you will be shot down,” the voice on the recording says.

The disturbances have not been confined to encounters between planes – Russian aircraft have reportedly made provocative “passes” of American and Canadian warships.
The original report is here http://www.europeanleadershipnetwork.org/dangerous-brinkmanship-close-military-encounters-between-russia-and-the-west-in-2014_2101.html (http://www.europeanleadershipnetwork.org/dangerous-brinkmanship-close-military-encounters-between-russia-and-the-west-in-2014_2101.html)

I have a deep respect for Gorbachev and what he says. This sad situation was ignited by our stupid Western politicians, but on the other hand I don't see Putin as a trust-able truth teller. 

About the French farmers, I haven't been interested in their action, but their nice big tractors are mostly or entirely paid by subsidies. 
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: JeuneKoq on November 10, 2014, 11:44:18 pm
the guy standing up in the first nuclear-winter picture actually looks a bit like Tyler Durden, from the "Fight Club" movie  :D

Coincidence?... I think not!! >D
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 11, 2014, 12:03:39 am
Iguana, historically and prehistorically, life on earth has its ups and downs. None of us here know for sure if there is going to be nuclear war.  I post in various forums to help try to prevent it.  Maybe some shills will have a conscience and tell their masters to not to go to war.

All I want to do is to be human and LIVE my life the way nature meant me to... and fucking for real is  just part of real human life... which results in children.

I just adore my kids... I live for them... must be the darned natural programming stuck in my head... sticking my middle finger at the NWO and their contraceptive agenda.  To try to live a "natural" sex life is now abhorrent to the NWO.

Oh and btw, taking care of kids and raising them takes a whole lot more effort and commitment than just real sex.  I'm hard wired by my dna programming to say awesome, bring on the children, bring on the grand children... live on.

I know some time ago the greeting "May your Tribe Increase"... used to be looked upon as something good.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: JeuneKoq on November 11, 2014, 12:11:45 am
My eyes hurts a bit from the screen so I won't write a long post today.

My advise: don't wait for the potential nuclear war to go out and do the things you like. It might never happen. If you want to go outside and hunt for the freshest game, act like Andrew Ucles and just do it!
Most of the time, it's that easy!

Get some survival classes and wild edible foraging classes, if you're really into the independent living concept. And if you don't want to do it alone, know that there are tons of people and communities on this planet which lifestyle rotate around these main lines. And many more who would like to become part of this.

If your problem is that you're waiting for an exterior event to get you out of your comfort zone, then the problem most likely comes from within (look who's talking  :P, but I'm working on it)
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: Iguana on November 11, 2014, 12:37:22 am
JK, LOL for the pic! Yes, you’re right, don’t wait for an external event to take you chance to live what you long for, and hoping for a nuclear war to bring something desirable is pure madness — sorry TD, I can’t refrain to tell it. Fortunately no one of our leaders shares your view and I hope everyone responsible, including military commanders and air force pilots will show enough coolness to avoid igniting a conflict.   

Thanks for your kind answer, GS. The problem I see in your views is that overpopulation is a source of scarcity, misery, environmental damages, conflicts and wars. 

Wasn't it better in 1992 when two TU95 "Bear" and their refueling tanker paid a courtesy visit to Louisiana? (a Wikipedia picture causing tears from my eyes) 
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 11, 2014, 01:00:27 am
Thanks for your kind answer, GS. The problem I see in your views is that overpopulation is a source of scarcity, misery, environmental damages, conflicts and wars. 

Iguana, I'm just 1 person who has a thing for naturally reproducing... and I'm no champion reproducer yet... just "normal".  Most members here I'm betting have a lot less or do not have any children so it all balances out.

And you exhibit the very knee jerk reaction the NWO masters want... you find someone who loves children... and the reflexive impulse is to think "overpopulation".  Yes, I know during your time in the 1960s and the 1970s that was all the rage about overpopulation.  So the NWO masters did their depopulation thing and they SUCCEEDED. 

It is now 2014.  Not 1960.

Well the depopulation century is next, and unlike Tyler fantasizing on nuclear war, I fantasize about inheriting this earth with my descendants since a good number of other people are voluntarily culling themselves to extinction.

Have you seen the aging population pyramids?  The drop in fertility rates globally?

Did you get the memo that Europe will be an Islamic continent in 50 years because the seculars choose to die out?

Did you see the movie Demographic Winter?

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I'm doing everything I can to reverse the depopulation scam brainwashing and sabotage so that  I can have a future. 

-  I learned about real health and healing and this raw paleo diet (thank you all), away from the western medical scam
- I am learning about water birthing, pregnancy care, breast feeding, no vaccinations - not the medical scam again
- I practice commitment to the children and their mothers like they used to in the good old days.
- I enrolled the children in a Waldorf School
- And I'm roaming the provinces to find suitable wives for my sons.  And teach them how to get girls.
- And I'll be roaming around looking for suitable husbands for my daughters.
- I'm looking to teach my children my IT business craft, maybe they can be in business themselves and make a living early.

I'd say I'm just a committed FATHER.  Nothing to be alarmed at regarding the "overpopulation scare"
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: JeuneKoq on November 11, 2014, 01:09:36 am
The problem I see in your views is that overpopulation is a source of scarcity, misery, environmental damages, conflicts and wars. 
That's true, I mean back before the rise of modern societies, one was able to reproduce so much because there existed a natural balance between birth rate and death rate before the age of procreation. So there always was a "just enough" quota of living beings (in this case, humans) inside an ecosystem.

Nowadays, thanks to scientific advancement and the suppression of all natural predator to man (except certain epidemic diseases, which most likely work as a way to regulate the global population naturally. It's the case for some animals such as deers or rabbits, who die of epidemic diseases because their natural predators have been removed) people are now able to enjoy the company of many children of their own, who will live on to produce countless offspring themselves.
This, of course, is completely out of balance with the natural order of Life, and thus Life must find a way to return to a viable situation, or else the entire system will be compromised. Just like that time where those O2 producing bacteria threatened the whole of existence on this planet.

Life has many ways to deal with such problems, may it be "exterior" to the antagonist, such as natural disasters, climate change, diseases etc... or within the antagonist: sudden collective desire for war, conscious or unconscious biocidal actions/creations (GMO's, pesticides, vaccines, you know the drill).

As for the latter, I think very few people are "conscious" of the damage they make, most are just unconsciously blind to the final outcome. My cousin started her biology studies so she can one day make "superfoods" (GMO's), but I'm pretty sure she'll be  -or already is- in denial of all that's wrong with them. I haven't discussed it with her, so I don't know her stand on the matter.

However, us who do our possible, and have the knowledge and skills to avoid the bad stuff, we might indeed be the future inheritors of this planet. How I see things right now, the GMO/pesticide/vaccin/weapon companies and communities are the necessary Shiva of this earth. The destructive (cleaning, I might dare) forces of life. Then there's the ignorant, the people who are not intuitively driven to their own salvation. They consume what is sold to them and happily do so. Both them, and probably the Shiva minds, will someday disappear, as the result of their own, unconscious actions, way of life.

It is no coincidence that you where one day brought to this diet, this lifestyle. Intuitively you where brought to it, destiny brought you to it. I feel you and I, we are the souls that will inherit this earth in the end.
No one is wrong in their path, I must note. Shiva, Insensible, Clear Minded.

Maybe it sounds crazy, extreme, maybe I'll change my mind on this, but this is how I feel things are being played right now.


Some clearing up and additional details about the idea I posted:



I feel there's some clearing-up to be done about my idea.
I think it was wrong to split people into three definite groups (Shiva, Insensible, Clear-minded).

It may seem as if I was saying: "from this day on, every paleo dieter will live on to be heir of this planet. And all other, be it the naive sheep waiting to get slaughtered, or the evil wolf who's only purpose is to murder in mass, will unconsciously commit suicide. And it will all happen in the next 50 years, max".

I'm aware Life is not that black and white. It's much more colorful than that. Life is not static, absolute: it is moving, fluid, constantly changing. Every living being have a purpose.

The shift will be gradual. Perhaps centuries long.

Some Shiva might become aware of the direction they're taking and turn to a healthier lifestyle.
Some "ignorant" people today may later give birth to enlightened individuals.
Some enlightened may turn back to their old ways, or on the contrary turn knowledgeable some ignorants, in a conscious way or not.
The list of possibilities, associations, is endless.
All this will eventually lead to renewed balance.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: Iguana on November 11, 2014, 01:19:24 am
GS, I also love kids, but didn't want more than one, not because I thought it will change the destiny of the planet but because rising a child is big responsibility and load in the western countries. Anyway the good thing for my son is he won't have to share our inheritance with several brothers and sisters!  ;)

We already have extensively talked about the population topic in a specific thread and yes, I saw all the curves and graphs you posted.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: Brad462 on November 11, 2014, 09:06:05 am
God, this talk about about nuclear war is depressing and unproductive.  Why worry about things you have no control over?                                               Only after disaster can we be resurrected. It's only after you've lost everything that you're free to do anything. Nothing is static, everything is evolving, everything is falling apart. Chuck Palahniuk , Fight Club 
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: sabertooth on November 11, 2014, 09:36:53 am
They weren't protesting 'bullshit laws'. They were protesting to get more agricultural subsidies. Unless France's unwillingness to shower its farmers with subsidies represents a 'bullshit law' in your eyes.

Eric Please post links, that back up your POV.

My Understanding was that new EU regulations were taxing the farmers at higher rates, while allowing for the import of lower quality foods , which were subsidized; these regulations are making it impossible for local french farmers to compete in the " free Market", and it is also flooding the market with lower quality foods.

The issue is that the new regulations are going to guarantee that small farms will be undercut by outside producers, and the people are protesting for the right to produce better quality food. Even if it is more expensive to produce, it is well worth the cost. In the eyes of many french people, quality food is something that is worth subsidizing.( The EU and austerity measures be damned)

This story should point out how governmental subsidy policy seems to always work in favor of those who produce cheaper quality foods....which is freaking retarded, because the overall cost of health care for populations eating the cheaper chemical fertilized, and pesticide laden foods is much higher in the long run.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: sabertooth on November 11, 2014, 10:06:31 am
https://munchies.vice.com/articles/feeling-shat-upon-by-regulations-french-farmers-dumped-manure-on-government-buildings
The Bullshit laws I was referring to, was regarding an EU directive which limits the amount of manure farmers are allowed to use,  and because farmers had more shit than they were aloud too, they found a creative way to use it.

 I thought it was funny, even if the issues behind the protest are a bit more complicated.

Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: Brad462 on November 11, 2014, 11:23:23 am
Putin is part of the beast system imo.  Don't trust him just because he speaks nice words; he is a freemason after all.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 11, 2014, 11:32:11 am
Putin is part of the beast system imo.  Don't trust him just because he speaks nice words; he is a freemason after all.

Possible.

Our Philippine national hero, Jose Rizal was a Freemason and he was shot by firing squad by our Spanish rulers in the 1890s.

http://thelifeandworksofrizal.blogspot.com/2011/12/jose-rizal-freemason.html (http://thelifeandworksofrizal.blogspot.com/2011/12/jose-rizal-freemason.html)
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: sabertooth on November 12, 2014, 01:20:25 am
So is there anybody who holds positions of leadership in the emerging world order that can be trusted?

Is every legitimate movement initiated by the free people of earth manipulated by the powerful in order to perpetuate a kind of elitism, in which the elites have staged debates and play out a mock dialog, in order to pander to the masses, while the real deals always are made under cover?

Are there times in which those who are a part of the world stage break out of character to pursue a hire calling?

As the audience for the greatest show in history it is up to us to chose whom we admire and whom we should boo off of stage. Sometimes its easy to forget that it is the public opinion which allows public figures to either persist or perish. It is our duty to make sure that our own opinions are well informed and consistent with our own reality, or else we can easily become part of the problem we are attempting to resolve, by delegating responsibility to those with hidden agendas issuing out false promises.



Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: Brad462 on November 12, 2014, 03:51:01 pm
Apparently russian warships are headed to australia... wtf?                 https://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/25496667/russian-warships-bearing-down-on-australia/
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: Brad462 on December 02, 2014, 10:29:08 am
BREAKING!!! NATO announces deterrent force to contain Russia!!! NATO announces deterrent force to contain Russia NATO Secretary General Jens Stollenberg said a full force would be ready by 2016. By Ed Adamczyk Follow @adamczyk_ed Contact the Author | Dec. 1, 2014 NATO will have an "interim spearhead" force in place by early 2015 to deter what its new Secretary General called Russia's "aggressive behavior." Speaking at a press conference prior to a meeting of NATO foreign ministers in Brussels this week, Secretary General Jens Stollenberg said Russia continues to violate international law in providing pro-Russian rebels in Ukraine with goods and weapons. By 2016, he added, NATO will have a fully-equipped "spearhead" in place which could be deployed, to Baltic states as an example, to "deter and defend" in a crisis.  http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2014/12/01/NATO-announces-deterrent-force-to-contain-Russia/1851417450877/ (http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2014/12/01/NATO-announces-deterrent-force-to-contain-Russia/1851417450877/)
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: TylerDurden on December 02, 2014, 05:53:26 pm
Christ, NATO and the US really want to conquer Russia. The US has been waging war over sanctions for decades. It is about time that the US was banned from all other financial markets and given sanctions.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: goodsamaritan on December 02, 2014, 08:02:37 pm
Christ, NATO and the US really want to conquer Russia. The US has been waging war over sanctions for decades. It is about time that the US was banned from all other financial markets and given sanctions.

This is exactly how the rest of the civilized countries feel and are doing.  What China, Russia and the BRICS nations are doing.  The current warmongers in charge are just irresponsible bully thugs.  I am flabbergasted at the submissive vassal states of NATO and Japan who do the bidding of the bullies even if it sabotages their own economies.

And the western mainstream media?  Total fiction propaganda.

Look at Japan started Unlimited QE again just after the USA FED says they stopped QE.

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The other facet of this global WAR.  The fraud on Gold pricing and we are near the end climax.  Either US Dollar monetary collapse or nuclear war.  The evil money masters will choose nuclear war. 

Rob Kirby-US Dollar Money System Failing In Spades (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6ZM5t1SYdw#)

Published on Nov 30, 2014
What does the extreme precious metals demand say about the global financial system? Kirby thinks, “What the western world is trying to hide from the rest of the world is the U.S. dollar centric money system is failing, and it’s failing in spades. The only reason it hasn’t failed yet is extraordinary levels of corruption and fraud have been used and employed to keep kicking the can down the road. They are also trying to keep officiating and hiding from the general public how broken the system really is. That’s been done basically by payoffs, bribes and ownership of the media; payoffs, bribes and ownership of the political apparatus; and payoffs, bribes and ownership of the biggest financial institutions. It gives things the appearance of being under control, but beneath the surface, things really aren’t under control.”

Join Greg Hunter of USAWatchdog.com as he goes One-on-One with Rob Kirby of KirbyAnalytics.com.

http://usawatchdog.com/gold-selling-for-at-least-50-over-spot-in-asia-rob-kirby/ (http://usawatchdog.com/gold-selling-for-at-least-50-over-spot-in-asia-rob-kirby/)

(You must watch and listen to this interview... brand new... Nov 30, 2014)
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: Brad462 on November 17, 2015, 12:48:29 am
Anyone paying attention to Putin lately?  He laughed at Obama at the G20 summitvand called him a child, not directly of course.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: Brad462 on November 18, 2015, 06:42:31 pm
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/11/17/russia-bombing-terrorists-in-lebanon/ (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/11/17/russia-bombing-terrorists-in-lebanon/)Fuck yeah.  Russia is sincerly interested in fighting terrorism instead of just trying to impress the cameras it seems.
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: Brad462 on November 18, 2015, 07:01:46 pm
"Putin is the only defender of Christianity"  Truly prophetic words spoken by syrian president Assad.

 http://allenwestrepublic.com/2015/11/17/putin-to-forgive-the-terrorists-is-up-to-god-but-to-send-them-to-him-is-up-to-me/ (http://allenwestrepublic.com/2015/11/17/putin-to-forgive-the-terrorists-is-up-to-god-but-to-send-them-to-him-is-up-to-m)
Title: Re: Putin Truth Teller - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules 24 Oct 2014
Post by: Brad462 on December 07, 2015, 11:07:32 pm
Putin warns U.S. citizens do not give up your guns:      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAgapc7NpOg&feature=youtube_gdata_player (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAgapc7NpOg&feature=youtube_gdata_player)