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Journals / Re: a strong mother...
« on: August 13, 2012, 07:34:04 pm »

Thank you! It IS hard to be on this diet when having a child. I don't even know how to tell my parents that the baby will be eating raw meat soon. I also dread things like kindergarten and school...we are actually even planning to avoid kindergarten, due to the risk of my son eating certain foods. :/

Maybe I really am experiencing detoxes then. How long have you had them for?

Raw cream - well, I eat a lot of raw butter and take olive oil supplements. Cream sounds good, but I think it has less fat and may not do the trick for me?
I definitively feel like my high fat diet has been producing very fatty high calorie milk for my little guy. He is so chunky, just I don't seem to be getting any ;)

Hi, again, sorry for the delay. Your son looks healthy and beautiful on your profile picture! I have noticed that I don´t gain weight on just fat (that´s why the Low Carb High Fat diets are successful when trying to loose wieght, I guess) but rather if I combine fat with carbs, like cream with berries or banana.
The detoxes I used to have in my throat and lungs used to last for a couple of days, sometimes with fever. I had many years of throat infections and antibiotic treatments prior to RAF so it was in bad shape.

Journals / Re: A day in the life of TylerDurden
« on: July 20, 2012, 09:00:37 pm »
Yes I experience the same thing, I need a full eight hours or more in the winter, and about half of that in the summer. I am from Sweden and the dark winters here really invites us to sleep a lot more than during summer. When I have stayed in Asia for long periods of time I slept for about 6-7 hours per night regardless of season.

Journals / Re: a strong mother...
« on: July 16, 2012, 09:59:33 pm »
Congratulations on your health recovery! That is fantastic. It is hard to go against the established view on diet and health, especially if you have a child. Everyone seams to think they are entitled to an opinion when you have kids.
I have had strong and frequent detoxes in my throat and tonsils since going on RAF. Almost only when eating "white" meat like fish or chicken. I use to get a very sore throat and sometimes fever. Doesn't happen anymore, but once I ate farmed salmon and had an allergic reaction similar to what you are describing. I have over time learned to feel the difference between detox and bad effects from food and I welcome detoxes due to high bacteria in raw food, but I know that not all people seek that kind of experiences, and I totally get that. But sometimes the quickest way to health is through somewhat uncomfortable detoxes. Maybe that is what you are experiencing with fish, only you can know.
 :) Try berries with raw cream (if you can get it) to gain weight, or frozen berries blended with cream as an ice-cream. Berries are the only thing I eat frozen sometimes, according to AV and others, they hardly looses any nutrition by freezing. Anything is worth a try even if only to gain back some weight. It is the best defence when recovering from health issues, and to produce good, nutritious milk for your child.

General Discussion / Re: feeding a new born
« on: June 14, 2012, 06:41:59 pm »
I would go with goatmilk and organic liver, some eggyolks, mix it good and strain it. Raw cream in the mix would be good. Mothers milk is about half fat, caloriewise so you should try to copy that. A baby can not swallow any solid bits for the first 4-5 months, and everything you feed should be body temperature.  If the mother is interested in getting her milk back she should definitely go for that, it is possible even after a long time, but it needs persistence. And it is also very important that the mother eats very nutritious foods while lactating otherwise the milk will be lacking in nutrients. I would use Green Pastures fermented codliver oil and butter oil in small quantities, too. I give it to my kids and it's wonderful. After being a vegetarian for 10 years, I breastfed my first son for 2 years and 3 months until his teeth where rotting in his mouth, because the milk lacked lots of nutrients. RAF and codliver oil saved his health and he is now one of the healthiest kids around.
I have to stress the fact that the baby needs constant body contact, as Suiren pointed out earlier. Specially a preemie. Skin contact and a sling is the best to get a baby to grow and develop properly. They need much more physical contact then what is normally adviced, there is no upper limit, really, and you as a Dad can give that as well as the mother. Try to find a safe way to co-sleep. We slept on big, not too soft, mattresses on the floor when the kids where small. No risk of rolling on you baby if the bed is not too soft, and no risk of falling out of bed.
My second child started to eat bits of RAF when he was about 6 months, just taking bits from our plates, usually minced meat or chicken and butter. He kept on breastfeeding for 2 and a half years.
Best wishes to you and your family!

Hot Topics / Re: Controversial anti-Aajonus claim
« on: June 09, 2012, 06:13:57 am »
I didn't refer to your doubts about the coyote story, Dorothy, but rather that it seamed to be one of the "charges" against Aajonus´credibility coming from the people trying to discredit him in media. I totally get that they would come down hard on the fake PhD, but to criticise his personal experiences or rather his interpretation of events in his past is just strange to me.
Whether or not it's accurate, that's pretty cool Dorothy, I love studying body language and neuro linguistic programming, fascinating, and part of cultivating one's own awareness also, how we carry ourselves and how we behave.
I agree!

Hot Topics / Re: Controversial anti-Aajonus claim
« on: June 08, 2012, 11:16:26 pm »
My time in the wild involve other people, my husband, and to some extent my children but other locals from the area as well. I am not comfortable sharing because it may affect others. And I cherish that time so immensely, I somehow feel that if I analysed it much it would loose it's magic to me. But this forum feels like a safe haven so if I were to write something about that time in my life I might just post it here. But let's just say that I have experienced animals offering game and showing where to find clean water for example. I have seen people living with animals in coexistence to an extent I did not think was possible, but this were persons engaged in spiritual practises and not people living a "normal" life.

Hot Topics / Re: Controversial anti-Aajonus claim
« on: June 08, 2012, 07:50:54 pm »

I'm satisfied with Aajonus' reply.

Me too. The man has been attacked so many times before, as anyone who went public like him would. That's why so many of us RAFers are still hiding in the closets. Aajonus is a brave advocate for health, no question about that for me. I remember listening to a webradio interview with him about the Swineflu hoax and thinking "Oh, my good, they will kill him now, for sure". Not long after did I read about the forced vaccination done to him. Anyone who questions Big Pharma, Governments and other Big Ass Companies are living dangerously these days. Even if you are just a raw milk farmer, as we have seen. Wouldn't be surprised if the fake PhD was given to him with the intent of doing him harm in the future. And he was naive enough to accept it, as he shouldn't have.

As for the coyote story; That critique is just strange. How anyone but him can know what he experienced then and there is beyond me. It's a reasonable enough story to me, I have lived amongst animals in the Himalayas and they have given me stranger gifts than that at times. The difference is that I am not ready to share it boldly with the world as AV does. Thankfully, though, some of us are that bold. That way this important information about healthy foods have spread.
I am meeting Aaron's in July in Finland. I will see what he says about the whole thing if I get the chance.

General Discussion / Re: Bugs ?
« on: June 08, 2012, 06:37:00 pm »
Yes!!! Thank you miker for raising the bar! This is to be my new challenge now. I have been thinking of adding bugs to a smoothie with raw eggs, cream and berries, just to have a slow start. I guess earthworms would be safe to start with? Unfortunatelly I don´t live where I can have chickens at the moment, so the question is how to know which bugs are safe to eat.
Bugs are full of omega 3, 6 and other good stuff!

Off Topic / Re: Freelee's brother jumped ship.
« on: June 08, 2012, 06:20:33 pm »
This is one of many threads on this forum that makes me so happy while reading! There are so many intelligent, gifted, curious and wise people in this forum and THAT is the ultimate proof of the benefits of a RAF diet. More so, than any poster babe.
Although, if we were to have an official RAF babe, I too vote for Sabertooth! Man, you look good  >D !
And so does all of you who are courageous enough to post pictures here, I am truly inspired by each and every one of you.
The tone of respect for individual paths on this forum is very rare and something that I have never come across on raw vegan forums (before when I were interested in that dietary regime). Freelee, Duriander and other fanatics are a bad rolemodels for young people. Many girls will starve themselves until they lose their periods and boobs to look like Freelee and all the other unhealthy female rolemodels out there. I wonder how great they will feel when their teeth start to come out and their digestive system cracks due to lack of fat.
I'm happy for Freelees brother! Hope he finds his way to RAF.


Let us know how it went, will you?
Yes I will.  :)


Tell him to get down here  :P  ;)

I will! He should do a full European tour while he is here!

I am going to meet Aajonus for a consultation when he is in Helsinki, Finland in July. I have been following his work for more than ten years and it is the first time I can go to see him in person, I am very excited about that. Anyone else in Europe who is going to Helsinki?

General Discussion / Re: Raw Chicken
« on: September 18, 2011, 09:48:02 pm »
Raw chicken is my favorite food when we are in Kashmir. We buy them alive usually, kills them ourself at home and strip the skin off them with feathers and all. You loose a bit of fat, but it is such a chore to pluck the feathers otherwise. And free range chicken has very tough skin, I don´t like to chew it. Even the meat is much tougher than broilers. And the bones are as hard as lamb bone! On a broiler chicken my three year old chews the bone without problem, but on theese chickens, running wild, eating only bugs, you need an axe to cut them! Their meat is dark and the fat is yellow. Sometimes you get a female with a belly full of eggyolks in different sizes. At first I got a strong detox effects by this chicken meat, like slight fever, swollen lymph glands for a day or two. The only other meat that gives my that strong detox is fermented beef.  I like it with some lemon or lime drops, but eaten within minutes before it gets all white.
Thanks for the Mo Lohaus Book, I am reading it now. Very interesting!

General Discussion / Re: Why does Aajonus say salt is explosive?
« on: September 18, 2011, 12:40:36 am »
I know he speaks of it in some detail in the DVD that you can by from the WeWant2Live website. Rather than misquote him I can just direct you to that film. In the books, he doesn´t go into much details about it.

General Discussion / Re: Raw paleo breastfeeding?
« on: August 05, 2011, 11:58:55 pm »
Encourage her to eat lots of raw animal fat if she wants to go more Raw Paleo, that should take care of most of the toxins. Raw butter and raw cheese is excellent for this purpose, too. Let the change take time rather than go cold turkey. Give her lots of good organ meats, that is crucial both during pregnancy and lactation. She can just swallow raw organic liver or bone marrow in small pieces every day with water or milk if she doesn´t like the taste, just for the nutrition. I would recommend the cod liver oil from Green Pastures or the mix they sell with cod liver and butter oil, too, in her case. Good breast milk is all about the fat soluble vitamins, and that is impossible to get enough of on a SAD. Eat RAF in front of your baby and let him/her taste it when he/she wants. They usually get interested around 4-6 months to try some solid food. Let it be RAF for the benefit of the nutrition and bacteria. The baby will probably want to nurse for a long while to complement small portions of solid food. My kids nursed for about 2,5 years each, and would have kept doing that much longer if I had let them.

I agree with AV about eggs being an inferior source of protein compared with meat.

The problem with frozen meats is that you loose some of the bacteria and probably enzymes as well and it makes it harder to digest for me, and it definately loses taste. I agree with those who said you need to get a good butcher contact. That will help you immensely.

Maybe you don´t want to eat chickens, since you raise them, otherwise raw chicken with some lemon juice is a very easy beginners meal.

I did lot´s of flavoring at first because I didn´t want the transition to RAF to be hard or boring. For instance I did (and still do sometimes) a nice homemade pesto with fresh basil, garlic, raw pine nuts and raw parmesan cheese and butter, that I ate with my meat meals. Or a nice guacamole with avocados, garlic and fresh chili peppers. There is so many things you can do to treat yourself to tasty meals even on a RAF diet. Sometimes i put coconutoil, lemongrass, cream and some green chili on the meat and I pretend I am in a thai restaurant  ;) After a while people on a RAF diet tend to need less flavor.

General Discussion / Re: What would you do in my situation?
« on: July 27, 2011, 10:05:05 pm »
Hi Bacchus, fellow Swede!
I know it seems very difficult to find your way to good raw animal foods at first, but start small and take it from there. Sweden has a lot of good raw food, once you know where to look, and a lot of the normal meats in the market is okey, lamb in Sweden is pasture fed most of the time, and most of the beef is out grazing all summer and hay-fed in the winter. Try to buy local as much as possible, that way you can ask what the animals are fed. The sea-food is excellent, any big supermarket with a fish counter will have a variety of wild caught fish to choose from (don´t miss the oysters!). You can contact the local hunters, they usually sell wild game when it´s season. Any big supermarket will have organic, free range chicken meat. I always go shopping on sundays, and often find chicken, fish and meats on discounts because the date is soon to expire and that doesn´t bother me. If you want to try raw dairy you can contact a local farm and buy the milk directly from them. Most farmers have free range eggs, too. There is berries in abundance in the forests, during season.
Good Luck!

I did a lot of research before we had kids, and we decided against it. It just seems like really bad science, with very bad side-effects. I do iridology and the damage to the tissues is very easy to see in the iris when a kid gets the vaccines. I trace some of my difficulties of remembering and stuff, back to my own vaccinations. We live both in India and Europe and our kids are the healthiest ones around, beeing completely unvaccinated. I lie straight to the doctors faces all the time, and tell the doctors at their school that they have had there vaccines in India, and I do the same there if asked. They can´t make you give vaccines to your child, but they will surely try to persuade you. In Germany, though, you can get good antroposophical pediatrics. They don´t belive in vaccines, usually.

Off Topic / Re: Woman Giving Birth in a Bathtub
« on: July 26, 2011, 08:20:34 pm »
I have tried both giving birth in water and not, and I preferred water, because the warm water reduced the pain of the contractions by half or so. In Europe it is quite common for homebirths. But the water needs to be really warm, to have a baby in a cold lake, or such, would be an incredible torture for both mother and child, I would imagine.

Off Topic / Re: Clay
« on: July 26, 2011, 08:08:06 pm »
Does anyone know of a good distributor of clay in Europe, either on line or otherwise. Seams stupid (and expensive) to order French clay from the U.S. if you live in Europe, as I do.

General Discussion / Re: Help with cravings
« on: January 08, 2011, 07:03:37 pm »
 Wow! You lived in the two most beautiful parts of india, kashmir & goa, Moutain & sea.

Did you have any issues with 'grainfed chicken raw'. I was there recently i decided against eating it. What about mutton in india, did u try it raw?

I feel we are occupying Hannahs thread here, Turkish, but as a short answer to your question; I have had plenty of raw mutton in India, goat as well as sheep, they label it all mutton, and never had any problem with it. I have also had quite a bit of grain fed chicken raw, I can´t stay without chicken for a long time, I crave it when I have eaten only read meat for a while. I often have physical reactions to chicken, both grainfed and from pasture, l feel it has a strong detox effect on me. I always try to find good meat but if I can´t I will eat grainfed. Never had any problems with parasites from raw food in India, but a couple of near- death experiences from cooked vegetarian food in the past.
I find the climate and bacterial flora in India to be awesome for health.

General Discussion / Re: Help with cravings
« on: January 06, 2011, 10:58:29 pm »
Hi Turkish,
I am actually moved back to my native Sweden, but I lived in India for years, mostly in Kashmir and Goa. It´s been a struggle to find good meat, especially when travelling and whenever we stayed long in cities like Delhi etc. I have no good tips for you, I´m afraid. In Goa I liked the beef better than the mutton (that´s mostly lean goat) and above all the seafood. I used to get good eggs and okey buffalo milk, too. And a lot of coconuts. In Kashmir we get lovely mutton straight from the herdsmen. The sheep there are pasturefed all year. Very good chicken, eggs and milk, too. And sometimes riverfish like trout. The lakefish is uneatable, though.
My overall experience from the RAF of India is that it is very easy to get meat and chicken from all the butchers, but it´s rarely good quality, grass fed meats. But you have to eat, and it´s better to eat grainfed chicken raw, then fried in oil in a butter masala, that´s my motto.

General Discussion / Re: Help with cravings
« on: January 06, 2011, 08:57:25 pm »
I have struggled with the carb cravings for years, I was 20 kg overweight before going raw. After extensive testperiods with different foods, this is what I found out works for me;

If I indulge in sweet fruits when I get cravings it doesn´t make me feel satisfied, if anything it makes me moody and gives me more cravings. But I do use a little sweet fruit if I feel blue, it lifts my spirit. It rarely happens anymore.

The only thing I have noticed work for that old carb craving is an AV remedy, making fresh juice of green vegetables and drinking a glass on waking in the morning, and more between meals during the day if necessary. Otherwise I am not much of a juicer, I much prefer foods in their natural state, but this green juice really saves me from a day (or month) off the wagon.
I belive the cravings hit me when my blood has gone too acid and thats why the green juice completely kills all sugar/carb cravings. If I wake up with cravings I drink it in the morning, otherwise not. It can be about once or twice per month. The cravings are less and less frequent over time.
Some persons do well on a high carb raw diet and others, like me, do best when keeping sweet fruits and veggies to a minimum.

I have learned more and more to feel the different between a normal hunger for some foods (my body needs something) and a junky craving that comes from a lifetime of crapfood and (in my case) years of overeating.

General Discussion / Re: I feel like I am at the end of my rope
« on: May 05, 2010, 08:55:12 pm »
It has been said; everybody is trying from own experience to help eachother on this journey.
I used to be starving all the time for at least the first year, and I still get extremely hungry sometimes. Not strange since our bodies are starved by a lifetime of crapfood. As others have mentioned, the only thing helping was eating more fat. I found butter and fresh coconut very satisfying. First I would eat as much meat and animal fat I could get down, and then I would sit and chew coconut meat, spitting out the pulp, until I felt satisfied. Sometimes for hours.
If I eat fruit I mix it with at least the double amount of butter and put it in the fridge for an hour, it is delicios, maybe the fat will prevent you from getting the symptoms from fruit. Might be worth trying, if you haven´t. A little bit of fruitsugar from a fruit mixed with much fat helps me when I feel depressed.
I have tried liverflushes and stuff before, and it has agrivated whatever problems I have had, I would not recommend it. A raw meat diet is a much better and safer way to give the body a chance to heal itself in its own speed. There is no permenent damage.
Like many others I recommend trying different foods. Who can eat beef for months and not get bored with it? Personally I love superfatty lamb or mutton, ground and cold it tastes like ice-cream to me, if it is really fatty. Chicken, if you can get good one, or sea food with some lime or lemondrops on is a treat. Stay away from doctors, they can´t possibly understand the diet you are eating.

General Discussion / Re: raw bone marrow tastes like ice cream!
« on: May 02, 2010, 03:04:27 pm »
Yes, the marrow I get has blood in it, too. It doesn´t effect the taste much. If it is too slimy and bloody, then I don´t eat it. I like it a bit hard and creamy!

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