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Off Topic / Re: Urine therapy nonsense
« on: July 13, 2014, 11:50:59 am »
The open mind studies before the mouth chatters.
It is a difficult lesson for  many minds to understand.
Galileo & Ignaz Semmelweis—two men who opened doors for which they are cherished.
The world is full of learning when study is the true path to knowledge which so few follow.

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Health / Re: Magnesium is curing me
« on: May 18, 2013, 02:43:02 am »
Barefoot, good for you. I read of a doctor claiming that if we all got our magnesium, hospitals would be emptied.
I make ionized magnesium water- instructions easily found on the net. If consists of club soda and Milk of Magnesium. I have read that Magnesium Chloride is the best form for taking internally and externally, as a body rub that is absorbed. Magnesium is the great regulator of the electrolyte family (sodium, potassium, Magnesium, calcium and phosphorous). However, one can only store so much and the excess is evacuated via the bowels,  though it might also be reabsorbed if the BM is not stupendous. (The other electrolytes are then best regulated when magnesium is readily available.)
Vitamin C is stored in the linings of the stomach and intestines but an excess (in double digit grams) has the same effect loosening the bowls; so I wonder if magnesium isn't to a degree also stored in those linings.

Magnesium needs to be taken throughout the day so a pocketful of weaker tablets might be advised, a bottle of the MoM Club Soda water always on hand or Magnesium Chloride rub from a small bottle.
Recipe for ionized MoM concentrate. Chill MoM & 2L quality Soda Water. Add 90ml MoM. Cap and shake 30 seconds. Refrigerate half hour+. Re-shake. Bottle should collapse as magnesium ionizes.
MoM drink. Add 100ml concentrate to 1L/1quart water. Sip throughout day. If bowel evacuation becomes a prob, add less concentrate. I also add 100g (3.5 oz) cranberry concentrate or black cherry juice, lemon juice, stevia or Xylitol and 1/2 tsp baking soda which also helps the body with CO2, though I don't drink within two and a half hour after a meal so as not to compete with acids needed for digestion. We don't think of CO2 as being important (some governments have declared it a toxic poison) but our stomachs work hard to make it and all life is dependant upon it. It also helps alkalizing the body.
You are protecting your heart with the regulatory magic of magnesium, preventing and clearing out calcification, calming your nervous system and I suspect your heavy perspiration might improve. Test your handwriting before and after taking magnesium. Some are so attuned to their need for magnesium they sense when they are deficient. Sensing is an acquired skill, especially in these times of highly commercialized processing of foods.

Are you constantly thirsty?
When I was around your age I lived in the tropics and I was often thirsty and sweated profusely. I couldn't get enough water. Then one day a local shop keeper must have recognized my dilemma and added salt to my lime drink. I was too thirsty to send it back and upon drinking it, my thirst was quenched. You might also be an O blood type and a higher fat, low carb regime might be in line. Experiment on your own personal laboratory (your body). Continue to listen wisely to the signals your body sends, Barefoot, and you will do well.

My mum was rushed by ambulance to emergency in 1972. She had a severe potassium deficiency and made three more emergency trips before I learned about magnesium's regulatory importance. She lived twenty-two years hospital emergency free using magnesium until she was being assessed in a hospital setting for independent living. She was not allowed to bring her magnesium with her and died three days later from heart stress. The importance of the great regulator cannot be over stressed.

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Hot Topics / Re: Controversial anti-Aajonus claim
« on: July 19, 2012, 01:12:42 pm »
Dorothy, I can see the converted being impressed, but I think to the unconvinced and especially those who may not even be aware that raw is possible and doesn't kill, I think a gentler approach could have been made.

But I have come round to the man after seeing a number of YouTube videos by him. He is actually very gentle which makes me even more suspicious that he did not feel comfortable with the pompous establishment and their condescension. His may be a traumatised spirit.  Such a horrific early life, I feel bowed.

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General Discussion / Re: how to not throw up eating calf's liver
« on: July 19, 2012, 12:54:01 pm »
Another possibility, Joe, is to make liver pâté. My first adventure was quite runny. I have some very dry beef gelatine I make from beef bones but I don't' want to eat anything cooked just yet so I don't' have a tested recipe yet.

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Dorothy, I have always been aware of my body and its reaction to foods, and to some external reactions as well. I do not like to touch plastic and certain cloths. I had a chiropractor who tested my arm strength to things such as tobacco (I was a smoker), chemicals of sorts, some plastic, and other bad and good things I can't remember. They were in small vials and she held them close to my upper chest, the thymus maybe but I thought it was the thyroid? My outstretched arm became weak with some and stayed firm with others. Now that would be an interesting test to do with foods, eh.

I am noting that my meditation sessions are more focused since I have gone 99% raw (I cook my garlic or use powder) and beer and occasional chocolate are strong opponents.

My experience with cooked food that day has so reinforced my desire to only eat raw. My hip continues to be very pain free and my sense of peace is on the upswing, though the incessant yipping of a small dog outside the window while I was trying to concentrate on a YouTub video, Cancer the Forbidden Cures, eventually sent me into a rage I had not experience for years. (I'm trying to collect info for a friend whose dad's pancreatic cancer has migrated to his liver- he had chemo, not sure of radiation. My friend is coming round to the idea of diet for his dad with the info his aunt and I are finding for him.) Back to topic.  The rage was a good thing, strangely. I have never come to terms with this side of my nature as I am usually such an even tempered person (as the family peace keeper I learned early to bottle up). For the first time I came to terms with the rage with both myself and my victims. Before, I just ignored it.

The raw experience is wholly encompassing, so freeing and energising. For all my food addictions I have always been able to give up what I found to be harmful (except beer,  ice cream and chocolate. Ice cream is gone and chocolate almost. At the moment I do the backwards miracle trick turning beer into water.)

The step into raw was the missing link.

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Crazy comes in all forms. What I get when I eat raw is a sense of the spiritual and I take a moment to appreciate the sacrifice and thank the animal's spirit. I never felt that over chomping on a peach. But there I am, off topic as usual.

So here's my thoughts on arguing with one of your nutty commenters.

Really, every animal kind, herbivores as well, eat primal raw. The difference is that herbivores farm their little critters called bacteria, billions of them, in one of their stomach compartments and then digest them as amino and fatty acids much as we do; at least that is how I have come to understand it. Cellulose is bacteria grub.

So, if eating primal is a criminal act I'm just trying to imagine what a bovine scaffold would look like—the slope of the rise, the hole? How large would it have to be? You wouldn't want Bessy knocking her head on the down. The strength of the rope? Pretty thick to make a flexible noose. Would the beast be blindfolded. That's what is traditional to the murderer.

And these vegan are no better killing all those plants to eat. The screaming of plants when they are cut is awful! There were studies in the sixties or seventies. And their neighbours joined in chorus, probably in fear they they might be next.

I think silly talk deserves reciprocity in kind. I would expect to be invited  to the debate. I'll bring my cow bell.

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Raw Weston Price / Re: Apology re Weston-Price
« on: July 17, 2012, 11:08:10 am »
Heh, heh. Thanks for sharing that humorous, if unfortunate, story. Being able to laugh at adversity is one of the solaces of being human.
It was a traumatic experience at the time. I had no idea what was happening as the dog went for the plate of rice and the Bomoh swung the parang hidden behind his back—but the dog didn't know what hit him. It wasn't till I got back to my friends that I could sleep without an eye open and my shoes off.

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General Discussion / Re: how to not throw up eating calf's liver
« on: July 17, 2012, 10:03:43 am »
DBoss, raw beef liver (not calf)  was the raw food I started with. I figured if I could get that down, anything else  would be a song. I slivered it and did the water drink. That was wretched as the water carried the smell and flavour to every molecule of my body.

Then I tried the following: The liver was slightly frozen and easy to cut so I cut it into double match stick widths, single wide, about an inch in length. I patted off the blood and moisture. I then gave it a splash of Vietnamese fish sauce, Bragg's Apple Cider Vinegar (or try Japanese vinegar), garlic chilli (or pepper). I now prefer the Japanese vinegar over the sweetness of Bragg's concoction. I now seem to be liking my food less sweet and far less salty. I'm working towards salt free in most of my meals.

Do not look at it before you eat it. This is the only food I now eat with a fork. Think pickles because that was the texture to me, so slight in crunch. This is now my favourite way of eating raw liver. Also, lamb's liver seems to be milder but I have been told that it is not as nutritious. Don't know about that.

(I loved cooked liver all my life so I didn't come to this with as much prejudice as liver haters might.) If you like sesame oil, the dark flavoured kind used in Chinese cooking, a drop of that might also be worth a try.

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General Discussion / Re: Paleo Diet and Sinusitis
« on: July 17, 2012, 09:23:22 am »
I suffered with stuffed sinuses and headaches since childhood. My system became addicted to Otrivin spray so I gave it up and just suffered. Five years ago I bought a pump and used that with a sodium solution and it cleaned out the cavities but the infection continued.

Then I tried adding Xylitol to the solution and the phlegm fell like sheets of water from my cavities. For the first time I could remember I could fall asleep at night not lying with my hand under my face pushing my cheek back so I could breathe. I haven't had any sinus problems since, and now I use a dollar store pump to spray my nostrils at night and in the morning.

As an aside, I had three flues and a at least five colds the winter before I started the Xylitol. I was never really prone to colds and flues, only sinus problems. Twas the windowless classroom in which I was teaching. The air would become acrid in the afternoons. I spent the next year in that room and had not one cold or flue though the students were often sick.

I haven't had so much as a sniffle since, not one cold, not one flue even with those in the house dropping round me this past year. To me it was a miracle. I had expected I would suffer the rest of my life—such was the my mother's curse.

Xylitol might put the good doctor out of business.

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Hot Topics / Re: Controversial anti-Aajonus claim
« on: July 17, 2012, 08:50:52 am »
Thoth, Aajonus walked into an ambush, however it was to go. We have no idea what went on before the show but I wouldn't be surprised if some shenanigans and motive or agenda didn't happen to set him off his guard. We both would agree, I suspect, that those Treaters of Symptoms would have no regard for whatever he had to say.  Notice the condescending comments from the tall blond MD to him at the end.

I would hope in future that Aajonus picks his forums more carefully or at least goes with support. I suspect he is an man of emotion (I don't mean that as a disparagement) and he became nervous.

But Aajonus is a worthy warrior and towers over snivelling Ornish - no offence meant to snivellers.

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Raw Weston Price / Re: Apology re Weston-Price
« on: July 17, 2012, 07:37:32 am »
TylerD, that you will even give QuackWatch any time suggest you have an mind that chooses to read from many sources, even opposing ones. Such will draw scorn but may suggest a quizzical mind in search of truth regardless—and from the widest possible sources. That you make retractions and admit error feeds the fire for truth. (feeling lyrical today)

On open minds. Such are good but my problem at times is finding the fine line between open and curious to open and easily swayed. Then there are the closed minds (prejudging) that fail to hear the wisdom that might come from the idiot's mouth. Which reminds me of Doug McGuff's comments on the survivor's (us) automatic response to conventional wisdoms (out of haste) in stressful times.

Having lived with "Noble Savages" on two continents the similarity to genius and stupidity mirrors modern society. A wakeup call was when I witnessed a Borneo Bomoh (witch doctor) drop kick the dog's head he had just severed across the room (part of the magic) after collecting the blood to drink and spread on a woman's cancerous belly. She died but a good time was had by all (thanks to the dog meat).

PaleoP, shall be following Stephan Guyenet. Thanks.

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Hot Topics / Re: Controversial anti-Aajonus claim
« on: July 17, 2012, 06:18:54 am »
When I saw Mr Vonderplanitz on The Doctors I did not at first catch his name. My impression was that he came across as a bit of a nut, for he seemed to lack common sense and seemed, at times, to be out of control. What went on before the show in consultation with the Doctors or their representative, may have affected his behaviour. But surely he must have been aware of what he was walking into and of the very real possibility of a planned agenda that was not in his best interests.

His actions and his statements surprised me, and I was familiar with the idea of raw eating. To choose chicken as the meat to eat in front of an audience who would be repulsed by the thought much less at the sight of the act, was a blatant challenge to those conventional doctors, their agenda aside, who would have no choice but to take him to task. Such could be seen as insanity. He practically asked for and definitely dared the responses he got and he should have been aware that reality shows have to impact their audiences to keep up their ratings. Such purport to be in the interest of information, but showmanship for audience reaction always trumps good reporting.

To come out to that audience, that most likely supports heroic medicine, with the statement about bacteria theory was the final nail to his coffin. Not having a quick response to the concerns over a newborn's health was the final shove into burial with an audience made up of mothers.  In an audience that size, and to a huge home and YouTube audience as well, there must be some who gravitate towards cooked meat and fat. Those were the ones who might be interested to search out the raw diet. Now possibly many will be less inclined to do so. For all those who got turned on to this life style by Aajonus, what multiplier might it be that are turned off by the appearance of fanaticism.

Poor judgement is where his crime sits. The movement is bigger than Aajonus. There are many in every movement that are left for dead along the journey to acceptance, many not by their own accord; and should Aajonus be such a casualty, then some of the blame rests on his poor judgement.

However, it is our duty to learn the truth and share the facts with naysayers as best we can. But we are not without resources. Fortunately, we have the mouth (and that face, the hair, those eyes) of Dean Ornish on our side in any debate with the fanatic vegan. It has been reported that his studies cannot be duplicated, which is a little tricky in the field of science.

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Health / Re: IBS: Try Olive Oil Enemas
« on: July 16, 2012, 02:14:25 am »
They say, "I ate right, had an amazing relationship with God/The universe/Nature, Good family ties, low stress, lived a life i loved, had a job i was passionate about, a chance to grow, etc."  There are so many factors.
-Joe
Excellent summary, Joe.

This may be just a passing anomaly, but since I have gone full RP, my hip (deformed bone since tear in 1981) has suddenly become completely pain free. The pain momentary returned this past Friday when I ate a Bento box meal, but then the pain passed later in the evening. Secondly, my eczema is clearing up. As well, the balls of my feet have been sore since I bought and wore for a few weeks a pair of thongs/flip flops that never sat right on my feet, and a few other odd aches and my slight perpetual headache, all have suddenly evaporated. I meditate a lot. I review my Sarno list daily (its on one of my desktop screen savers I can access on Mac from mission control) so I couldn't understand why I still seem plagued by TMS.

My hypothesis is that the influence of the foods we take can interfere with all that is mention in your last paragraph and the theories of Dr Sarno and others—no matter the time and detail we spend in thought and meditation.

At this moment, I am contemplating the pain I used to get that felt like a piano wire being pulled between my two smallest toes and yet there is no minor echo of pain evident. This is the first time the echo has not arisen with thought alone. Could this be that even developing healthy mind control through mental exercise as Dr Sarno, Ellis and the Buddha have taught are not enough; that as important is a healthy body/living style, or at least healthy eating dependent upon the right foods for our body types/needs is also necessary for full recovery?

The mind may not be enough. The factor of what we consume may be  important and empowering to the support of the natural inclinations of the mind for dealing with our stresses and pains than just the obvious biological chemistry of nourishment in the obvious  or usual sense?

I have experimented with food choices for forty years now. I have always made mental notes of how they affected me, physically and emotionally (all or most of what influences how we feel) and discovered individual foods and food patterns to avoid. The RV is a refinement on my Paleo cooked diet, which was a refinement on a ketogenic, to a refinement on Dr Peter D'Adamo, on Atkins, on my original delving into Adelle Davis and Linda (forget last name). Has it been a journey of steady improvement and I am reaching the apex of my long sojourn? Or is this a Mxyzptlk-ian  anomaly? (aka mischievous Mister Mxyzptlk from Superman comics). It has been nearly a week free of pain.

Time will tell, but I am pumped! and for the moment I feel extremely encouraged but must stop for I am getting a flood of ideas on other possibilities that I must contemplate through meditation to better understand them.

Namaste,
Michael

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No many how many decades I'm at it, the more I learn, the more I realize how vast the horizon.   :o
So true, Dorothy. When I was younger there where times when I thought there wasn't much more to learn, but such silly presumptions passed pretty quickly.

Now a miracle has happened that just shows how much there is to learn and experience. I have had a banjaxed hip for half my life. The pain has, at times been excruciating, almost to tears as how I would suffer trying to get it out of that old Beretta, so low slung, I suffered with at the turn of the century. Then I went on Dr D'Adamo's blood type diet and  gave up any scent of wheat. Shortly I was able to walk without pain and my mobility improved continuously over a nine month period.

But I was never completely free of pain. That was in 2000ish. Now I have been on a mostly raw diet for about three weeks, and the past week or so I have been so free of pain for the first times since I did the damage in or around 1981, that I have been morosely waiting for it to return. Then yesterday, my brother & cousin were in from Edmonton and came to sport me to a meal. I acquiesced at the mention of sushi. We got Bento boxed lunches which were not raw, though we added (Japanese fancy name for) raw farmed salmon.

Within the hour my pain was back as I was hobbling along in a huge mall to the Apple Store — no joy. And gas, if I could have bagged that stuff we could have motored home on it. First time since early January when I first started my quest with a ketogenic diet (after seeing "First Do No Harm" avec the great Meryl Steep).
By evening time the pain was gone and today I wasn't quite able to add jogging to my walks but the pain was again made myth.

I don't think it is an exaggeration to say that over the past three weeks I have shucked five years of perpetual tiredness. What lies ahead brings a broad grin to my being. I am going to read again, "My Side of the Mountain" my all time favourite childhood book just to revel in the joys of youth I feel in my bones.

Have done some great reads on Paleo in the news. It's really taking off. Here's an interesting one from the Vancouver Sun—look for blather from a nut called Jenkins. Naysayers brought Galileo down and they're raging amongst us still. Time to get out the stake and kindling.

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2011/12/30/caveman-diet-is-it-healthy-option/?test=faces

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: fat to protein ratio
« on: July 15, 2012, 04:59:32 am »
I've looked at a number of threads on fat-to-protein ratios and this seems to be about the best thread. On one of the other threads someone suggested that animals just eat, they don't worry about what the fat content is but I have read information to the contrary. What I have discovered is that I am very sensitive to carbs and fat. Carbs make me sluggish, inflame my damaged hip, and affect my skin negatively. With low carbs I am better able to sense my body's response to the foods I eat. The more fat, the better I feel. Even when I had no control over my diet I found that with moderate fat meals I had to add a few tablespoons of mayonnaise to alleviate sensitive teeth.

What I was hoping to find was how to manipulate the fat content in a raw animal diet. I couldn't seem to find an answer to this anywhere so I figured out the following which gave me rough proportions of fat to add to sirloin or round beef which has all visible fat removed. Of course there is no such thing as pure protein but trimmed sirloins and round beef are as close as it gets . . .
. . . from which I found that it takes ? 4 measures of fat to 1 measure of lowest-fat meat to be in the vicinity ratio of 90+% fat to <10% protein values.

It would be great if someone really conversant in maths or who has found a relevant formulae site would note them in this thread.

Accordingly, ground beef is typically 70 percent lean, ground chuck is 85 percent, ground round is 90 percent and ground sirloin is 97 percent lean. (University of Wisconsin Food & Safety Department) Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/526300-how-to-calculate-fat-from-meat/#ixzz20csCfwi3

Here are the rough proportions for fat to protein for meats with visible fat trimmed if you are going to be mixing fat with meat for a ketogenic diet, high fat diet or other plan. (Protein was kept as the constant at 1 measure (or weight) per variable measure of fat.) As noted, there is still going to be some fat in the beef so these are the minimal possible ratios of fat to protein. I mix suet (which is raw beef fat) with my meat. When I am short of suet I use home rendered lard.

Fat% (ratio of fat to protein)

90%   (4f:1p)   4 measures fat (suet) to 1 measure protein
85       (5:2)      (2½:1)
80       (9:5)       
75       (4:3)      
70       (1:1)      
60       (2:3)   
53       (1:2)   
50       (?1:2)    (4 ½:10 is more accurate)
40       (3:10)

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Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: What Exercises Should I Add??
« on: July 14, 2012, 09:24:04 am »
you should try martial arts

also maybe some of these exercises taht i do will help

Awesome video's Sully. The perfect way to work out. Have you checked out Doug McGuff's The 21 Convention for men
http://www.the21convention.com/2011/03/05/doug-mcguff-t21c-2010/

Shows the science behind what you do in your videos is a better way to exercise for health, endurance, muscle and skill building.

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Dorothy, you made my day! ;D
I'm a worrier but I am now going to roll my full raw diet up to Friday. I have a family outing this Thursday and then it's off to the races.

The only problem with raw is that I won't eat raw chicken. I don't particularly like chicken unless it is deep fried or in a curry and the bacteria is scary. I also don't eat pork anymore, except home made lard, since reading in W Price Foundation about red blood cells clumping together unless the pork has been soaked in a brine (forget term-curing?). All I am left with then is bovine, fish and eggs. But that was good enough for the Inuit, eh?

Thanks for the link. I know I am supposed to get vitamin K. I try to eat a lot of spinach. I love garden kale but store bought is like eating grass. It's been close to an hour since I ate the pate and I can't believe how good I feel. Might just be exuberance, or that I hadn't had breakfast or lunch yet.

I just had my first liver pate. It was very liquify so I must work on that. Fortunately, two professional chefs share this domain so I will get some pointers from them. But, it was scrumptious, regardless the texture, I broke out in song and the dogs joined me.
- the raw liver was frozen lamb. 46g
- raw beef marrow, from frozen bones 23g
(For the mathematicians out there, the weights were just what I pulled from the freezer) Everything is raw save for god-knows-how they make the sauces.
- a tiny clot of oyster sauce <1/8 tsp
- a tiny amount of fish sauce (for salt) <1/8 tsp (can't have soya sauce because of wheat)
- 1 red shallot- small
- 1/2 pip garlic (nb: should be smashed prior to being ground. Chopping doesn't do it.)
- end of tsp chill garlic sauce
- one favoured prayer "Please Don't Be Awful"

As I said, it was very liquidee. Next time I will just try the oyster sauce, sea salt, pepper (or powered chilli), shallot (maybe dried ones) and whole pip garlic smashed (maybe powdered). Maybe I should slice the liver very thin and lay it out on a cotton cloth to soak out some moisture?

I'm also thinking of whipping an egg yolk to see if it will stiffen- I don't think yolks do. (Maybe whipping too long in the coffee grinder is the problem?) Possibly if I let it rest in the fridge for ten minutes, it might set. Maybe frozen liver is less firm- but what choice do  I have if I want to eat it daily.

I am sold on this puppy. It was ambrosia. I may add a sprinkle of vitamin C power as I find I like a little tart every now and then. Maybe I could add some of the thick gelatine I render from from bone broth. Maybe the vitamin C will help preserve it and I could make this pate in batches . Will also do a google search to see how it is made.

Good idea not being in hurry mode for checkup as suggested, Dorothy.

Namaste,
Mhikl

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Healthy fresh organic beef or better yet calf liver is one of those ultra high nutrition foods out there.  We are talking B12 vitamin content to the max over and above any muscle meat.  We are talking about anemia cure, cancer cure, malnutrition cures, you name it, raw calf liver is the tops.

When I asked a butcher for calve's liver he claimed it wasn't used anymore and suggested lamb's liver instead. Said it was milder and I found that to be true.

goodsamaritan, your bit on this subject has inspired me.

I have a blood disorder of sorts that no one has quite figured out. Since childhood cuts have always taken a long time to clot and stop bleeding. My red blood cells are immature and malformed. I am always borderline anaemic but not so much that any doctor has volunteered the fact- or some did and it didn't make an impression. I only found out when I was moving back to Alberta and an old time doctor printed out all my specs to give to my new doctor at which point he then mentioned the borderline anaemia. I think I had heard about the malformed cells years ago but being young I didn't think anything more about it. I have always eaten a good portion of red meat so iron shouldn't be a factor though my iron is low, as far as I can remember. I will have to check with my doctor next visit.

I suspect I have always been slightly lethargic or at least have low stamina but I believe I have always pushed myself to compensate. I always blamed it on smoking and my weight or lack of exercise. Changing all three has not improved my stamina. Now that I am classified as elderly, 61, I find it harder to make do on such low energy.

I wonder if my poor memory could be due to this problem, too.

I am gong to try to eat an ounce or two of raw liver a day for the next few weeks and then visit my doctor to see about blood tests again. At this point, half my daily calories are from raw beef tallow and meat  and I have just started to add raw celery juice and pulp and more greens will follow. By the end of the month I am hoping to be eating 100% raw. I do so enjoy it.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
I just noticed this is under culinary creations so it might not get the traction and support I may need.

Namaste,
mhikl

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Vegan might be better in terms of healing cancer if one is attempting to starve the cancer cells - which is one way to cure cancer.
Dorothy, what about raw meats (bovine especially) and raw suet? Isn't it possible that they, in proper ratios of low protein to high fat, and at the right measures (not pig outs) to keep the body energised, could also have a cleansing effect? I would say some fancy phyto- and macronutrients from plants could be eaten with advantage.

And what about fasts: 18h, 24 h, two or three days fasts with alkaline water and possibly fresh squeezed lemon in water, wouldn't that help to starve the cancer cells. I would also think the ingestion of some food grade hydrogen peroxide during a fast and prior to eating might help to oxygenate the body.

Raw vegan is extremely cleansing and other diets can be adopted once the cancer is gone. There are many ways to cure cancer naturally with amazing track records whereas conventional therapy still only has a 3% cure rate - pretty pitiful.

I feel so good on raw animal with a good balance of fat to protein (75-25±5) and with interspersed alkaline water fasts, that I wonder if it isn't also a cleansing diet. Maybe a slow, steady cleans. My Triglycerides and Cholesterol levels are so good on this high fat, moderate protein raw diet that I wonder if it isn't slowly scrubbing out my arteries and doing time on any cancer cells?

Then the relative or friend reaches out to me and I say - great - let's do it!
But the bomb always drops and they say that they want me to help even though the person is going for chemo and radiation - . . . .
Bummer for sure, but I would be so concerned about someone not taking the chemo etc and relying upon my advice, even if it were the best advice in the world. Should the person not be helped there would always be that doubtful "What if . . . " However, if the crazy medical protocol wasn't to begin for a few months, then I sure would push what you know. And then demand retesting to see the progress, positive or negative that was occurring.

Rainforest analogy, brilliant!
So, if you want to prevent cancer from spreading all you have to do is take pectasol - c. . .
I must look this up.
If you want a tumor to stop growing , all you have to do is stop feeding it. Then you have LOTS of time, no matter what the doctors say about the normal progression of the disease.
That is what I mean by eating raw paleo. Wouldn't that starve the cancer? That is one of the reasons I am going this route. I want to feed my cells the proper diet so they can stop the rogue c cells in their initiatory swim.
Sigh. I'm sorry for your friend's father Mhikl. We are a brainwashed nation.
I know, Dorothy. He and his wife are lovely people, a few years older than I and both look healthy, strong, are active and trim. I have no knowledge about their diet history. I was fortunate to have a mother who was a nurse and curious. Our traditional diet came from her Scottish mother, a frontier nurse in the early part of the past century who liked her sweets but insisted on meat, fat and vegetables first and suspected anything manufactured. She called margarine 'poison' long before we learned the truth. We rarely had deserts or sweets save the usual special holidays or a special picnic. But the way their son, twenty years my junior, eats, I'm suspect.

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Hey goodsamaritan,

I'm in the process of watching the documentary. A friend's father was found to have Pancreatic cancer in December 2011. He is just finishing his radiation & chemo treatments and his liver has just been discovered to have growths. Once in the liver it sounds like that will lead the it entering the blood. It was for this reason I searched and came upon the documentary.

It takes time, will and effort to set up the scenarios to good health—exercise, sunlight, mental attitude and diet are the first four of the five efforts. The only concern I have, so far, is that the film seems to suggest, and the pdf on diet that came with the download presents a total vegan diet most of which seems to be raw. Raw I like but even low starch veg is sugar, though complex of course. I would think the better diet would be raw paleo, moderate on protein, heavy on healthy animal fats with some low carb veggies of all colours both raw and possibly pre-frozen or lightly cooked prior to eating . "Give the bugger cells as little sugar as possible", I would say, seems a better alternative.

I will post back once I have finished viewing it. But I am of the belief that cancer can be beaten, the body healed. I have read about spontaneous cancer remission and self-annihilation. I'm just a little queasy with the aspect of a carb diet.

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Welcoming Committee / Re: If I Were Fish I'd be Flounder
« on: June 30, 2012, 03:34:23 am »
Thank you for the greeting and kind words, Adora.

My Uncle passed away at age 88 with family members by his side. He was so tired but mustered a smile to the end. His energy resources were spent. My only wish is that he could have prepared for death. Death in the western world usually comes with sadness and pain. I admire the Buddhist manner of preparing for one's passage throughout life.

I do believe one's passing can be eased by good nutrition whether it is on a healthier vegan/vegetarian or primal styled diet. These two extremes are the norms I can only hope our world eventually embrace. It is the junk food way of living that is robbing our fellow sentient beings of their vitality. It is my wish and now my goal to be more understanding to all who embrace healthy living styles.

I have seen the devil and it is the amoral corporate high-jackers of our food sources and environmental resources. That is where our concerns must be directed if we are going to save our children and our future from ill-health and decay.

Namaste,
mhikl


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Health / Re: IBS: Try Olive Oil Enemas
« on: June 29, 2012, 09:42:48 am »
This may sound out of the ball park but it's a worthy possibility.

I can't remember how I found out about Dr Sarno, a back surgeon, but I wore out his book, Healing Back Pain. He went on to write The Mindbody Prescription and authored with others The Divided Mind.

He postulates that some part of the ancient brain strives to protect us from dangers in our world, from the smallest and most insignificant stress of a regular chore to do, to major life catastrophes. The protector is like the child in us and we need to calm him/her, let the child protector know s/he is to go to sleep and you will take care of things from now on.

The first two books are the easiest to follow, I think. The second delves into more psychosomatic pains and tensions beyond muscle pains. Healing Back Pain, however, does strive beyond the matter of his training. He calls the syndrome TMS, tension myositis syndrome though he now refers to it as tension myoneural syndrome which includes all body parts that have blood flow, such as bones, muscles, nerves and tendons. He suspects that many modern disorders, such as fibromyalgia, carpal tunnel syndrome, IBS, disk hernias have TMS origins.

I have been able to extinguish IBS, the sense of a piano cord being pulled between two smaller toes, back pains in many shifting regions, headaches, crawly skin, tennis elbow to a name a few. The problem with clearing up such psychosomatic irritants is that another often arises to take its place. One must be vigilant and wary of every pain and problem that arises.

The trick to solving all this is to take regular time to talk to the protector, calming, assuring and putting the child to rest and by recognising that the irritant is not real though the pain is real and due to a reduced blood flow induced by the brain to the area of the pain. Attending to the pain may alleviate some of the simp tons but really serves to reinforce the powers in the mind.

Those who do not suffer such stresses may fail to understand this problem in others. Many with a problem or problems also disregard any psychosomatic possibilities and accept what the power holder say and so avoid the confrontation and effort needed to bring solace to their little protector. I believe Albert Ellis, noted psychologist came to much of the same conclusions. We are often the ruler of our own miseries.

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Health / Re: Less Food?
« on: June 29, 2012, 12:16:42 am »
I only eat raw beef, bison and lamb fat at this point Charlie. Pork fat I render.

Tallow and suet are names for beef fat. The fat around the kidneys is supposed to be the best. I get mine from a good butcher. The best I have had for raw eating is ground up and has bits of red in it. It comes frozen or fresh.

I like to eat it slightly chilled if I am eating it on its own or with my chilled snack of fine chopped round steak.

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Health / Re: Less Food?
« on: June 28, 2012, 11:49:34 pm »
If i eat cooked kale, i still get most of the minerals, some vitamins, and my body doesn't use much energy breaking down the fiber.  This is why juicing/blending seem like very good ways to get in the raw nutrition if your digestion is off.

joej627, I believe you may be correct when it comes to vegetables as that is what I remember reading about over the years—more nutrients come from cooked veg and the vitamins are more easily released. What one reads, however, isn't always scientific.

On the USDA site http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/, it seems to suggest that there is more vitamin K in frozen spinach than fresh. I wonder if freezing vegetables instead of heating them might do the same in regards to digestibility?

I lightly blanch my vegetables. Chinese broccolis I cut up and add salt to my water. The stems I quickly blanch first, and lastly I add the leaves. Then about the count of ten later I strain the water out of the vegetables, and plunge them into ice water to stop the cooking. I shake them dry, roll them in a towel. Then I heat up some home rendered lard and toss them round a bit (to seal in the moisture???). I air cool them  and then pack them in a Nestle's ice cream container and to the fridge. They are very crunchy still and easy to add to any dish. The quick searing seems to stop them from losing their moisture.

Now I'm thinking of maybe giving the veggies their salt soak, rinsing them off and then just freezing them. Then I could just pull out some frozen veggies to quickly stir fry to hot enough when I am eating cooked meats.

Meats, however, Joe, I honestly believe are more nutritious raw. A mix of raw and cooked veg might be a way of covering one's preverbal, eh? :)

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Health / Re: Less Food?
« on: June 28, 2012, 11:19:05 pm »
- I imagine as cooked taste buds adjust then all sorts of flavours are tasted.
Exactly. In the few months I have tried raw foods, liver has become lighter in flavour and muscle meat seems to have developed some noticeable tones.

I lived three years in Sarawak, Malaysia and western chocolate bars were difficult to find. I made a two week visit home after two years and Sweet Marie chocolate bars tasted as usual. The next year I returned home for good and the first thing I did off the plane was to head for a kiosk to get a bar. The chocolate had become terribly sweet, the nuts tasted rancid, the pleasure was gone. Overcoming the power of fat, on the other hand, didn't take more than a few weeks when I tried the Ormish vegetarian diet for four months. Sweets are insidious.

. . . , as for raw eggs, I find I can eat literally twice as many raw eggs than cooked eggs. Raw eggs don't fill me at all :S
I'm going to have 4 raw eggs (1 more than the number of cooked eggs I usually down) though I will heat to slightly change the colour of the whites, add a dollop of butter and the raw yolks and time how long it takes to get hungry again, Polyvore. I usually breakfast on raw Round and tallow and I don't get hungry for about 4+ hours. I like the idea of more yolks in the morning. I might just add one raw yolk to my beef breakfasts. For some reason I am a little queazy in regards to raw whites.

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