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Thanks Tyler, I've started churning it and aerating for a few seconds every day, it's coming along really well and smells good! I can't wait to taste it.

Do you find fatty meat or fatty fish ferment better or worse than lean meat or white fish?

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I am making high meat for the first time. I have two Mason/Ball jars with diced venison in one and diced mackerel in the other. I am aerating them for about 30 seconds every day out in the garden, then they go back in my fridge. I just leave the cap off the jars for a half-minute and watch that nothing flies inside. Everything seems to be progressing fine but it's only been two weeks since I begun so I have not tasted it yet. It smells pretty good to me now. Here's the question.

QUESTION: the meat is diced into half-inch cubes. The jars are one quart/one litre, half filled with meat. Do I need to churn the chunks around so that the oxygen reaches the cubes at the bottom of the jar when I aerate. The pieces of fish at the bottom are pretty much stuck to the jar. Do I need to worry about anaerobic bacteria developing in the bits pressed up against the glass at the bottom? I could just churn it for safety but I was wondering if that's really necessary.

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Home at last!
« on: April 06, 2012, 01:44:11 am »
Hi Intrigued,
So, how are you finding it? Fav foods? Notice any changes in health? Keep us updated.

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Hello everyone
« on: April 06, 2012, 01:34:15 am »
Welcome Spirit Bear. Please do share with us some mileposts from your healing journey.

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Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Cold water Therapy
« on: April 01, 2012, 02:50:12 am »
Thanks for sharing your experiences Eric, they are so impressive. I'm inspired by them. Hope I can get to your level some day. Adora and PaleoPhil, it's also really inspiring to read your stories, as your experiences seem to parallel mine as we're all trying to adapt to extreme heat and, especially, cold. I've just been taking cold showers every day since January. In January I could get the temperature down to about 40F (8C) but now with the weather getting warmer it will not come out any colder than 45F (12 - 13C). I haven't tried cold baths yet. Are baths a more advanced technique? Obviously baths are more similar to immersion in an open body of water,  which is the ultimate goal for which I'm training.

I just moved to London and there are lots of open air swimming pools here (called lidos by the British). I don't think they are chlorinated, but could be wrong. Most close over the winter period but I've found one that stays open all year long and I intend on swimming there next winter.

My adaptation to the cold is progressing well. I now think nothing of cold showers. I don't start with warm either like I used to, I just jump right into the full cold shower. Usually shower for just about 5 - 7 mins as I don't actually have much to do in the shower since I stopped using shampoo :) May need to start staying in for longer just for the sake of increasing my adaptation to the cold, although maybe taking cold baths will be enough.

I worry a little about the chemicals in the tap water, but I'm glad that the cold water means my pores are closed so I'm probably not absorbing much of the bad stuff. I'm looking into buying a filter for the shower head.

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Home at last!
« on: March 09, 2012, 09:27:08 am »
There seems to be huge number of new members joining the forum. When I joined back in September I counted about 1000 members, there are now almost 3,600 listed.  That means over two thirds of the members have joined in the last six months. And how many more must be viewing the forum but not registering? Of course, the vast majority of members do not post anything, not even an introduction, so we don't really know whether they even eat RPD, but at least they appear to open to it.

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Personals / Moving to London
« on: March 01, 2012, 04:35:32 am »
I've finally got the job I've been seeking for months now in a global insurance firm based in the City of London! Super excited! Moving down there over next fortnight. Any fellow RPDers out there looking for accommodation in London, please pm me, maybe we could buddy up to rent a place together? Or anybody based in London who is trying to rent out a room?

By the way, I've been living in Leeds, West Yorkshire for the last six months and there doesn't seem to be much going on here in terms of RPD, but before I leave I would be delighted to find another person who follows this W.O.E to exchange ideas and resources on doing RPD in north of England, pm me if you live in the area....

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General Discussion / Re: Blood in marrow?
« on: February 23, 2012, 07:00:23 pm »
I sawed some bones today to extract marrow. They had been sitting at room temp for three days. When I pushed into the marrow, blood began to ooze out of the bone. The marrow was red, soft and creamy, seemed to be soaked in blood, tasted good with a distinct blood-like flavour.

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Health / Re: What if raw Paleo doesn't work?
« on: January 30, 2012, 06:46:16 pm »
goodsamaritan,

I think these are really good suggestions. There is a lot more to health than just diet. I have recently lost my job and I'm living in a new city with zero friends except one or two people I've met. It is very easy for me to become addicted to electronics, wifi, computers, tv, and end up having really poor sleep and a racing mind. Thank you for reminding me about what I need to do.

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Health / Re: Enzymes
« on: January 29, 2012, 06:51:35 am »
Has anyone ever found a scientific article or reference that verifies that enzymes present in the food help to digest food in the upper stomach without being denatured by hydrochloric acid? Tbh, until reading the above article, I had never before encountered any reference to different parts of the human stomach as having different functions and conditions.

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Journals / Re: Mark's food log
« on: January 23, 2012, 07:34:01 am »
Started intermittent fasting yesterday.

Today I ate:

4 - 7pm: 5 oysters, 20 mussels, 10 clams, mackerel fillet, plaice fillet, 400 g diced buffalo, 100g butter, 1 avocado, some almonds and cashews

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Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Today's workout?
« on: January 23, 2012, 07:28:31 am »
Romanian deadlift, 60kg x 10 reps x 5 sets

Goodmornings, 30 x 12 x 5

Stiff-legged deadlift, 60 x 10 x 5

Deadlift, 80 x 10 x 5

Pull-up, bw x 3,
bw x 4,
bw x 4

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Info / News Items / Announcements / Re: adding a photo
« on: January 23, 2012, 07:13:19 am »
Hi Sage,

From the menu in the top left of the screen, you need to go to profile > forum profile. There you will see the option to upload a picture file.

Looking forward to seeing you soon!

Mark

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Journals / Re: Mark's food log
« on: January 21, 2012, 05:02:22 am »
8am: 7 ripe bananas,
9am: workout
11am: 300g beef heart, 150g liver
3pm: half a butternut squash
7pm: 1 head romaine lettuce, 400 g lean beef, 100 g suet

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Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Today's workout?
« on: January 21, 2012, 04:53:00 am »
Overhead Press: 40 kg x 5 reps x 1 set,
45 x 5 x3,
30 x 15 x 2,
30 x 14

Pull-up, bw x 8,
bw x 6 x 2,
bw x 4

Sit-up, 5 x 20 x 5

Goodmorning, 20 x 15 x 4,
20 x 20

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Journals / Mark's food log
« on: January 20, 2012, 04:52:15 am »
9am: 4 ripe bananas
10am: work-out
11.30am: 500g brisket, 100g suet
3.30pm: steak sandwich and chips (eating at restaurant with friend)
7pm: 200g beef heart, 100g beef liver

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Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Today's workout?
« on: January 20, 2012, 03:08:35 am »
Warm up: barefoot treadmill jog for 1km

Squat: 80 x 5 x 3,
85 x 5 x 1,
60 x 10 x 2,
60 x 12 x 2
65 x 15 x 1

Chin-ups, bw x 8 x1
bw x 7 x 1,
bw x 5 x 2

Hanging leg raise, bw x 8 x 3

Sit up, bw x 20,
5 x 15 x 3

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: examples of raw animal fat
« on: January 19, 2012, 08:18:06 pm »
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What is the reason fat is so important?  I would think eating fat would add fat to my body, which I do not really need. 

Dorothy is absolutely right, most people who try zero carb will tell you that fat is essential. Eating protein alone will lead to protein poisoning. However, there is some debate about how much fat is needed. Lex eats 70-80% of calories from fat it seems. If you were eating some veg or even a small amount of fruit you would not need such a high proportion of fat, but with zero carb a high proportion of fat is essential. You will get some fat from lean meats but probably not enough. You can get adequate fat from eating a range of fatty cuts of meat, organs and overt fats such as bone marrow and suet. Fat is so important because it's a source of energy, fat-soluble vitamins, and essential fatty acids.

Eating fat will not make you fat unless you are eating far above your requirements. Fat storage has more to do with your hormones like insulin. Sugars and starches are what make us fat by raising our insulin levels.

All meats are chewable! Chuck is quite a tough meat but not as tough as two of my favourite cuts, brisket and shin. Buffalo brisket and shin are even more delectable than beef. Eating them is quite straightforward, I just chop them up into bite size pieces, chew a little (the flavour is delicious) and swallow. The part you can't chew is collagen but if it is cut up small there is no problem to swallow it.

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Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Today's workout?
« on: January 19, 2012, 07:03:45 am »
Warm up: ran for 8 mins on treadmill, barefoot

I do warm-up sets for all exercises but only record the work sets:

Squat: 80 x 5  x 3, then 60 x 8 x2
Bench Press: 60 x 8 x 5
Barbell Row: 60 x 10 x 4
Sit ups: bodyweight (bw) x 20 x 5
Chins: bw x 8, bw x 7, bw x 5, bw x 4.

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Thank you Esmee, you have taught me something new. I never knew about the uric acid from breakdown of frucose and that we differ in our fructokinase levels. I had intuitively figured out that lots of fruit in the diet wasn't working for me but now I understand a little more why that is. I will check out that book by Richard Johnson. I think a small about of high-quality fruit is useful in the diet as a source of micronutrients but the evidence does seem to point to fruit not being a huge proportion of the paleo diet. Paleo people would have made dietary choices based on factors such as availability and satiety. Fruits are available for a limited time and when ripe are difficult to collect and transport. They also have a short period of ripeness, lack the fat which causes satiety, contain sugars which create hunger pangs, and are protein deficient. That is probably why they do not seem to be a major part of the diets of modern hunter-gathers.

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General Discussion / Re: Brix and health
« on: January 19, 2012, 06:40:44 am »
Cheri,

I'm just trying to understand how we can use brix values. Obviously higher brix is better for any given fruit, but can we compare two different types of fruits based on brix values. For example, you mentioned that you do well when refusing to eat fruit with brix values of less than 12. Does this mean that you avoid all non-sweet fruits, such as avocado, tomato, lemon, and lime?

12 seems to be the upper limit for the non-sweet fruits. By contrast, even a poor quality sweet fruit, such as pineapple, will have a brix greater than 12. (http://www.flavoralchemy.com/journal/the-brix-of-sweet-fruit.html).

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General Discussion / Re: Storing organs...
« on: January 19, 2012, 05:42:48 am »
I haven't tried hanging but I have kept livers, tongue, kidney and heart on a plate in my fridge for up to 10 days and they were fine. Probably hanging will help them stay fresh even longer.

Van's method of skinning the tongue is perfect but probably requires a very sharp fillet knife. If you can't manage it, you can slice the tongue into a few segments widthwise, then turn those on the side and chop off the skin with two or three slices.

I like to chop the tongue into bite-sized pieces as it's tough to tear with the teeth. I only chop the amount I'm using that day though, as I find chopped-up tongue, just like marrow and suet, will dry out quickly and lose its texture and taste if left in the fridge.

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Greetings, paleo people
« on: January 19, 2012, 04:59:37 am »
Hey George, I'm glad to hear your mum is actually encouraging/challenging you try raw meat. That will make things much easier. Who buys the food in your house? Do you think the rest of your family might be interested in switching from grainfed to grassfed meats? Do you have access to farmers' markets and online stores?

Regarding obstacles, I find I am not tempted at all by non raw paleo food. My body is satisfied so I don't get unhealthy cravings. My only temptation is giving in to societal pressures.

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Greetings, paleo people
« on: January 18, 2012, 07:12:26 pm »
Hi George, welcome to the forum. Hope you find it as useful as I have. I am always saddened when I hear of young people, particularly adolescent boys, who are following a vegan or vegetarian diet. I did that myself and I know from experience it can have a detrimental effect on your physical and mental development. So I'm glad to hear you're over that stage. I wish I had known about the raw paleo diet when I was a teenager.

Don't worry too much about eating at school. Tell your close friends and see what they think. If you've got good friends they'll probably think it's cool. Then you start eating raw meat around them. If they don't, they are probably closed-minded and best not to hang around. But if you want to stay friends with them, just don't mention the raw meat thing again and they will forget about it.

There are lots of things you can eat at school, like fruits, vegetables, honey and nuts. With this diet it is also easy as others have said to consume enough calories in two or even just one meal a day, so you may not need to eat during lunch hour. I also sometimes do a sabertooth and just find myself a quiet spot where I can bolt down some meat without being disturbed.

How do your parents feel about you doing a raw paleo diet? That could be a crucial factor in whether you can do it successfully.

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General Discussion / Re: Grassfed vs grainfed marrow?
« on: January 18, 2012, 06:52:22 pm »
I've had trouble locating a cheap source of grassfed bone marrow. Best reliable source I have costs me £5 per bone (4 - 5 kg), including shipping costs. Yesterday I went to a local butcher and got a big grainfed marrow bone (chopped in half) for just £1. It weighed almost 6 kg but I was able to extract only 150 g of marrow. It tasted quite disgusting compared to grassfed marrow. I felt sick after eating it and it didn't digest well. Won't be doing that again. It seems the grain in the cows diet dramatically lowers the quality of the fats like marrow. I can eat small amounts of grainfed beef muscle meat without any significant issues, although the taste is not as good as grassfed and there is a higher risk of infections.

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