why u ask

maybe he was lying

No, he never named them, I would have to recheck the video where he mentions ''his close friends try the raw paleo diet''

maybe he was just lying because he doesnt like the paleo people

well paul nison did an interview with stanley bass, and it was the most informative thing ive come across compared to the raw vegan interviews

He himself used to be a fruitarian, raw vegan, in his words, he was 'everything', tried all the diets.

And now reccomends a basic raw paleo diet and vegetables and clean meat, eating minimal amounts of food, doing regular fasting and rest for optimal health, and not eating before sleep etc

So I go with the Stanley Bass way of eating, and he reccomends no fruit, but getting your 'calories' from fat, like coconut oil, olive oil, meat etc, much better for energy than fruit.

So yes, to answer you, I did learn something from them.

doug graham is another

   Whose name?  Whose posts?  Where?  Could you be a little specific?

    Once you start eating paleo (RAF), you should start expressing yourself more clearly.  I notice some of the fruitarians expressing themselves more like you.

durianriders of course, so I could read his posts on this forum

Well, I also don't think it bodes to well to have topics dedicated to this guy so often, who is already known to pop in and share a bunch of bs. Just seems to be inviting trouble.

I'll be somewhat hypocritical and add my two sense however:

I disagree about the biker comparisons as even in the pic that was selected, the thin guy has more muscle tone/vascularity. With fruit based diets (not all veg) there is a tendency not only to be thin/undermuscled but to have a very doughy smoothed out look. Theres a veg on other forums who specifically links this with toxicity of metals and other internal and fungal issues. He claims the human body should be naturally vascular, with near translucency of outer tissue, and going on pics I've seen of healthy cultures I tend to agree. The main problem is not only the deficiency of proteins and fats, but the false promises to actually eliminate deep toxicity. Theres plenty proof that even vegans can be bodybuilders and run races on sugar (although not at competing levels), but that especially fruit based diets, are taking their tole in many differnt aspects whose earliest signs are irritability/mania/euphoria and inability to put on weight or create (not maintain) muscle tone. This is not simply an issue deficiency, as cooked or 'balanced' raw veg diets don't always create the same issues.

Forthehunt, is that your pic?

whats his username/posts

i make a simple of soup of simply boiling celery and adding in a carrot

if I made the same soup with mashed up chicken bones, which is higher in minerals ?

because i heard celery is high in minerals also, and I heard it was a good way to get them in my diet since i am deficient at the moment

sheep and goat butter/ cheeses okay ?

And if not cheese, the butter ? the butter is the good stuff I heard that really gives your body the nutrition

i read you should avoid dairy because of the lactose, except butter

So the rule is, avoid all dairy EXCEPT grass fed butter ? which doesnt produce the mucous etc ?

well, the truth is im just trying to eat better than my previous SAD

I have my own health goals, like keratosis pilaris, dry skin, bad eyesight, my red cheeks, dyness all over body, low functioning thyroid, slight heavy metal toxicity.

I lived a junk food diet all my life, trying to make changes step by step, addicted to bread, crisps and chocolate still.

what about seeds in general ? chia seeds, pumpkin seeds etc etc ? why arent they cereal grains ?

okay, which is worse, grains or raw dairy

ok

so what should happen to all the grains in the world , assuming everyone ate a paleothic diet ? make them into clothes ?