Another forum I'm on had this discussion - it was claimed that if you use firefox there are addons that will let you download the mp3 that's "behind" a flash application.

net video hunter and flashgot were mentioned 

    Will there be MP3s available of it?  Wow. 

  see what they want to see, not what is written.  I tend to do this myself.  I suppose it is human nature

It's far worse, more generalized and pervasive than just reading

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

The stone is more like an open crystal structure with sharp points and small needle like projections.  It scrapes its way through ureters and urethera shredding tissue along the way.  The only way I can describe the pain is to think of very slowly ripping your stomach open with the point of an ice pick while continuosly pouring alcohol on the wound.  The pain is relentless and can continue at an intense level for hours at a time.

Lex

boy oh boy.  Thanks for the technical info, and my pupils shrunk to near zero, and most of my scrotum and penis retracted completely into my abdomen in sympathetic pain

I would think zero carb is better.   Like Moshe Feldenkrais used to say (in a completely different context) - it gets better when you use your whole body.    Just as a general principle, spreading the "damage" out over the whole body instead of limiting it to the liver.    We don't see the glycation effects on the liver because the standard tests don't measure that.  

I thought your guess that you're eating some of this material (HBA1c) was right on the money.  

The whole thing reminds me of a hyperlipid post a little while ago where Peter wrote that when you eat a high fat meal you absorb your dead gut bacteria's gram negative proteins.  If you eat a high carb meal you absorb none of the gram negative dead residue.  

Well, the residue is "bad" for you - not as bad as if you had a gram negative bacterial infection, but still bad.

Turns out your immune system uses the digested gram negative material to gauge what's happening in your gut.  On high carb the immune system is denied this information.  

bleeding,
Interesting ideas about HbA1c.  Not sure what the practical implications are howerver.  If HbA1c is a true indication of total glycation products, and we want to keep these products low, then maybe the effects of eating ZC is counter productive.  It seems to be sort of a catch-22.  If we eat a normal high carb diet then over time we get pathological insulin resistance and HbA1c rises.  If we eat ZC then we get physiolgical insulin resistance and HbA1c rises.  Wonder if this supports the idea that LC or VLC is the better approach?

Thoughts?

Lex

I bet in the end it's just like ketosis - if you're diabetic it's something to watch closely.  If you're not diabetic it's interesting information, but nothing to fuss over.  

One reason high-carb eaters are insulin resistant is the constant high levels of insulin make the muscles reduce the number of insulin receptors.  The opposite is likely true for you.

I believe if you ate carbs again you would have about a week of hardship because some of your digestive and other carbohydrate-handling enzymes have down-regulated.   After a week your insulin resistance would disappear quickly (doesn't take long for the palmitic acid and ketones to get flushed out of the blood)   and you would be extremely insulin sensitive.   Your pancreas has probably had a great vacation too, having to put out a small fraction of the "normal" output.  

The low-fat dieter is insulin resistant for a long time to come.