AV is a bloody fool as regards his raw dairy stance. He has made similiar moronic, utterly false, claims such as the notion that mixing raw honey with raw milk makes it OK to consume for those with lactose-intolerance and so on.  The fact is, my own allergies towards raw dairy have stayed the same despite being almost a decade into going rawpalaeo, so I have good reason to doubt this mindless Aajonism.

Exactly.First of all milk is designed to be baby food ONLY.Look at the animal world.Once they are weaned,do you see any of them go back to their mothers for milk?No
Of course,in our society,we will bottle it up and sell it as the healthiest product in the world for everybody.One of the biggest dietary scams ever.Raw or otherwise.This is one of the reasons I'm not the biggest AV fan.Even though I've met him and he had a positive influence on me,his salesmanship of dairy and honey(which are both sweet as heck by the way) turned me in a different direction.

    I know people who swear by the raw milk cure diet, 100% raw milk and no other food.  They do it for months, some even for a couple of years.

Good luck if you're lactose intolerent

IMO that doesn't really matter, because there are plethora of bald men who are much healthier and who live longer than those who have got hair. The same is with the colour of hair.

Yeah,I mean Ronald Reagan had the best hair I've ever seen.And how was his health?

I'd be willing to bet that Jack dyes his hair.Fake orange color is a dead give away But,at least the hair is real.

I tried salmon skin as well.Too tough and scaly I'm not that freaking radical

there is a raw ground beef recipe (I forget the name) you can get.

Steak Tartare.Heavenly delicious

We can not sell something as radical as this, you must try it and see for yourself.

Now,that's what I'm talkinabout !

Couple of points:-

1) This whole business of "selling a diet" is ridiculous. We are not a cult, nor is there any real incentive for us to persuade people who are not all that interested in our diets.

2)   Actually, the best thing one can do is to read through the entire message-archives of rawpaleoforum and related RVAF diet forums.

I agree,one should do their "research" first.Secondly,they might want to experiment with the diet for a while and see how they feel.

I remember when I joined a tennis club,nobody had to "sell" me on being interested in playing tennis

I have not been to the doctor in the past year and I will not take an antibiotic unless I am dieing. I blame antibiotics for allot of my past fungal issues. Whenever I would go to the doctor with chronic infections they would just write out for an antibiotic and send me on my way.

Yeah,when I took tetracycline as a kid it gave me yellow teeth.What a deal I later bleached them to make them reasonably white again.I wish there was a way to measure any improvements,if any,we make in lowering the quantity of fungus/candida.
When I fasted I had the most die off...BUT unfortunately at the time I was a believer in juicing.When I ended the fast I started juicing(fruits not steroids..lol)thinking that was the best way to eat.Of course all I wound up doing was re-feeding the fungus/candida Man,if I knew then what I know now.

I've been ZC or VLC for over 6 months now, i still have some candida symptoms. I don't expect to be at maximum health for a few years, nor should you, Systemic candida is serious stuff and takes a long time to heal. I've been reading the Candida forum on curezone for like 10 years, 100 000+ posts, and i've never heard of anyone being cured with a quick fix. In fact, the very rare cure testimonials on candida forums, it's usually from people who went raw while the rest of the people who take antifungals, supplements, etc never get better. That's pretty much how i'd sum up candida forums. I really need to experiment with high-meat to see if it'd speed up my recovery.

Nation,did you check out Bee Wilder's site as well?

I'm on that diet as well, i guess we need to come up with our own name. How about Raw Meat-Organ diet? There can't be any confusion with that name.

Yes,I agree.The only thing is,is that I also eat cucumbers.So,I'm going to have to stick to RVLC

Thanks Phil.But what's Raw Meat No Dairy/No Lactose called? One reason I actually like the term ZC is because it's a great term for those who are on a "Candida Diet".It takes out all the sugars(from fruits,dairy or honey).That's my perception of it anyway.

Yes,fat becomes the primary energy source and when ratio is too high,one can gain weight.This has been established.Even if protein can be turned to glucose it's more of an alternate/secondary energy source than a weight gain factor.And,if it influences weight gain at all,it wouldn't be a major factor.At least,that's my understanding.Feel free to clarify with Lex.

Interesting stuff.So I take it the Caveman forum is cooked Paleo? And the vegan person posted on a carnivore forum?

I wonder how a "carnivore" would be received on a vegan forum?

What I find interesting is that RPD'ers at least seem to have one common goal: health
All the other "health diet" sites seem to always have ulterior motives:politics,spirituality,joining "fads"...etc.