just skinned it. the hide actually looks really nice and soft! gonna dry it now. i also gutted it. the stomach contents had no sign of trash or anything. looked just like a brown mush with a few hard white bits (bone maybe?). the liver also looked very clean. it looks like a really clean animal from what i can tell. nothing alarming about it really. but im still not sure. i'll probably just put it in a bag in my refrigerator until i decide whether or not to eat it.

thanks for the advice guys. i realize it's very small and not really worth the effort, but i am just really intrigued by wild natural animal products. maybe i'll even end up cooking it if i can't bring myself to eat it raw... or make some very small pieces of jerky, ha

So you are really scared of them, arent' you?

ha, i knew someone would say that. even after 2 and a half years eating all kinds of raw meat with no problems, yes, i guess im a little afraid of possible parasites in mice. this is kinda like the last step i could take: raw meat, raw insects, raw organs, high meat, and now raw rodents. haha. hannibal, would you just eat the mouse whole or what? have you eaten mouse before? has anyone? i know sully's had raw squirrel which is similar i guess but mice don't have as clean a diet i think. they eat more trash and stuff than squirrels. maybe i'll cut open it's stomach to see what it's been eating

Yon tried this when he was sick.
Funny he found it delicious.

yes, it was amazingly tasty! i thought it would suck (a lot) because i'd never really liked any kind of green juice. delicious though. but then (if i remember correctly) i drank it again the next day and it wasn't very appetizing. tasty if you need it, but don't force it down just because.

to clarify, i wasn't literally like obsessing over wanting to eat some pecans. they were there, i ate some, they tasted good, so i ate more. and more frequently. this is totally natural in my opinion. so if you're saying this is somehow unhealthy or something then we'll just have to agree to disagree.

i think all wild animals 'crave' foods at different times of the year as part of their survival instinct. so i dunno, labeling all raw wild food cravings as addictions seems pretty inaccurate.

yeah, this all sounds great man.

you've definitely out 'varried' me even though I am trying.

did you grate the jicama?

thanks kd, i try

i just cut the skin off the jicama and ate it like an apple. those things are deliciously juicy

pecans grow wild in central texas. they're everywhere. i could literally go out and pick a pound of them in about half an hour if i really wanted. i've been eating them a lot recently (read about 15 whole pecans at a sitting maybe two or three times a week, so not THAT much) with no apparent problems, but i think it's just a passing thing. meat still works best for me. i just don't see why i wouldn't eat nuts if they're local, free, and tasty. i don't soak them either. i don't think paleo peoples did either. so what, there are some anti nutrients. it's not like they're a staple or anything. they're totally seasonal. and i think im getting something out of them that's hard to get from other sources because i've been craving them. maybe magnesium? i dunno

edit: i will say though, the pecans have been breed to bear larger nuts that are much easier to get the meat out of. the truly wild and unadulterated pecan trees the i've seen out in the hill country have small nuts that are extremely difficult to extract the meat from. not impossible but very time consuming. so, with that in mind, nuts (well i guess i can only say this about pecans) probably weren't anywhere near a staple for the paleo-indians of texas.

damnit, i wanted to buy the feelmax kuuvas for winter. apparently i can't buy them in the US. any help? extremeoutfitters told me the don't have any more in stock (despite it still being on their website) and don't plan on reordering. anyone know how else i can get them? thanks

donrad, just curioius, what makes you think home made fermented veggies are any less dangerous than home made fermented meat?

FUCK that. then they're gonna start spraying them with nanobots that kill germs... and pass easily into your organs... and kill you. beware of the nanoparticles already being used in sunscreen. they can travel straight through your skin unhindered

And why that is seems very obvious; after all, raw meat is harder to chew and harder to cut than cooked.  If it take more energy to break down with a knife and with teeth, it must take more energy for the stomach to break it down.

interesting, i find it the exact opposite. it is MUCH easier for me to chew raw meat than cooked. and cutting it is much easier too. almost no effort. raw digests much faster for me as a result. my stomach is empty after about an hour after eating raw meat. it takes nearly 3 or 4 hours for cooked. this is all my personal experience. it's almost as if you haven't really tried eating raw meat...

you might be interested to read sungazer's other thread: http://www.rawpaleoforum.com/health/severe-diarrhea/

she claims to have recovered and sees it as a detox. but take that with a grain of salt.

i can tell you that i have never had an issue with high meat. i've made it from beef, chicken, and fish. no problems. and i got some digestive benefits

i think it's a combination of gs's and yuli's points:

-it allowed people to get more calories out of the same animal because they could cook out the small bits and pieces left between bones and cartilage and stuff making a soup.

-it also just tastes good.