I wouldn't go from LC to high-carb suddenly.  Probably give yourself at least 2 weeks to transition.

And the reason for that is ____________

The following statement is from a vegan medical doctor.  (I do respect his opinions on certain health issues.) It is opinions from such scientists that make me worry about my new RP diet...whether consuming meat long-term is beneficial ...

Will someone present a valid/science-based counter argument to his argument?  I will really appreciate. Thanks.

A high animal protein diet is likely to teach your body to digest (break down, destroy) animal proteins such as muscle (meat). Although a younger person can overcome this with a lot of exercise, in due course it tends to weaken the muscles. It also makes your body very protein dependent so that all the proteins in your body (muscle as well as collagen) become "targets" for digestion. This will increase the turnover of these tissues. The more a tissue has been turned over, the older it is (each cell can divide only a finite number of times.. read about the telomeres).

Thus I will remain vegetarian/vegan…On the long term I believe this will slow down the aging process relative to a diet rich in animal...

Thanks Joy, great information and recipes

I personally don't think that LowCarb is a pinnacle of paleo diet (gasp!)

For me the pinnacle is - eat the way body evolved to eat. I believe our ancestors ate as much carbohydrate as they could get at any opportunity. During some seasons they ate a lot of fruits, berries, but they didn't stop eating high carb tubers whole year around. I also think that they started cooking tubers as soon as they managed fire as it increases amount of energy you get from them dramatically.

Your diet seems amazing but it painfully lacks carbs in my opinion. Fermented dairy doesn't seem like a culprit to me.

If you want to try the beef recipe, note that all the spices should be in dried forms; otherwise the dish would be too wet. Also if you place the minced beef (spread out in a plate) in the dehydrator for more than one hour, the top will be “browned” and taste sort of crispy.

Thank you for your thougths on carbs. I may have to go back to carbs during my stay in Taiwan...

http://www.13.waisays.com/plants.htm

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/224159-Plants-Bite-Back-The-Surprising-All-Natural-Anti-Nutrients-and-Toxins-in-Plant-Foods

Tyler, thanks. I browsed the articles. They distressed me… So fruit and veggies do not exist primarily for the purpose of serving our appetites and health.

From these two articles, it seems to me that fruit is much better than veggies?

Thank, Tyler. Do you have a short article that explains anti-nutrients?

Thanks to all who are going to diagnose me and give me valuable advice.

Before January 2012 my diet was very-high-raw vegan (90+%) plus a little cooked seafood (2%).  I also ate a little bit of  miscellaneous food, mostly considered healthy by society.

Since late January 2012, My diet has been like this:
(1)    Truly raw Gruyere cheese from local pastured cows (almost 1/3 of my diet; that is horrible now I know)
(2)    100% grass-fed beef from Whole Foods ( minced in my food processor with raw coconut cream, coconut oil, lemon juice and lots of raw organic garlic/onion/cilantro/ginger plus a little store-bought cooked organic spices, warmed up in my dehydrator at 115 F;  I really love this dish)
(3)    Wild caught Alaskan salmons (smaller whole salmons, which are cheaper than fillets; processed the same way as my beef dish)
(4)    Truly raw cream from pastured cows at a local farm (often fermented into sour cream)
(5)    Raw organic walnuts, soaked and dehydrated

That is the bulk of my diet. Occasionally I have wild caught shrimps/scallops (from Whole Foods), bison from Slankers, organic produce (avocados, melons, apples, cauliflower, Romaine lettuce), organic decaf. coffee, organic herbal teas. I also tried some organs and bone marrow from Slanker's; I like liver/heart but I seldom eat them because of the difficulty of getting them. (So far I only ordered from Slankers once. I mostly shop at local grocers. )  I eat raw whenever possible (coconut oil/spices are not raw). I seldom use salt.

I have been low carb or very low carb on most days, because it appears to me LC/VLC is the pinnacle of RP diet. (I seldom test ketogenic though, as far as I can tell. It seems my body uses up all the ketones...or I eat too much protein)  I adopted LC because I wanted to find out as soon as possible whether RP is better than raw vegan.

I bumped into this forum accidentally in late December 2011. I was just looking for a raw forum which would give me permission to eat raw cheese and I was tired of listening to raw vegans’ “eating dairy/fish is un-ethical” accusation.  When I read the testimonials of the members on this forum, I decided RP is worth a try. I totally switched from raw vegan to RP within a month.

I have never had any serious health issues. I haven't seen a doctor since my childhood days. (Yes I have good health insureance but I am too lazy to go to the hospital for regular check-up.) Actually I have not had a cold/flu for more than one decade since I adopted a mostly raw vegan diet. But I do not feel energetic. And I do not look healthy these past couple of years (pale tired vegan look). These are the two areas I hoped to see improvement through my new RP diet.

I do not feel different now as compared to 2011. I do not seem to look different. (But I do not look at myself in the mirror often.)

I do enjoy my RP diet. Now I plan to lay aside dairy for four months and see if my beloved cheese is the offender. [As I am going to spend my summer in Taiwan where there is no raw dairy, this abstinence from raw dairy will be easy to carry out.]

Thanks to all who help me gain a proper perspective on AGE.

I do regret that I ate tons of cream and cheese (very high in AGE)  in the past few months, although they were truly raw dairy from pastured cows.   Maybe this is the reason that I have not seen improvement in my health since I started RP diet early this year.

I find this AGE table presents me with lots of problems that are against common sense. For example:

(1)   Raw beef (100g) has 707 KU AGE ; while corned brisket beef (deli meat) has only 199
(2)   Salad dressing, Italian, lite (Diet Source, Novartis Nutr Corp)  has 0 AGE
(3)   Fresh tuna baked for 25 minutes has 919 KU AGE; Canned chunk light tuna w/ water  has 452 AGE. Doesn't canned fish go through high-heat cooking?
(4)   Soy burger, Boca Burger, microwaved, 1.5 min (BOCA Foods Co)  has 67 KU AGE; while raw tofu has 788 AGE.
(5)   Bread, white, Italian, center (Freihoffer’s, Bimbo Bakeries, Horsham, PA) has 23 KU AGE; Dinner roll (inside) has 23 KU AGE.
(6)   Puffed wheat (breakfast cereal) has 17 KU AGE .
(7)   Rice, Uncle Ben’s white, cooked, 35 min (Mars, Inc, Houston, TX) has 9 KU AGE.        White sugar and aspartame have 0 AGE. Coke has 2.8 AGE. Coffee has 1.6 AGE.

Does that mean processed cooked rice,  lite Italian salad dressing,  puffed wheat, white Italian bread, sugar, aspartame, coke, coffee, and dinner roll are good for health as they produce few AGE?


Tyler, your defense for grass-fed animal food provides me with some comfort.

This has a lot more foods covered, and is the source of Loren Cordain I think:

http://marshfieldceliac.weebly.com/uploads/2/5/5/7/2557865/ada_ages_in_food_reduction1.pdf

Maybe not.

In the study of your link,  100g of Fried Egg has 2,749 KU of AGE.  That is VERY different from Cordain's table.


Does anyone has the information on the AGE content of coconut oil?

Ferocious, yes and no.

My understanding is that God the Father is inviting you to become one of the eternal companions of God the Son (Jesus Christ) and to be Jesus’ little brother. God created us to become His big Family, to enjoy His infinite love and riches throughout eternity.
I believe that if the Gospel message could be explained clearly with the echoes of heaven, everyone would rush to grasp it.

God’s purpose for sending Jesus Christ into the world (to be crucified on the Cross for all men's sins) is not to condemn us, but to save/bless us. Every thought of God towards you (as a unique individual person) is for good and not for evil, because you were created in the likeness of God and God loves you with infinite love.

I think the most misunderstood person in the whole universe is God. Even after 20+ years of relationship, I am still discovering new facets of God’ s heart which is good beyond my wildest imagination.

Please read the first four books (the Four Gospels) of the New Testament carefully and you will see Jesus reveals God's heart of love and compassion to the whole world.  It is to a man's infinite loss when he chooses to refuse God's offer of love and help.

Thank you for the information, Dorothy. Last year I purchased some refrigerated raw cacao pieces from Natural Grocers. I will check to see if NG still carries it as it is near to my home.  If not, I will check out Essential Living Foods.   Central Market used to carry whole raw cacao but it has been discontinued.

I never thought I might "need" chocolate physically. I thought I just got addicted to the delicious taste of chocolate. Now let's see if raw cacao may fix me

aLptHW4k4y, many many threads in this RP forum ended up off topic.  Please browse the forum and you will find that I am speaking the truth.   I think that is a beauty of this forum: People feel free to discuss anything related to health which they find interesting, as long as the conversation is carried in a civil and respectful manner.

GS, thank you for the VCO detox information. I will keep the information in mind.
On the other hand, I am not sure my chocolate addiction means I have fungi / yeast / candida. I have been doing low carb for a couple of months. I seldom eat high-carb foods and I do not crave them.