Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: How much meat are you guys eating on a daily basis?
« on: September 18, 2009, 02:56:06 pm »I calculated that I usually eat 130-180 g of protein and 300-400 g of fat.
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the skin covering the testicle is VERY tough..Yes it is, but I don't eat it - I eat just the flesh
making high meat?After one-week-aging they're already quite strong
after all). Raw testicles can be very tough to eat so cut them up into tiny slices.Raw lamb testicles are very soft and easy to eat - there is hardly any chewing
By definition, most people turn to raw diets precisely because they do worse on cooked foods than on raw, so you're in a minority. I'll accept a sizeable proportion of raw, zero-carbers given the palaeo nature of this forum, but , taking all raw diets into account(the ones with raw animal foods in them), you'll find, inevitably, that most do OK or fine on raw carbs(if not eaten in truly vast amounts) but do much worse on cooked foods.No, I'm not in minority, as I do better with raw animal protein and fat, but on the other hand I do digest cooked ones quite well, without any stomach aches; but I definitely do better with low-carb than high-carb, and, as I see, most of the people on this forum made major improvements after switching even to cooked low-carb
Interesting stuff...presumably the krill oil was heated and you accepted that? Or have you found a raw source?I think that Tyler was talking about this kind of krill oil - http://www.red23.co.uk/Krill-Oil-Pure-Antarctic-NKO_p_769.html
I have many times been forced to go on weeks-long carb-binges(well raw fruit) when high-quality meat sources were difficult to obtain or for social reasons). I found no harm to my health as a result, yet, I have suffered a great deal from eating cooked animal foods, especially cooked animal fats(negligible effects from cooked plant foods). So, I am perfectly well aware that high carb is not an issue, whereas going for cooked animal food is far worse. If it weren't that my food-costs would be even higher if I ate far more carbs, I wouldn't mind going for Instincto-like diets(80% raw plant foods, 20% raw animal foods) -plus, of course, I'd spend too much of my time eating - at least with raw animal fats like suet, appetite is quickly dulled within 5 minutes.But you're not statistically representative, if I may say so
People have been consuming cooked animal fats for thousands of years, yet western diseases were rare to nonexistant, until only recently...But there were many other dangerous diseases that people were prone to. They were not so healthy, although healthier than contemporary people.
VERY LITTLE is wrong with US health-care. The primary area of concern is COST, not quality.It is a lot of wrong with simply every health-care system in the entire world. Doctors are pharmaceutical-industry-related, they are not trained to eliminate the real causes of the diseases. The longer they treat the patients the more money they earn.
Re gurus:- It stands to reason that if a diet is any good that the guru would do it for the rest of his life and gain benefits therefrom rather than dropping dead from heart-attacks etc.. The fact that cooked, low-carb gurus have led such unhealthy lives is a clear indication of the relative ill-health those diets involve. Just take a look at Stefansson's aged face on the Internet and you'll see what I mean re negative results.96-year-old Wolfgang Lutz, the author of "Life without bread", who successfully treated thousends of patients using low-carb diet - http://www.easyvigour.net.nz/diettoxin/plutz.jpg
Several meals during 4-5 hours is not one meal a day.No, it isn't, if you want to be precise. But it is what IF means - you eat during several hours at the end of the day, so there could be even 10 or 20 meals; it doesn't matter
But I doubt that overeating is good for people with compromised digestion. I find difficult to assimilate enough food on one meal a day to sustain my daily needs.Why are you saying that there must be an overeating when you eat one large meal at the end of the day?
I know not what caused your son's illness, but think that focussing on the germ is a mistake. I agree with Béchamp and Vonderplantiz that germs are an opportunist infection, not a cause.I think the same way.
There have been so many near-miraculous cures from people who do raw zero carb that I would be tempted to try it.
I repeat : there is very little quantity of AGEs and ALEs in raw food, even aged for several monthsHave you got any proof that there is little AGEs in high meats? I don't say that you are wrong, but I'm just curious
Anybody looked into the Man is like a Vulture Scavenger thing?There are quite many proofs that Man evolved as a scavenger - at the beginning he ate primarily brain and marrow from carrions, that were left by some other predators
No, there is no sugar in raw meat, otherwise it would taste sweet.Yes there are trace amounts of carbs in meat. Try horse meat and you'll see, that it is lightly sweet
I wonder if a rawpaleo diet is appropriate to put on excessive muscles ?It's appropriate to put on natural musculature, that can be very impressive
(...) if late Lower to Middle Paleothic people (around 300 - 500 thousand years ago) didn't heat foods with fire, how did they get drinking water in frozen winter lands like the Siberian tundra and Northern Europe?The answer is simple - they dwelt in regions of Central Africa
not sure about the calcium in marrow, but i wouldn't worry about specific intakes of minerals and such. if you're eating RPD, things tend to take care of themselves without too much manipulation required.Yeah, that's true but this is when one is eating RPD; dairy isn't paleo and quite many people didn't feel good when they ate it
Yes, there is lutein in the organs and egg yolks of chickens that eat lutein-containing plants, and animal sources of lutein are actually the most bioavailable (see below), as with most nutrients.Yeah, you are right
I don't know whether people do better with berries in the diet or not. I hope so as I love berries. Do you have evidence to support your claim that the majority do?I said that people generally do better with some carbs in their diet than with zero-carb. All the Polish people that I know, who experimented with zero-carb, eventutally realized that this not for them, that they do better even with a little bit of carbs (e.g. 20-30 g).