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Welcoming Committee / Re: Heelo All
« on: August 23, 2009, 09:05:41 am »
coool mma fighter. let us know how you do. Yeah the changes are cool to go through huh!

for sure man  i can't wait to see where im at in a month, a year, etc.

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Heelo All
« on: August 23, 2009, 09:04:04 am »
Hello, I am a fellow bloodthirsty ZC barbarian savage. ;D

lol  nice to meet you  you savage you  lol

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Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Ultimate Martial Arts
« on: August 23, 2009, 08:57:34 am »
Yes, it has a proven track record.

I'm not sure I'd use the term "best" simply because it is not a complete system, but is a takedown & ground fighting system. But as such, it works wonderfully in conjunction with a system designed primarily for the stand-up game (boxing, muay thai, etc).

Have you seen any of the pancrase (by whatever spelling) guys? Essentially the above-mentioned stand & ground games fused into a single system. Cool stuff. It might be worth looking into (due to it's transition work) AFTER you spend some time working BJJ.

Check out Sakuraba (in his prime was known as "The Gracie Hunter").
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44E-lW3aYhM


I actually am an MMA fighter(very similar to pancrase). I'm a very dangerous striker but the 2 matches I've lost were by submission. It seems that once you have a reputation for knocking fighters out, then suddenly nobody wants to stand up fight with you any more. My last 4 fights have been a progression of better and better ground fighters who wanted nothing to do with my standup. The honest truth is, without what ground fighting skills I do have (rapidly improving), I would have lost every one of those fights. When a pure striker and a pure ground fighter clash, you should put your money on the ground fighter every time. I've learned this the hard way myself and seen it 100 times. My devastating striking stands a poor chance against a pure ju-jitsu guy. Thats why Gracie dominated the early UFC when all the different martial arts styles clashed. Which is why I say if you could only train at one form of martial arts, ju jitsu is your best bet. However with the evolution of mixed martial arts even a black belt in ju-jitsu isn't good enough. Now we have to be good at everything and ready for anything, which is AWESOME:-)      I love a huge challenge. My last fight was against a Gracie ju jitsu fighter who's won multiple grappling tournaments. My job was to keep it on the feet and his job was to get me to the ground and submit me.  He ducked a punch executed a good takedown, he had me in full mount but i threw him off because I'm a beast (literally the strongest light heavyweight fighter I've ever know of), but he transitioned onto some strange variation of a kimora so fast I had no chance, I faught his whole body with my arm, I was strong enough to resist an armbar so he switched it into a kimora which puts my arm in a very jeopardized position. It's supposed to dislocate my shoulder but my shoulder is too strong so I still didnt tap, then it dislocated my elbow and turned my forarm away from the rest of my arm in a rather interesting angle. I got to leave that fight in an ambulance, some people get broken bones and punctured blood vessels and nerve damage or blod clots from such a thing. Fortunately my tendons didn't snap they just got way overstretched to where they had to put a cast on me because my radius wouldn't even stay in the socket when the doc relocated it because the tendons were so loose lol. Keep in mind the guy who was able to do this to me could most likely not bench press or squat or dead lift much more than half the weight I can. He broke the stronger man using the amazing leverages that ju jitsu gives to a skilled user. I've seen more smaller or weaker guys beat stronger and  bigger guys with ju jitsu than anything else. This guy couldn't have hit me hard enough to knock me out or make me quit (I've taken a mauling from much bigger guys and never been knocked out) , he couldn't hold me down and ground n pound me or beat me up on the ground, his only option was to beat me with a submission. We both knew that going in and I honestly expected to win but with that darn ju jitsu he was able to make it happen still. You can know for sure that after this experience, the submission fighting aspect of my fighting game is going to be my main focus.

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Hot Topics / Re: Eating frequency
« on: August 23, 2009, 08:27:11 am »
Tallow is rendered suet or bone marrow--usually suet. Yes, I make my own low-temp jerky. The only gluten-free jerky I've ever seen offered for sale was priced around $50/lb, as I recall and commercial jerky is usually heated at too high temps and way too salty. I also make my own pemmican, as I much prefer it to the US Wellness brand, and it's cheaper. I render the tallow at low temps to keep it essentially raw. It means it can't be preserved for as long, but I make small batches that don't need to be preserved long anyway. So, no need for arguments over whether pemmican is sufficiently raw--it's a win-win.

My weight had fallen to 122 lbs several years ago while on a low-carb, moderate-fat Paleo diet that still included some stuff like nightshades and allegedly "Paleo" carbs like bananas (inedible during Paleo times) that I hadn't figured out I should eliminate yet. I've got it up to 133 now. Ironically, I was lifting weights when I weighed 122 lbs, including squats, pull-ups, shoulder press, bench press and dead lift, and I'm not now (for strength exercises I'm currently just doing calisthenics). In retrospect, I think the bad-for-me foods I was still eating (without knowing they were bad for me) were sickening me and offsetting any benefit of lifting. Another factor is that no one in my family has big muscles. Even though my grandfather was as strong as an iron rail, he was as thin as one too.

The female head trainer at the weight room I used was thin like me despite lifting enormous weights and being a champion lifter, and the same was true for one of the stars of the gym, a young boy who was also a champion lifter and nearly as thin as me. Seeing those folks was pretty demoralizing, as I was lifting to try to bulk up, not to win contests. One of the strange things is, they did some of the types of lifts that are supposed to bulk you up, like squats, and they lifted massive weights.

135 is what I weighed for most of my adult life. I'm not looking to become a body builder, but I would like to get it to 150, which is about what my father weighs (and he's a mostly-Paleo dieter)--so that seems feasible.

Right now I do calisthenics: push ups, bicycle maneuver, crunches (vertical leg, reverse, etc.), squats (standard, frog, toe), single-leg calf raises, dips, pelvic tilts. I mix it up some for variety.

I also try to incorporate exercise into my daily life: putting some sprints into my daily walk to and from work wearing a pack, taking the stairs instead of the elevator (5 flights), lugging stuff around at work instead of using push-carts, walking downtown, using rowboats and canoes/kayaks instead of motorboats, carrying groceries instead of using a shopping cart, etc.

I'm wondering what people think of these no-damage-to-door pull up bars that seem like they would be good for my apartment if they work:

http://www.malibuwholesale.com/Exercise-Fitness/Accessories/Deluxe-3-in-1-Door-Pull-p5914202.html
http://www.seriusfitness.com/Chin-Up-Bars/105/
http://www.jumpusa.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=J&Product_Code=DOORWAYGYM&cvsfa=1182&cvsfe=2&cvsfp=DOORWAYGYM

I also do a yoga pose or two now and then (such as eagle pose, toe stand, standing cow face arms) to check the progress in my balance, flexibility and joint strength and thus make sure I'm eating right (and to demonstrate to others some of the benefits that eating right have had for me), rather than as an exercise. I became unimpressed by yoga after trying it for some years. I had taken it up as a stress reliever, to relieve back pain, and to try to improve flexibility in some of my stiff muscles, but never noticed much benefit from it other than temporary relaxation. My balance and flexibility only improved very slightly after years of doing it, whereas both improved rapidly and dramatically when I later improved my diet while not doing any yoga. Also, my father is a retired Phys. Ed. professor with a degree in exercise physiology, who taught yoga among other things, and who taught me that some of the poses are counterproductive (which I further confirmed with some research of my own). So I only do poses that I consider physiologically appropriate.

Wearing flat/flexible-soled shoes has further strengthened my calves, arches and toes. I find myself popping up onto my toes unconsciously these days, as they are very strong now and it feels good to do it.




Wow, Tallow sounds like good stuff, can you advise me how to go about getting some?

Thats very interesting about the wrong foods keeping you from gaining muscle mass when you were lifting heavy. Somewhere on this forum I saw some info. about compounds in certain carbs doing damage to muscle proteins,   it sounds related. There are certain body types that just like to stay skinny (ectomorph) although they can become very strong. Good to hear that by eliminating certain unhealthy foods your body was able to add some muscle. That puts interesting theory's in my mind. At 150 pounds and actively athletic I'm wondering if you know approx. how many grams of protein and how many grams of fat you consume on ave. in a day.

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Health / Re: Are we hard core health hobbyists?
« on: August 22, 2009, 02:44:56 pm »
The medical industry has no incentive to cure because they don't get paid to cure you. They get paid to treat you. And when their drugs keep you week and sickly thay get paid to treat you more.

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I think its best we redirect debates about human origins in this thread.

What's your leading analysis / guess / hypothesis / theory / belief at this time?


I'm part alien. The cool thing is I can say that out loud and noone comes to take me away for expiriments cuz they don't believe me :-)

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Hot Topics / Re: Feeling SAD
« on: August 22, 2009, 02:03:06 pm »
I've been thinking about what you said, not just about the "food" craving, but about satiation / satisfaction in general. Unlike people who genuinely do not have food, we rich peoples are taught DO NOT EAT FAT, and blame our hunger on Mother, the Government, or some Other. We're sold psychotherapy, corn syrup, and Direct TV because we're starving and desperate and our brains don't work. This message is even louder if you're a woman.

Satisfied people are not good consumers.

I purchased generous portions of suet and fat when I bought meat today. Thank you for your insight on this.


Holy crap that was an insightful response! Very true.

As for the OP    that's like really sad, I feel it you have shared your sadness well, I hope you find the inner strength to not need anyone else caretaking you. After all you are the strong one if you are caretaking everyone else.

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Hot Topics / Re: Why NOT low carb?
« on: August 22, 2009, 01:54:26 pm »
Because you may as well go "low protein" or "low fat". It doesn't make evolutionary sense to try to quantify foods like that.

It's not what paleo man ate except in very occasional times. If you have metabolic syndrome or something and want to do it that's fine, but that's not paleo. *shrugs* It's not my fault. Low carb is something else. It's not very paleo-like to go counting carbs, or anything else.
 



If you love your carbs noone is gonna take em away from you. But the fact remains that they are an unnesesary nutrient. Man can thrive without carbs. Trying to go without protein or fat will result in death! And in paleo times there werent carbs to eat at every turn like there is now being promoted and sold to the general poulation because they are a cheap filler sourse of energy and once a person is hooked on them they will buy more  and more and more (as well as more often) every time their blood sugar fluctuates. Before the time of planting crops etc.   where would all the carbs have come from that paleo man ate? Ovecourse they didn't count carbs like we do,  they weren't surrounded by them.

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What are you blithering on about now PaleoPhil?

Everyone knows chimpanzees fish and go hunting. They hunt in bands to catch monkey meat, they do it for fun, not dissimilar from raids in World of Warcraft... 100% serious. They often THROW AWAY!!!!! fine pieces of meat they catch!!!!

It is NEVER a strategy for getting food. The energy expenditure vs energy getback is ludicrously tiny compared to foraging in any types of weather.

I like to hear of chimps etc. hunting and catching meat like this because it means I have the ability to consume fish and meat with not too much damage done to me. Humans aren't developed predators unlike chimps though, so I wouldn't exactly bank on it.

Honestly Paleophil, that was really a trolling and totally ignorant thing to say. The meat chimps eat is still only 1 or 2 percent of their diet!!! Gorilla eat NO meat!!!

Also, I'd be extremely, extremely surprised if this were the first time, in fact I'm positive this is wrong. They've long been known to sharpen sticks etc. to go hunting.


LOL I'm lpaying WOW right now, raiding the alliance for fun, hmmm   I didn't think to eat them though.

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Off Topic / Re: Raw nutrition, love, premonitory dreams, visions and ESP
« on: August 22, 2009, 10:36:30 am »
Have some of you ever experienced paranormal phenomenon such as premonitory dreams, telepathy, visions or other kinds of extrasensory perception (ESP) ? Are those phenomenon more often experienced when we’ve eaten 100% raw paleo for some time and/or when we are in love?

Cheers
Francois




Wow man thats a good one. I've only been raw for a week so I can't say but I have had alot of pranormal stuff go on in the past.

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General Discussion / connective tissue
« on: August 22, 2009, 10:22:40 am »
Since raw meat rebuilds connective tissue I'm wondering if anyone has noticed an increase in their height. Like back to the height of your former years  or maybe you are taller than ever because the discs in your spine are now built up better than ever.

Anyone notice anything like that?

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Hot Topics / Re: Eating frequency
« on: August 22, 2009, 10:03:21 am »
What is tallow?

Do you make your own jerky?

How much do u weigh?

Do you work out?  if  so  what do you do?

Just curious :-)

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Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: physique
« on: August 22, 2009, 10:00:14 am »
WOW thats awesome!!  This is the kinda stuff I wanna hear,  it will make it easier for all of us to stick to this way of life  which is contrary to the hurd if we all inspire each other with the awesome health and well being improvements etc.  that we get from our discipline:-)

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Hot Topics / Re: Eating frequency
« on: August 22, 2009, 09:08:12 am »
Thats interesting I was expecting to hear the opposite. I actually imagined that eating smaller amounts more frequently would speed the matabolism and make you lose more wher as 1 huge  or 2  large meals a day would cause your metabolism to slow down  and then that one big meal would cause you to bulk up more. Anyone else have any ideas or expiriences on that issue?

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Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: physique
« on: August 22, 2009, 08:18:38 am »
I do expect better ligament strength. Not that mine are weak, I tried to fight the power of a guys whole body with one arm at a very disadvantageous angle and basically with my own strength (which was much greater than my opponents) I caused my own injury. Basically I had it in my mind I was there to win and was unwilling to accept defeat. They say tap or snap and I chose snap lol.

However on the raw meat diet I think even greater tendon and ligament integrity is going to occur and it would be awesome to become so unbreakable that it never happens again, I'm excited at the idea and look forward to testing myself to the limit with a much better diet and physical integrity than ever before.


You say it tightened up your connective tissues making you more resistant to dislocations. I definitely believe you but I'm curious how you know. Like  what is it you can do now that you couldn't before without injury? Or along those lines.  And thanks for responding I find this kind of discussion very interesting and exciting.

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Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Ultimate Martial Arts
« on: August 22, 2009, 08:11:18 am »
Well as stated above there's cage fighting, and real fighting, from what I've seen in a cage fight  BJJ is the most effective single MA and all my life I've heard rumors of the deadly death blows etc. but never have seen such a thing. I think if anyone knew any real  deadly or extremely damaging strikes they would use them for a quick victory. I can knock someone unconcious with one punch which in real fighting would be deadly because I could then proceed to stomp or suffocate them or whatever. I just don't believe in these mythical deadly strikes. Unless ovecourse someone makes a weapon out of the environment. Ninjitsu sounds like a real world survival fighting skill involving makeshift weapons and using the environment etc. Within the confines of MMA competition where there are a few rules I've never seen anything as effective as ju jitsu. Therefore like you say it is impossible to really say there is any supreme martial arts style. The cool thing about MMA is that it has evolved fighting to a point where no master of any one style stands any real chance. You really do have to develop skill in multiple martial art styles to have a chance now days. We have taken fighting hand to hand to a higher level than it's ever been before by combining the best of multiple martial arts into one.

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Hot Topics / Eating frequency
« on: August 22, 2009, 01:27:03 am »

 I'm wondering what some of you would have to say about the advantages of eating large lees frequent meals on a raw meat diet. Say 2 meals a day  one morning  one at night   over    eating smaller amounts frequently throughout the day. Any info. on this would be appreciated as I feel there is some significance to this issue  I'm just not sure what it is,  thanks in advance for any knowledge you may share.

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Heelo All
« on: August 22, 2009, 01:18:04 am »
 Agreed,  and no offence to those consuming carbs in a raw state, it's more the type of carbs I was eating that were acting like glue on me. And for sure if my health goes down hill I will reintroduce some carbs, only raw veg. and a little fruits most likely. However after 5 days I feel like my body is starting to convert fats and proteins into glucose more efficiantly, my energy was a lot lower 2 days ago than it is now :-)

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Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: physique
« on: August 22, 2009, 01:12:19 am »
 I train at a little gym called Team Prophesy in Denver. I'm starting to focus on the BJJ aspect more now. The only way I've lost in the cage is due to submission (hence the dislocated elbow from refusing to tap from a very well set kimora). BJJ is the one thing that can beat me so I am so impressed with it I have to get that power for myself. It really is the most efficient and effective way to win a fight 1 on 1 with anyone from what I can tell. If a person was only to learn 1 fighting style you cant go wrong with the Brazilian Ju-Jitsu.
 I'm known for knocking guys out with one punch from either hand so now nobody will stand with me in the cage and I only get fights with better and better ground fighters. One of my personal drives is to become the best ground fighter ever, and I will ;-)
 I've only been practicing martial arts for less than a year now and I'm completely hooked. Your gonna see a raw meat eater in the UFC guys!!

 So far after 5 days on my raw predator diet I've noticed, a less manic mind, fall asleep easier, leaning out (even though I'm injured and not working out my abbs are showing more each day) I'm not losing muscle mass sitting on the couch, my sight is a little more clear and I perceive colors that other people don't (very interesting) my sex drive is suddenly pretty ridiculously high like when I was a teenager (look out wife) , my scalp has stopped itching and flaking, and my nose is a little more clear and easy to breath out of (which is new for me).

 There are also some detox symptoms going on. I feel moody on and off and have energy lows sometimes where I feel clouded and negative, however with as much toxic garbage as my body is cleaning out right now (including stubborn belly fat that's been there my whole life) I think it's to be expected. And going from lots of carbs to none is no doubt forcing my system to make some extreme changes in where and how it gets energy. Watching someone eat pizza is painful but I do it anyway to make myself stronger, it reminds me that there is a price for superhuman health, if it was easy everyone would do it. That adjounis (or however you spell his name) hasn't aged in the last 30 years from what I can see so it'll all be more than worth it my raw brothers and sisters ;-)

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I've had very good results (using max contraction style training) adding strength and muscle density to a physique that was already built up from conventional weight lifting. I think it's the most efficient way to add power to ones muscles and strengthen the connective tissues like tendons  etc.

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Exercise / Bodybuilding / physique
« on: August 21, 2009, 06:06:53 am »

 I just converted from a more compromised diet to a 100% raw meat no carb stlye diet.  I am an athlete (MMA) so I already have what most would see as an exceptional physique. 210-220 pounds  8% body fay  20'' arms 33'' waist etc.  However there is room for improvment and I will keep you guys posted on the physical improvements I expirience on this awesome primal carnivore diet as they happen. I am convinced that now that I'm not spiking my insulin anymore  the constant supply of growth hormone will have many physique improving qualities as well as anti-aging effects. I'm very excited about that.

 I'd love to hear from anyone who's had any awesome muscle growth results with this type of diet as opposed to the others they have tried, also fat loss and getting "shredded" stories are inspiring as well. And ovecourse impressive strength improvements as well.

Also I'd love to hear about any anti-aging benefits (hair regrowth in bald areas, return of hair color, loss of skin blemishes, repair of connective tissues, healed diseases etc. )

I'm excited for all of us and thankful to find this forum !!!

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Welcoming Committee / Heelo All
« on: August 21, 2009, 05:57:05 am »
Just sayin  hi  as I joined up today. It's my 3rd day of 100% raw meat/no carb and I'm excited to be on a path of indestructible health and vitality. I'm an MMA fighter (currently recovering from a dislocated elbow). I've consumed raw meat for a few years now but also cooked meat and carbs which has hindered me from getting as lean and healthy as i want to be. Anyway the extreme cravings for carbs over the last few days have confirmed for me that I'm on the right track finally! I don't like weakness and my carb addiction is a weakness, therefore it must go. I am of mostly viking decent so my ancestry lived where it was far from tropical, therefore it only makes sense that sugars would effect me in an ill way and they do. Any carbs stick to me like glue and I have had enough of that. I'm eating raw grass fed beef, raw cage free eggs and cod liver oil. Already my mind seems more stable and even though I havn't been able to work out for a month (because of injury) my muscles have improved in the last few days and my little inch of stubborn belly fat is shrinking, this is awesome, when I get back to my MMA training and strength training there will be no more pinch an inch for me lol   bout time. I think I'm gonna go post in other categories now so anyway  hi,  nice to meet you all,  glad to see theres other hardcore primal beasts out there like me, willing to step outside the hurd of sheep and be the lions we really are :-)

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