What are your experiences with such a diet?

Extreme digestive trouble, weakness, dehydration etc... I stopped this experiment quickly after 2-3 days, of course.

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I never understood that whole thing either. Another example is a potato. Supposedly they were poisonous while still wild and we bred it to be not poisonous. But what was the purpose?

To become independant from volatile food availability? After that we all became starch addicted. And today brainwashing is our daily business. See McDougall & all these other well educated experts. All physicians I know still recommend whole grains. Oh God!

The authors of the Bible knew this as Cain and Abel show us.

It must have been Devil's plan...

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One sixth of 'fresh', 'organic' or 'handmade' food is fake
One in six farm shops, delicatessens and restaurants that claim to offer “organic,” “fresh” or “handmade” food are cheating their customers, an investigation has found.

It's the same in Germany.

Recently officials found out that some million (!) organic eggs in many supermarkets have not been organic at all. One more reason to avoid supermarkets...

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I've heard of ketosis basically burning protein, now what if you're a low carber only getting carbs from veg and not fruits. Like say 20-40g carbs daily max. Will Ketosis still occur then?

I think ketosis will only occur if carb intake is very low (as you mentionend) AND your fat intake is high enough. Very high amounts of protein (lean meat) can inhibit ketosis.

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I have read about various cleanses using fats such as coconut oil, which you consume for several days.  I was wondering if other fats might be suitable, especially animal fats like raw lamb fat or beef rat.  Any ideas pro or con?  I have never done a cleanse so I am curious.

Believe me, a lamb fat mono diet feels VERY uncomfortable.. hehe.

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This is the first part of the documentary but the second part is where it talks directly about what Daniel talks about.

All that we know is that we know nothing...

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For the past few weeks my oral cavity has been extremely dry when waking up in the morning.  The tongue, roof and throat are all bone dry.  I could be dehydrated, but I think it is unlikely as I consume quite a bit of water.  I don't measure the water but I drink at least the equivalent of 3 20oz. bottles, sometimes more.  

I have been eating on a pattern of about 90% raw meat some days (including organs, had liver for the first time raw the other day) and other days I eat raw fruits and cheese or buttermilk for most of my meals, with maybe one meal of raw meat.  I eat 3 meals a day, usually 7am, noon and 6:30pm or thereabouts.  Some days I eat a large amount of fruit in the morning and then eat meat the rest of the day.  My foods are raw lamb, cheese, buttermilk, very small amount of nuts (walnuts, pumpkin seeds and sunflower seeds), butter, olive oil, coconut oil, bananas, apples, oranges, grapes, pears, melon.  

Should I just drink more water?  I hate forcing myself to drink water when I am not thirsty.

Ryan

Drinking water usually doesn't help.

Are you eating high amounts of 'heavy' animal fats from beef and lamb? If I eat TOO MUCH of the relatively hard lamb fat I get the same dehydration symptoms like you. 'Too much' means more than my body can handle.

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No and pigs are not ruminants, so while beef tapeworm comes from ruminants, pork tapeworm does not.

Of course, you are right! I focused on ruminants due to the potentially hazardous worms in pork.

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ok can i eat grain fed minced meat raw? like the higher fat ones you would find in the supermarket?
i've been eating slankers minced meat for a few weeks but i'm going to be relocating and i don't have much cash. What's the worse that could happen, a stomach ache? I can take pain and i trust my immune system to adapt and rid me of any undesirables

NEVER eat grain-fed supermarket-meat!

Everything could happen.

In my case I got severe inflammation of the GI tract, extreme aggressions, depression etc.

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Fruits have excess potassium and dehydrate regardless of type and season

From my own experience I strongly agree with your notion.

Even during my stays in tropical countries fully ripe tropical fruits dehydrated my skin more and more until it looked really terrible, a little bit like the skin from Douglas Graham. I was shocked, I couldn't believe it. Especially because the first weeks of fruitarian seem always let to glow your skin super healthy. The miserable process of skin destruction needs time.

I have some detailled photos of Douglas Graham on which you can see that he has a skin of a 80 - 90 years old man, at age 56 or 57! And I have collected other photos of long-term fruitarians, they all look like death with extremely unhealthy skin.

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It's a complex topic. My understanding from KGH and Loren Cordain is that the high FBG that occurs from VLC in an otherwise healthy person is a natural, benign form of insulin resistance called "peripheral insulin resistance." The fact that Lex hasn't developed symptoms of diabetes or pathological insulin resistance seems to support this.

What do you think about the glycating effects of elevated BG levels?

Higher blood sugar --> More glycating --> Rapid aging

?

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This sounds like a move on behalf of the dairy industry interests to stifle competition.

Ryan

I got very sick from raw milk when I followed the "Primal Diet".

Raw milk is frequently a cause of disease, as I found out later. Therefore a strict quality monitoring is essential.

It's better to eat raw meat...

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Interesting. Did you confirm this via blood glucose testing? In my own testing, my BG spikes from fruit regardless of what else I eat (though it generally returns almost to baseline within 3 hours), and this was the case before, during and after VLC, but the symptoms that night and the next day are lessened if I eat lots of fat with the fruit. Interestingly, some 80-10-10ers say that their BG doesn't spike from fruit if keep their diet low-fat, which would fit your experience. I've seen others claim that fat reduces the BG spiking effects of fruit, so it's all rather confusing to me.

Hi PaleoPhil,

yes, I used a blood glucose meter. The effect is reliable, that means I can repeat it again and again. As long as my fat intake is high, fruit causes blood sugar spikes. When I follow a low fat diet, no spikes after fruit.

The question is: Are blood sugar spikes (in between 'normal' range) something to worry about? Or are they just somthing completely normal?

Zero Carbers like Lex Rooker report high fasting BG levels. This sounds not healthy, IMO. I mean, Zero Carbers always talk about diabolical carbs. And then they have constantly (!) much higher sugar levels in their BLOOD! This is a big contradiction, isn't it?

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