The only meat from which you seem to like the fat is that which has no fat. I think something else is the matter here other than the feed.

OH, that sounds very philosophical! If something else here is the matter, what could it be, miles?

Usually fat from wild boar tastes excellent. Sometimes not. And my idea is to get fats from other WILD animals. Perhaps beaver, BEAR, WAALRUS, WHAALEESS!!??

What are you favourites?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKtfeYFqSi4

Morricone is a superhero!!

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I'm in Austria right now.

Oh, dann sprichst Du sicherlich bereits ein ausgezeichnetes Deutsch, nicht wahr!?

I have heard that wild game meat is easy to get nearly everywhere in Austria. What do you think about fat from wild animals? My only reliable source so far is wild boar. But sometimes the fat is too soft and the taste is disgusting. In such cases I guess that the animal was gormandizing too long on corn fields.

Other animals like deer etc. are usually super lean and no source for fat. That's the main reason to me to buy grass fed meat from domesticated animals. Any ideas beside sanglier?

I want to eat Aurochs!

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I've been pure RP for about 5 weeks. I was out late so decided to give cooked meat a go. I had some lamb ribs which used to be my favourite. Can't eat that horrible shit again! It tasted of feces and the fat made me feel sick. I can't wait to get it out of my system.

I think this is a real turning point, now I can't wait for a clean raw meal, before it was a chore and I craved cooked, so stick with it if you're new.

Yes! Cooked food feels so dirty. Especially cooked fats!

The only food I can eat cooked today are some vegetables like broccoli etc.

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Just had to buy some raw pork. It is mostly grainfed and is incredibly difficult to cut through with a meat-knife, unlike the raw wild game I've been eating so far. Hope I will find a decent source of raw wild game tomorrow.

You don't HAVE to buy grainfed pork! A fast would be better. 

If I remember correctly you lived in London, some years ago. Are you still living there? (or did you move to Austria? (where your last mail came from))

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BTW: I still have round about a ton of truely wild game meat from the Eifel in the freezer. The funny thing is: It cost me even less than supermarket pork meat...

Welcome!
Interesting post youve of your history - very similar to mine, and I think probably similar to a lot of folk who have finally found their way to raw paleo in its varying degrees. I still eat a sort of mid-way carb rawpaleo: fruit meal mornings, animal as second meal. But huge doubts plaguing me about how good so muc h fruit is ....or not....as I seem to be hearing from a lot of people's experiences. I don't seem to be having any problems from it....but then most of the problems seem to be something that can also develop long term.

What sort of problems did you develop from a high tropical fruit diet? Maybe there are signs I should be aware of, that I may be experiencing and don't realise they are warning signs. The only warning sign at the moment is something more subliminal saying 'maybe all the bananas aren't that good after all'!!

I am in South AFrica....probably wouldn't be able to join a raw paleo party in Europe....but maybe one day we could organise a raw paleo safari in South Africa and you could all try out some of the wild game here!

Hi Bronwen,

I have eaten a lot of fruit for many years without big problems. I think the damaging effects need some years to become visible.

My problems if I eat too much fruit in the long-run: Thinning hair, receding gums, yellow teeth, weak teeth, enamel loss, feeling very cold (in winter), need of much more sleep, bad sleep, no sex drive, joint problems, emaciation (if only fruit), bady body composition, probably hormonal imbalance, dry skin, accelerated aging (!), fat maldigestion, gas, bloating, unnaturally high longing for sunshine

and HORRIBLE SKIN.

Too much fruit in the long-run seems to age or destroy my skin!

I have seen these problems in many long-term fruitarians.

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I think the opioids in milk cause the drugged effect which makes one go to sleep. I think I read somewhere that the idea is to make calves go to sleep after suckling and not bother the mother.

When I was drinking 1 - 3 litres of raw milk per day, during my PrimalDiet phase, I sometimes

slept 14 hours a day.

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Sounds TO ME(mufukers)like your problem was eating too much fat, especially without chewing it thoroughly to get the saliva mixed in(which makes it taste better too).

Yes, I think you are right, on some days the fat ratio was really too high.

But THIS crappy fat I have eaten was completely undigestible. Even after hours of chewing and salivating...

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Hi all,
Wasn't sure if that was the right category, as its not really a health problem-so move it if it suits in some other forum better: For the last couple months I have been eating 1 meal at night, often 1 or 2 hours before going to bed. Today I had a huge meal about 3 hours, after my morning run b/c I wanted to try to shift my meal or have something to eat during the day and got cold feet from it. They are still cold. It feels really strange. Anyone has any idea what this could be?
Thanks Nicole

What have you eaten?

I get cold hands and feet if I eat too much fruit, for example.

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Anybody here drink it? I'm considering it but I heard it contains progesterone.

Sounds like an vegan idea.

Cows eat chlorophyll. We eat cows. It's very comfortable and tasty. ;-)

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Blueberries and blackberries!
Fresh or frozen.

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Can you elaborate on your disastrous 'raw zero carb beef' phase? Did you get ill because the beef was grain-fed or because you were not eating any carb?

How is your diet today different than it was during that phase, i mean what do you think is the one change in your diet that made the most difference?

Some of the problems during my zero carb beef diet: Extreme digestive problems, inflammation, frequent diarrhoea, liquid stools, red slime, constipation, cramps, sharp pain, extreme dehydration, extreme thirst, heart problems, palpitations, pain in my chest, was getting worse every month not better, high blood pressure, anxiety, aggressions, vertigo, unable to work, insomnia, paranoid ideas, difficulties concentrating, new cavities, tapeworms, paleness, unable to do any sport,  etc.

So called "adaption" never set in. After this period I was a wreck. It was the worst and most stupid experiment I have ever done. I couldn't eat anything anymore. That was 2007. A year I will never forget.

Today I know that most of the problems have been caused by GRAINFED meat. Apparently I had eaten some very nasty bacterias and other bad things from diseased animals.

Some of the problems have been caused by zero carb, for example dehydration and sleeplessness.

The very hard white solid lamb fat I have eaten clogged my whole system, even my ears. I never had vertigo before (caused by clogged ears I have read). Today I would never ever touch such hard and toxic animal fats again.

On some days the protein ratio could have been way too high on other days the fat.

Today I eat eclusively truely wild game meat or 100% grass fed meat beside small amounts of fruits and salads (leafy greens). Very seldom I eat some vegetables like carrots. For me it's better to fast than to eat meat from diseased animals. All grainfed animals are diseased. This year I will start my own farming and hunting. I don't want to buy food from anyone anymore in the future.

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