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General Discussion / Re: Night cramp
« on: December 11, 2011, 08:45:20 pm »
I've purchased raw milk from Shunpike Dairy in Millbrook, NY before. It would be a long drive for you though; it's probably 1 1/2 to 2 hours north of the city. It was good quality milk though and I guess if you could work out a co-op run weekly or bi-weekly it might be worth it for a couple people to go in together. :)

AFAIK it's not illegal to buy it in the state but I think you're supposed to buy it at the farm.
Connecticut might be another option for you. It's legal to buy in stores there.

Journals / Re: Ioanna's Journal
« on: December 11, 2011, 05:29:14 am »
I'm going to add to the pile. You guys all add a ton to the forum, and by way of that my continuing good health, and I thank you all for your kind words, inspiration, and especially everyone's good senses of humor. You make my our time online brighter. :D

Journals / Re: Ioanna's Journal
« on: December 06, 2011, 10:14:50 am »
Glad to hear you're doing so well Ioanna. It definitely sounds like you're improving in leaps and bounds. Go you. :D

Journals / Re: Ramblings of a madman...
« on: December 05, 2011, 04:20:53 am »
Glad to hear about your progress. I always look forward to your updates.
Thank you Eve. The feeling is mutual. :)

My affordable-beef strategy is to buy the roasts that don't move well. My butcher sells them to me as sub-primal cuts at "grain-fed" prices, which is about $2/pound less than grass-fed ground, and a zillion dollars less than grass-fed steaks and roasts. I hang the whole section in the fridge so I don't have to freeze the meat. Uncut beef hangs and ages well, if you like it that way. I then buy throw-away trim fat from the "London broil" cut of round for 99-cents/pound.
I could source cheaper meats locally but the quality from this farm is second to none and we're friends with the owners so want to support them as much as we can.
The "old bull" is $5 a pound and the suet is $4 a pound so my food averages ~$4.75 a pound. It's not as cheap as supermarket meat but it's worth what I have to spend. Still cheaper than a meal from a fast food joint or deli.
I'd love to hang a slab of meat in the fridge but my wife's not at that point yet. She's OK with my meat in a container or a small cut on a plate but nothing hanging yet. :)

The wife and I are going to look at a used car today and hopefully start the process to buy it. We've been sharing the commute in a 1995 Toyota Tercel but it's got 283k miles on it and I have to keep putting money into it. We're going to look at 2007 Suzuki SX4 as it'll be really good in the snow, which we get tons of, but still fairly economical (we've got a Jeep for the really bad weather but it's far from what I'd call economical). Hopefully it's in as good shape as it looks and we can pick it up. :)
We left a deposit on the car today. It's in really good shape and has been well maintained. The owner has a 140 mile round-trip commute each day so it's got ~100k miles on it but it's almost all highway. Runs, drives, and stops perfect. We're excited to finish up the paperwork (he needs to contact the financing company on the car and get a release of lien letter) and get it home. Should be here by Christmas. :)

Journals / Re: Ramblings of a madman...
« on: December 04, 2011, 08:49:46 pm »
Nothing too earth-shattering to report over the last month.

My farmer was running very low on my normal "old bull" ground so he cut me a deal on some other roasts he had which weren't moving well. I got 29 pounds of the old bull and the rest as roasts for this month and it's working out nicely for my meals. I've been having a meal of 1-1 1/4 pounds ground beef and ~1/3 pound suet chunks for lunch which digests quickly, is quick to eat so I don't get slowed down at work, and is calorie dense (I have 2-3 times the suet with this meal than I have with dinner). Dinner is a half a roast, on average 1 1/2 pound serving, along with a bit of suet. This isn't as dense in calories but works well for rebuilding/healing while I sleep. It's also very nice to have chunks of meat after having almost only ground for so long.

I've been making a conscious effort to keep well hydrated. I'm averaging between a half and a full gallon of water a day. There's a clear stop on water consumption so it's easy to get enough.

I've also been working on getting enough sleep every night. I'm locked into getting up no later than 6:30am for work so I need to make up the difference on the front end. As a result I've been trying, fairly successfully, to get to bed by 9pm each night. It's hard some nights due to my daily schedule (by the time my wife and I finish up the gym after work and get home it's 7:30 or later) but overall it's working well. The weekends really don't work out as well though (last night I went in at 11pm).

I've been going out running each morning. As it gets colder I'm less thrilled about it but the benefits I've found on my fat processing are too large to let some cold stop me. It'll be interesting in blizzards. ;D

The gym is going really nicely. I haven't been making it there for many of the "cardio" nights as they feel less important to me and I'm burned out after work. I don't feel bad about it though with running in the morning. I have been very consistent with weight nights. I'm still really just focusing on circuit training right now but do plan to eventually get to regular heavy lifting as well.

The wife and I are going to look at a used car today and hopefully start the process to buy it. We've been sharing the commute in a 1995 Toyota Tercel but it's got 283k miles on it and I have to keep putting money into it. We're going to look at 2007 Suzuki SX4 as it'll be really good in the snow, which we get tons of, but still fairly economical (we've got a Jeep for the really bad weather but it's far from what I'd call economical). Hopefully it's in as good shape as it looks and we can pick it up. :)

Personals / Re: kudzu vine
« on: December 04, 2011, 08:28:26 pm »
I'm sure there are plenty of farmers in the Southern USA who would be happy to let you harvest their kudzu.  I doubt anybody sells it, though. It's an invasive pest in the US.
I've seen it plenty of places in powdered form believe it or not. I've never seen it other ways. It's supposed to be a powerful aid in working through alcohol withdrawal.

Hot Topics / Re: Who's going to feast this Thanksgiving? (and on what)
« on: November 25, 2011, 04:56:37 am »
I'm enjoying some really fatty brisket, raw and unadulterated. 8)

General Discussion / Re: Deer hunting
« on: November 22, 2011, 12:02:36 am »
I disagree on the comments about using a rifle. They aren't any more 'humane' than using a bow. A rifle bullet (or slug, or steel ball if you use a muzzle loader) creates fierce pain that kills quickly due to massive tissue damage (assuming that you hit a vital spot). An arrow creates much less pain and kills slightly less quickly because it causes less tissue damage (again assuming that you hit a vital spot).

The benefit of rifles (and firearms more generally) is that they make it easy to kill without requiring people to learn how to hunt. You don't have to learn the habits of an animal, you don't have to learn fieldcraft, you don't have to learn to make any tools, etc. Just buy a gun, sit in a tree and wait for something to walk by within a few hundred yards of you. Most folks who use rifles to kill, in my opinion, are more akin to snipers than they are to hunters.

Agreed. Even though I'm definitely a good shot with a rifle and could have taken a deer or two this season I do not see the point unless I am in a situation where I need the meat to survive. Tracking an animal and using a bow seems fairer to the animal and a better way to show respect for it. I've got the bow I just haven't got enough training in yet to feel comfortable with a kill shot. I'd rather forgo the meat than chance wounding the animal and not killing it.
ys; Please don't take this as an attack on you. You are in a different position and have a different mindset than I do. We all have different outlooks on things.

As for the corn it definitely has an effect on the meat. I have a number of friends and family who are hunters. Most of the deer come from areas without farms and I can handle the meat fine. I've gotten meat from one person though who hunts near farms and I can't eat the meat. He sometimes will cull the herds a bit out of season for other farmers though, times when the corn is not ripe, and I can eat the meat then without issue. I'm not sure how extensive the effect on the meat is but it does something to it.

This reminds me that some folks here said that Asian markets should have the exotic tropical fruits that people rave about here, like safus, durian, custard apple and so forth. I diligently checked out all the local Asian and health food markets, hunting down every one I could find, to the tiniest little Asian and Indian markets, and none of them had a single one of these fruits, so no luck here. Even coconuts are considered relatively exotic and sold in very small numbers in this area, LOL.
That doesn't surprise me that much Phil. Maybe I'm misguided in my thinking but I would assume that where you are there isn't a large percentage of recent Asian immigrants. You stock the market for what the locals will buy.

For the record the Asian market I frequent is in Hartsdale, about 20-25 miles north of NYC, and is a supplier of many local Asian restaurants as we have a large population of first and second generation Asian immigrants in the area. I've only found frozen durian and jackfruit when I went but they've had tons of other fresh "exotic" fruits (persimmons, mountain apples, dragonfruit, many varieties of mangos & papayas, guavas, passion fruits, calamansi, kumquats, mangosteen, longan, rambutan, lychee, etc, etc.) and green coconuts.

The fruit I have difficulty sourcing when I want to indulge is Cherimoya. Everything is shipped from California or abroad and it's very perishable so is rarely available. I've actually had the best luck finding it in Hannaford's supermarkets.

General Discussion / Re: braaaaiiiiiiinnnnnssssss
« on: November 16, 2011, 07:30:13 pm »
Does anyone have experience with both deer and beef brain so I can compare? All I've had was deer but it was much nicer than the beef sounds. It had flavor to it and was creamy like a soft pudding.

General Discussion / Re: braaaaiiiiiiinnnnnssssss
« on: November 16, 2011, 09:21:40 am »
Eat it by itself. It's really filling and I doubt it will mix well with muscle meat. I'd also make sure it was warm when you ate it; I doubt it would be as appetizing cold.

Health / Re: Tendinitis
« on: November 14, 2011, 02:47:55 am »
Forgive my ignorance but if you were willing to take prednisone to help why are you afraid of a cortisone shot local to the inflammation? The logic behind the local shot (quell the inflammation medicinally so your body has time to heal without fighting against said inflammation) seems much less disruptive or harmful than ingesting an immunosuppresant which will effect the whole body. It's typically only the one shot as well.

Eating raw should help with general inflammation but I'm not sure if it will be enough to significantly speed up healing on yours. It seems your injury might be easy to aggravate.

Journals / Re: A day in the life of TylerDurden
« on: November 12, 2011, 05:55:57 am »
Dr Ron is a fan of the WAPF and has written articles about that diet.

The last time I bought some raw wild game, I had one of the butchers ask me how I cooked the meats, as they occasionally do. I rarely have the guts to state that I eat it raw, so I just stand there, usually, quite speechless. The trouble is that if I'm honest, then that just causes more problems.
Tell him you eat it plain without much preparation; you like the flavor of the game to come through without adulteration. No lies yet you don't have to worry about telling them you eat it raw. :D

General Discussion / Re: What's worse, smoked or frozen or deydrated?
« on: November 11, 2011, 08:34:01 pm »
Thank you Tyler for your most useful reply.

Is everyone in agreement with Tyler that freezing would be the least of the evils?
I agree.

Drying/dehydrating would be the next worse. In my personal experiences it causes one to overeat as they interpret thirst for hunger. I'm not sure on what nutritional loss there is though but it seems safe to assume water soluble vitamins would be damaged.

Welcoming Committee / Re: recovering ex-fruitarian
« on: November 10, 2011, 06:15:55 am »
I'm thinking my strategy maybe should be fruit only in the morning. Does that make sense? I love fruit... right now I'm hooked on fresh bahri dates. It's the season. They melt in your mouth like caramel. And you want more and more... until you have a stomachache and you've spoiled your dinner.
If I ate fruit that would be how I would do it. :)

Personals / Re: Anyone in the Northeast US?
« on: November 08, 2011, 08:40:34 am »
Hey, you'all, I'm in western Massachusetts. I'm glad to see there are other northeasterners on here. If anyone has any ideas for me getting meat that hasn't been frozen out here, let me know... I'm pretty new to this.
I don't have a source for unfrozen but if you go the frozen route the farmer I buy from might be within driving distance for you depending on how close to the NY border you are:

Health / Re: overeating?
« on: November 08, 2011, 07:45:19 am »
Also why is suet harder to digest?
It's a much more saturated fat so needs more bile to process.

Re: amounts of food for daily eating, I eat about 1 pound of meat/fish daily, plus some fruit and raw dairy.  I eat about 50% more than that if I'm doing a physically active job.  I'm about 135-140 pounds.  If you're very active, or much larger than me, then you could, at least theoretically, need that much food in one day.
I'm 175 and pretty active when I can be. I can't do a large  amount of food (3+ pounds) multiple days in a row though. Some days I'll crave more food than my normal which is 2 to 2 1/2 pounds of meat and those are the days that get up to 3+. They almost always correlate to recovery after a particularly tiring day.

Health / Re: overeating?
« on: November 07, 2011, 08:49:49 pm »
Eating right before bed is a bad idea, but a bite of something won't make a big difference.  You, however, ate about 2 days worth of food, and then went almost directly to bed.  You learned not to do it again, right?

I don't think the cheese caused it, although you really should be careful about your dairy sources.  It should always be grassfed.
FWIW depending on his weight & level of activity that could be a day's worth of food. I've had a number of days over the past couple months, the most recent was Saturday, where I took down 3 pounds of meat and 1/4-1/2 pound of suet in one day.
I do agree that's way too much right before bed. My latest meal has to be more than an hour before bed and if I ate more than a pound and a half in that meal I might get digestion issues as well.

My two cents are that, on top of too much food right before you went to sleep, you ate it in the wrong order. IMO the fruit and sauerkraut should have been first with time to begin digestion (at least a half hour) then follow that up with meat/fat.While the meat/fat doesn't feel heavy in your stomach it does seem to take longer than fruit to begin digestion.

Hot Topics / Re: Warm Breakfast in Fall
« on: November 05, 2011, 10:38:36 am »
Hey Dan - I was being tongue-in-cheek about Paleo Phil as he was the one who over years demonstrated calm loving and respectful information to my raw vegan self and therefore the reason I am here. Just bantering a bit with Zi as we both know he's a doll.
It's getting to be time for bed. I caught it at first and then responded at face value without thinking. It's all good; Phil knows we love him. :)

Welcoming Committee / Re: Just Another Newbie
« on: November 05, 2011, 10:33:52 am »
I have a question and don't know if this is the right place to ask it.
I am doing a coconut oil detox to see if that helps my situation any better, done the saliva test and those questionnaires so was gonna give it a try, my only concern is the fact that there is no protein for three days and i don't want to loose any weight, i heard meat inhibits candida so was wondering if a small amount of beef steak just to get a small amount of protein would be ok?
Two things:
1) If you're performing a coconut oil detox stick to just the coconut oil and don't worry about a couple days without protein. If you do lose any mass it won't take long to come back. Good Samaritan can advise you on this as it's his area of expertise.
2) Note: This is purely anecdotal findings on my part...Candida will actually sustain, albeit in a slowly diminishing state, on a meat & fat based diet. There's a fine line with protein in versus protein out and when you get more than you need in your diet the Candida will opportunistically feed on the leftovers. I've just experienced it this past week as I had been very active the month before so got used to eating more meat vs. fat and after missing the gym all week (due to a power outage) I'm having some recurrent issues pop up since I kept my intake up.

Hot Topics / Re: Warm Breakfast in Fall
« on: November 05, 2011, 10:05:40 am »
And on the topic of oversight/moderation I feel that if we did create a vegan or vegetarian sub-forum that Skinny Devil would be an ideal face to lead it. He's eating almost vegetarian now but with some meat tossed in here and there. He's also in great shape and has a great outlook on life. Exactly who you want helping folks with that next step showing them it's not so scary. Then again I don't know if he's able to commit much time either.

Hot Topics / Re: Warm Breakfast in Fall
« on: November 05, 2011, 10:00:11 am »
Zi - what better than to have a zero-carb dude be moderator for the raw vegan section? Talk about some strict moderation that would be! hee hee.
Not necessarily. I'm "ZC" through and through yet find I'm pretty lenient to vegan/vegetarian discussion. I guess it's because I found my way to RAF through other means than raw vegan like many on the forum did. :)

I think a raw vegetarian or vegan sub-forum is a good idea if we can keep it respectful. There are still many benefits to a well thought out vegan/vegetarian diet but they just lack one big piece that we collectively have found truly useful.

I feel a transitional diet sub-forum is also a good idea. There are two main camps we seem to get people from; cooked paleo & raw vegan.If there was a hospitable place for people to just come and ask questions without worry of being ridiculed or demeaned it might be a real boon to many.

I don't get on here enough to cover things by myself but I've found so much good in this diet, and it's helped my health so tremendously, that I will volunteer the time I do have on here to be extra vigilant in these sub-forums if we do institute one or both. At the end of the day I want to help others if they're willing to take that first step to help themselves. :)

We would add it like this:

Raw Paleo Diet Forums:
Welcoming Committee
Info / News Items / Announcements
General Discussion
Exercise / Bodybuilding
Hot Topics
Suggestion Box
Off Topic

Raw Paleo Diets:
Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet
Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach
Wai Dieters
Instincto / Anopsology

Other Raw-Animal-Food Diets:
Primal Diet
Raw Weston Price

Transitionary Diets:
Raw Vegetarian/Vegan
Cooked Paleo
(Do we include cooked Weston A. Price?)

Raw Paleo Diet Gallery:
Display Your Culinary Creations
Members' Journals

Members Only:
Before and After Photos
Exercise Gallery
Politics / Spirituality / Philosophy

Journals / Re: Josh's Newbie Journal
« on: November 04, 2011, 06:38:27 pm »
Time for another break from the forum I feel. I don't think I have access to any grass fed fats here, and don't enjoy the questionable lamb mince at all.

I have also had many problems adapting to raw paleo and low carb which I've posted about repeatedly, and can't deal with the ups and downs with work and life at the moment.  So back to doing the best I can with diet, and not thinking about how it's harming me too much!

Hopefully...someday...maybe I can be raw paleo. All the best in the meantime. Happy hunting!
Take care Josh. :)

Journals / Re: Ramblings of a madman...
« on: November 03, 2011, 08:27:22 am »
We've got power. O0
Finally got power back on around noon today.
Going for a couple days without any power or heat really makes you appreciate these luxuries. Looking forward to a solid night sleep followed by a run in the morning and a really hot shower. :)

Journals / Re: Ramblings of a madman...
« on: November 01, 2011, 04:53:45 am »
We got 7 inches of really heavy snow. Power went out Saturday around 10PM and is still out at the house. Never thought I'd be so happy to be at work. ;D
My wife brought her Ball Python to work today as part of her Halloween costume. Beats worrying about it freezing to death. :)

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