1 major point: Saladin has a healthy sense of optimism. Successful business people in any field of endeavor are optimistic, even amidst great setbacks.

The original poster is drowning in pessimism. He would have to eliminate most of his pessimism - keeping a healthy sense of skepticism - and learn how to see the bright side. Then, he can start a successful farming enterprise. When he learns to create optimism, he will see his paleoprimal village spring to life around him.

Screw you eveheart, that's you you're talking about, not me, your are simply reflecting yourself into how you seem me, in reality I am the least pessimistic, most optimistic person who posts on this entire forum.

I am drowning in pain. I am suffering from things I dare not write here. It is not only humiliating, I am experiencing more pain than I have even been able to write hardly anything or really express myself to more than just a few people, one of which who wanted to help me took his own life, really ever since the winter of 2013.

I have PTSD pretty bad, I am finally starting to feel like myself again.

I don't think it's even possible to make a reasonable living at farming anymore, unless you inherit a huge acreage and are willing to grow a subsidized commodity crop. I work in the agricultural sector as a consultant, and 90%+ of the farmers I know who make a living do so largely by having second or even third jobs off-farm to augment their meager farm incomes. Having seen so many negative balance sheets, I marvel at why anyone would want to go into farming.

Because not everyone is a gullible shmuch like the majority of farmers who utilize unsound practices.

For gods sakes to even qualify for subsidies you are required to manifest your land into a negative zone of death and destruction, of pestilence and decay. It is not an option for the subsidized farmer, it is the very rule of law. 

Of fucking course they have to work off the farm, they are growing crops that cost more money to grow than they yield. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They are competing in sheer numbers of acres, ever 1 acre gets you another check from the government. Every acre of corn, rice, wheat and soy gives you another check. You rent your neighbors field, obliterate the ecology with our most sophisticated technology like we did in Vietnam and you get more checks. So you can fix your tractor. Or buy another field.

I met a guy last summer. He was a corn husker, was his whole life, until 2 years ago, they bought a robot tractor. They farm 4000+ acres.

Everyone is going to look back and they are going to wish they did more. Some day there really will be regrets.

I'm not a doctor so I am probably pretty miserable at diagnosing myself, but I can say that I have suffered from depression for around half of time here on earth. I grew up an only child but my early childhood was exceedingly rich as I grew up in the countryside along a large and extremely healthy river. There were few rules in those days, I was to avoid the highway on the hill above our holler, the old abandoned fire house, the well houses (the only rule I broke) and the deep part of the river. I chewed on grass, clover flowers and leaves and wild strawberries. In the winter and throughout most of the year we lived off of venison, wild turkey or fish from the river and lakes. Of course all good things come to an end and since my young parents wanted to make more money and they were staying at my grandma's house they decided to move to the city. Although a very intelligent student who always tested strongly in all categories, I failed many classes and was usually dismissed as a poor student. I easily passed my GED and attended a year of college but after returning to my original home once more after my first year, I worked at an organic vegetable farm which I had originally visited as a young student on a field trip.

This was a life changing event which quickly restored to me a great deal of the vitality I had lost from years of city life. Living close to healthy soil, cuts and scrapes healed quickly with no treatment but dirt and saliva. Fermented vegetables and a renewed steady diet of wild berries helped restore my biological flora and for the first time in 13 years illness and ill thrift were no longer threats on the horizon like they had been before. I tasted my vigor renewed and in the passing years new exploration and my own self education escalated my health to greater and greater heights. However I returned to the city to find my health in crisis and new measures must be learned and taken to create a viable bubble from the toxic funeral that await those who do not take the helm of their destiny. Which of course eventually led me to this forum and many questionable life decisions.

In my own pursuit of health and in execution of my plan, do to a string of close but no cigar experiences in the farming life, I raised healthy happy animals, many generations, 7 in goats, and 3 in cows. Unfortunately in my prolonged endeavor where I maintained my operation almost entirely under my own effort in all but the worst of all years I experienced which lead to the termination of my livelihood 1 year later as taking care of myself in my reduced, PTSD state became my top priority and to my great sadness I said goodbye to the ones who helped me more than any human ever did and were the only thing that ended my 17 years of depression. I couldn't afford to take care of them anymore because I couldn't afford to take care of myself because I didn't have any help, only people who took advantage of me.

It's been over a year since I left where I am from again as I have so many times. I am starting to feel strong again but is still difficult to deal with the pain. I cannot deal with my depression and my job and buying the foods I need to make me healthy. I need a real life. I am getting ready again to start building my life bubble again. I was remotely prepared for the end of western civilization in 2012 with little resources. I am a natural farmer. I have attempted to shape my method of animal husbandry after the greatest practitioners of organic agriculture recorded in books available on earth. I can succeed with a few natural resources, time, dedication and discipline, but to truly succeed in the presence of modernity, I need the help and support my my community, it is crucial, it is fundamental, it is the beginning and the end.

It says in the bible, "cast not pearls before swine, lest they turn and tear you to pieces."

“That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons that history has to teach.”
Aldous Huxley.

Placenta eating is something primordial which goes back before history, even herbivore mamas will instinctively lick the after birth off their new born.

That's right, it's considered a bad sign if they don't eat it because it might mean they are having a problem although sometimes it gets dirty and they wont eat it and sometimes a dog gets it lol.

Well shit GS, $40 an hour is damn good money.

I'm not sure I really agree that this "scientific" experiment can safely conclude definitively the intelligence level of any of those animals. What about monkeys and dolphins? Or wolves. To come to this conclusion one would be more apt to do scientific experiments comparing individuals within species not by comparing the species to each other. Even the information prevented in this article is convoluted. And duh wtf didn't we figure out half of this shit already anyways?

Aside from the obvious, the author forgot to factor in the carbon footprint of building and maintaining an aircraft, and an airline etc.

Mining the fuel, that the it's actually more like 14 pounds of beef and is completely negligent of the fact that pastures where grass fed cattle live absorb and sequester carbon.

The technology that will save the world is methods of animal husbandry that mimic the ecosystem processes wild animals performed before they were wiped out. It will take over 100 years if not longer for wildlife populations to come back anywhere near where they used to be, however if we start using livestock to restore the grassland ecosystem, wildlife will be more able to recolonize the earth than otherwise. The earths carrying capacity could probably increased by six timed if not more using this technology in conjunction with remineralization of world soils.

Where will you be living wild?
How many companions will you be having?
How long do you plan on living wild?
What would you do for medical needs?
Communications for rescue?
What about self defense? Against wild animals?
If you are a guy, what about sex? (I'd find being sex less harsh).
If you have women, are you equipped with pregnancy and birthing knowledge?

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I suggest you take wild living training courses first, especially from people who have lived wild in the area you plan to live in.

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If you've read some of my posts here, I don't think our current human form is built to live wild and alone.  At minimum we would have to be in a tribe.  We are a pretty much domesticated stock.  How much technology are you willing to live without?

I really don't think I would have a whole lot of problem living "wild" with tools by myself other than the fact that I have very little desire to do so. However in a lot of ways it would be easier and more comfortable than the domesticated life I have now. Hoping to improve upon that.

I had a feeling that a lot of meat in Europe wasn't as good as here, however I have had really good fatty acorn finished ham in Spain that tasted better than salmon and I am sure there are many good places to get good meat there. The ability of parts of the Netherlands and a few other places in Europe to grow cool season grasses (most of the food that grass fed livestock in America eat) far surpasses what is possible in the majority if not entirety of America. The pastures of the Netherlands rank among the best in the world along with New Zealand and parts of Australia. Also I'm not a soils expert but I would entertain the notion that the Appalachian Mountain Range has quality of soil more similar to much of Europe than to the rest of the United States.

You didn't eat any good horse meat in France? They cut off most of the fat here too, it's super hard to find good fat in America.

Lol I just got to the bottom and read you want to go to Australia or NZ haha

It's not a cow fart that is dangerous but when you take a billion cow shits and put them in a vat that is not natural and the organisms that live off of the methane would likely be killed by the anaerobic toxic sludge that results from your average intensive livestock operation in the industrialized nations. Also in much of pasture land there is a deficit of fresh carbon to the amount of nutrients in the soil because pastures are overgrazed and under rested. If pastures are allowed to recover then grasses have increased carbon production and thus more consistent cow poops and more earthworm food. It should be farmers goal to waste 30% of their pasture to mulch the next crop in order to retain and increase fertility and forage quality.

If you look at the Potenger's cat's study, the feces from the unhealthy cats produced unhealthy plants. I imagine it is largely the same with cattle.

http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/17797/20151027/loss-animals-poop-disrupts-nutrient-cycles-new-study-shows.htm

We are steadily replacing wild game, prairie and forest with industrialized, chemicalized and even roboticized grain agriculture destroying ourselves and the planet. A paleo diet agriculture is essential for humanities future on the planet.