I mentioned WAPF's troubles and FCLO in a blog post last fall: Reflections on the First P3 Foundation Conference. Might be an interesting read for some, and includes a few links related to WAPF troubles that folks may want to follow up on.

Actually, as someone who does LCAs for a living and works with a lot with grass farmers (in the US northeast), the claims made in the article seem quite reasonable.

The carbon footprint of building and maintaining an aircraft is large, but that total footprint is spread across thousands of individual flights so when you're looking at a single flight the carbon footprint ends up quite small, most likely negligible.

Also, while in an ideal grass farming enterprise the grass does sequester carbon, I suspect that for the average grass-based enterprise this isn't true. The average grass farm, whether here in the US or across the pond in Europe, is poorly run and pastures most likely overgrazed. These farms probably don't sequester much carbon, and could very well be a net source of C to the atmosphere from the soil. And if you graze animals that have for generations been heavily grain fed, their genetics and microbiomes are not well suited to a diet of 100 percent grass so they do fart more methane.

While I think it's always useful to carry a healthy degree of skepticism when reading articles like the one RF linked to, I also think it's important not to dismiss then out of hand when they disagree with our closely held beliefs. Sometimes our beliefs aren't based on reality.

I've been eating raw meat regularly since 2003.

I cannot conclusively blame any illness I have had on eating raw meat. I once got sick after eating raw chicken, but the symptoms passed after about a day. Salmonella, the illness most commonly associated with eating undercooked chicken, usually lasts several days and its symptoms are generally far more severe than those I experienced. The stomach flu was also going around at the time.

I attended the first annual Paleo-Primal-Price Foundation Conference this past weekend. I was pleasantly surprised by some of the discussions of eating raw animal foods that came up, both during Q & A with speakers and privately. For those interested in the conference scene, I invite you to keep this new foundation on your radar. I wrote a reflection on the conference and posted it on my blog.

Anyone who posts here regularly have a blog they regularly post to? I just started one (EricGarza.info), and while I do plan to talk about food and nutrition these topics will be among many I talk about.

Currently re-reading the book Against the Grain: How Agriculture Hijacked Civilization, and reading Fields of Blood: Religion and the History of Violence for the first time. Recently finished the book Against His-Story, Against Leviathan. The author of this last book is very detail oriented (it's essentially a historical treatise of why civilizations started), which makes the book a little hard to read at times because it gets quite dry. Lots of gems for those interested in critiques of civilization and patriarchy.

I just  read online that you are a WAPF chapter leader. I do hope you are not being targetted right now for any past so-called "transgressions"?

If the foundation closes down my chapter because of any so-called "transgressions" I won't lose any sleep over it. I don't gain anything by being a chapter leader, and I've received plenty of gratitude from those on my email list for providing both sides of the FCLO story.

For those who are interested, David Gumpert has posted a series of well-done blog entries about this controversy over the past few weeks. They are:

• Simmering cod liver oil imbroglio heats up for WAPF conference (October 2014)
• Major falling out at WAPF over 'fermented' cod liver oil (August 22, 2015)
• Cod liver oil recriminations escalate (August 25, 2015)
• Playing with fire: Why WAPF's cod liver oil wounds won't heal soon (August 30, 2015)
• Straight poop on cod liver oil dosage (ready to be confused?) (September 3, 2015)
• What would Dr. Price do about FCLO mess? (September 8, 2015)
• As dissension mounts, WAPF warns chapter leaders: Toe the line on FCLO (September 10, 2015)

I agree with you Satya, I think this controversy will hurt both WAPF and Green Pastures. I will probably send out my local chapter's monthly email update this week, and will include links to Daniels' report as well as Masterjohn's and Sally's rebuttals. I half expect to get an irate email from Sally for even acknowledging Daniels' report.

A few years back I went to a co-ed weekend workshop on intimacy and sexuality. After the initial introduction, the remainder of the workshop was clothing optional and most of us shed our clothes. The workshop facilitators covered the signs on the mens & womens restrooms, and made both of them un-gendered so that both men and women used both restrooms. The restrooms had multiple stalls and urinals, so every time I used it there were other men and women using it at the same time. It seemed to work fine, at least for those of us who were emotionally ready for such an adventure. Perhaps most people in the US are too burdened by shame and self-hatred to handle a situation like that.

I bet it's Derek (Sabertooth) just fucking with people. How long of a drive is this for you DN?

Nice articles, no surprises.

For another perspective, watch these two podcasts where Joe Rogan interviews Randall Carlson. They talk about a range of things, but one thing that comes up is how the climate change that started the last ice age was probably caused by an asteroid or comet impact, which also happened to cause the extinction of many large mammals around the world. I thought both interviews were well done:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R31SXuFeX0A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Cp7DrvNLQ