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In case of psychosis and negative thinking loop I recommend rest (take some time off electronics!) and going out in nature. Ideally find some good community once you are more stable. All the best!
It is YOU who are a PIGHEADED idiot who refuses the ANSWER given to your question simply because you disagree with my response to the New World Order problem.
While you choose to resign to defeat and choose your own genetic DEMISE. You sir are a LOSER.
I choose to SURVIVE, THRIVE and FIGHT.
From that point of view you can't consent to never being born either.
Someone is projecting their own childhood trauma and bonding issues on humanity.
I choose to further my bloodline.
andProud of it
By discouraging people of this forum from having children you are doing us all here a disservice. We are already a fringe minority and need to encourage people who enjoy the raw to adopt this evolutionarily regenerative way of life, and to pass it down to the next generation.
My original optimism when I began posting here over a decade ago, has become somewhat jaded in light of the state of affairs, but I still hold on to the inherent worth and value of the liberated individual, and the power of the unchained human mind to overcome all obstacles.
We are right now in an epic sociological war of attrition, which I view as adding layers of complexity to the already complex cycles of epigenetic adaptation, which has guided our evolution up unto this current phase. The depredating ethos espoused by PA and other vison lacking misanthropes such as Bertrand Russell, is just another layer of obviation in the Great Filter; standing in the path of the destiny of human kind!
Its time to dig down within the recesses of our collective human experience, and reactivate the awesome latent powers evolved out of the Apex Paleolithic hominid Predator's from which we spawned, and if we are to be doomed then let us not go without one hell of a fight!.....I refuse to sit aside while the human race goes out with such a pathetic whimper, lead by the hollow men who are hell bent determined to turn the once free people of earth into souless Gelflings; reducing the great spirit of humanity to the level of invitro-Metro-noid domestic slaves of the transhuman overlords!!
Lofty rhetoric aside, it may not be possible for us to mount a direct assaults' upon the machinations that are besieging the ramparts of the hold outs like ourselves who are not interested in participating in these self mutilation genetic genocidal experiments. I am taking a practical approach of making provisions for the long war! The Evolution processes has always in a way been like a war of attrition, culling the weak and dimwitted who couldn't last the long dark cold winters; this process of winnowing out the useless and nonviable was a vital part of a natural processes that once culled our numbers and set the balance in order.
Seen from the eyes of history, it is remarkable how Human evolution has on some levels broke free from the environmentally driven culling cyles of past eras, and has managed to develop a number of newfangled self culling behaviors, which combined with sexual selection, has shaped our species into something radically different from all other animals . The Genocidal nature of humanity, has its origins in the dominance hierarchies of our primate ancestors, and has been a driving force of the development of societies and civilization. In the past there were multiple hominid species, and through a long process of migration, interbreeding, and War it became a survival stratagem for the different races of Man to merge into what is now homosapien.
Holding together such a monolithically large convergent globe spanning organism called collective Humanity, while under constant pressures for divergence, is a mindboggling impossible feat. I am often in awe at how we have so far managed not to completely blow things up. Perhaps there is a hive mind that's evolving out of the melee of the multitudes. There are likely ancestral memories of past culls and die-off's, and certain signs in the environment will create a reediness for action. This explains how readily so many people accept conditions leading up to the great world wars and genocides of history. The current passivity of much of the population as we inter into this scientifically managed culling genocide, makes it seem like there is an instinctive resignation for a vast majority of the population to subjugate itself to a central authority, much in the same way the cells of the caterpillar will sacrifices themselves so that the butterfly can emerge from the corpse of the cocoon.
My objection to the systematic killing and scientifically engineering of society, is more than just a moral objection. If there was a truly wise and competent leadership overseeing the operation, I may not be so objectional to what's going on, unfortunately I feel that the individuals within the dominance hierarchy that is directing the actions have already fouled their own nest, and their judgments are perverted by their own polluted organisms. There is so much pervasive interference in the evolutionally processes... be it electromagnetic, heavy metals, poor nutrition, transgenerational genetic deformity, hormone disruption....that I dont trust the soundness of minds of those making all these grand plans for the rest of us.
So I advocate for the survival strategy of going rogue. Maintaining genetic integrity and reproductive viability should be the number one priority. We need to be the living seed banks of heirloom, unmodified, free range, organic, humanity....During this next generation of warfare the victors will be those who can survive long enough to see all the experimental humans either be culled or rendered infertile. Once the power structure of the failed coup against humanity catabolizes itself, then perhaps the meek can reemerge to inherit the wind and continue to life and evolve in a free world!
I believe PA said it best in this post https://www.rawpaleodietforum.com/index.php?topic=13770.msg149244#msg149244 he made a few days ago, where he quoted Bertrand Russel as following: ‘’Gradually, by selective breeding, the congenital differences between rulers and ruled will increase until they become almost different species. A revolt of the plebs would become as unthinkable as an organized insurrection of sheep against the practice of eating mutton.’’ - Bertrand Russell
As you can see, PA here is acting as the wolf in sheep's clothing, trying to convince those who are of higher value, to forgo their own biological prerogative to reproduce, hence helping ensure that only those of low value have offspring. This is all part of the same plan to create two very different races, one which is the ruling elite, healthy, strong willed, independent, intelligent, natural leaders, and the other, the slaves who will never have the means nor the desire to rebel due to being sick, cowardly, dependent, dumb and obedient to those in authority.
I don't believe PA is aware that he is serving them in this way. He's simply another pawn in their system. As much a victim of their mind control tactics as anyone.
Idk why that guy is on this forum.. he sounds like a total misanthropic vegan who is super unhealthy, angry and depressed and takes it out on everyone that is content in any way.
Lol I sense the same vibe, aggression and arguments as many vegans (including Durianrider who has made a vasectomy). Why the unfriendly, arrogant tone? Sounds a bit desperate to me. I was in that vegan/fruitarian circle for many years, and one of you totally reminds me of those rabid vegans, and I was so happy to escape that very immature scene, but obviously some still need to grow up.
My thoughts exactly!
What I have been doing all these years.
7 children and still making more.
Are we related?
Are you one of my children?
Exactly why we need to raise as many strong and good hearted people as possible.
Opposing an abominable elite and the effect they have on this world. So that the children of today can usher in a golden age.
They plant these defeatist thoughts in people's head. Growing up in an atomized heart- and soulless society solidifies a life bereft of meaning with depressive thoughts predominating. Makes it easier for them to reach their goal: Allowing only a rootless mongrelized docile midwit slave population to live. Living in a healthy tribe would cure this predicament.
You have the choice. Fight and either succeed or perish. Or deny yourself the option to triumph. You perish on your own accord.
Is it moral to abandon your fellow man in his struggle for a better world? Is it ethical to help a malicious elite in reaching their goals by your passivity? What is logical about choosing to become a genetic dead end? Wouldn't it be spiritually fulfilling to help create a wonderful world populated by decent good natured people even if not necessarily by reproducing yourself?
It's all by design. The sheep will be led astray by the wolves, and cheer on as their fellow sheep are sacrificed at the altar of the false gods. The falsemic should have made it completely clear for anyone who wasn't aware.
AV himself fell for the same trap. Unfortunately even serving the powers that be in this way was not enough to save him from meeting his ultimate end at the hands of BP.
90% of what political atheist says is true, yet he simply fails to realize that he is as much a pawn of the system as any of those he rants about.
Let those who wish to go extinct do so. Our overlords would not wish it any other way. Don't interfere.
I actually find this obtrusive and asinine abuse quite entertaining. Being called a retarded female is a hilariously absurd insult, and it makes me smile
"Ive never wanted something Rational" Alanis Morsette
I personally like and respect females of all ranges of intelligence, more so than I do most males, so its not insulting to me to be identified as having feminine traits. Though I admit the protective side of my masculine nature is a bit offended, and would like to slap you upside your silly incel face for being so derogatory toward women within my presence...so in leu of a fist fight, I insist a virtual spanking is in order!!
With such attitudes its no wonder why one would be sexually confused and hateful, tisk tisk. These perniciously anti Love of humanity sentiments are becoming extremely pervasive in modernia, and its a most unfortunate state of affairs that so many are so abjectly hateful towards human existence that they, if given the power, would deny the right of future generations to reproduce the experience life and the chance to evolve into mother earths wildest dreams come true.
Two can play this game, I typically dont lanch into such personal speculative attacks, but since none of my direct questions were ever even addressed, I will continue to ask???
Are there some mommy and daddy issues at work here...perhaps complicated by severe sexual repression???
Have you even tasted a raw fully fertile vagina? Do you have a moral aversion to healthy sexual experience??
Without sex human life can exist, so are you against Human existence??? If so whats the point of any talk about morality, ethics, or logic?? Without humans reproducing, such concepts wont even have a mind to contemplate??
Has any woman been interested in having your Baby??
The constant straw-manning is a bit tiresome...I can understand from a misanthropic perspective its pointless to have children, I will even grant you that this realm of existence can be at times extremely twisted and wicked...but it is a bit unbalanced to just generalize all of human existence into some kind of pointless fatalistic cycle of death, and label all parents as demonic for fulfilling their biological imperative to recreate . ( Would it be fair to speculate that someone with this viewpoint probably has some unresolved mommy and daddy issues?)
Life can be a tangled web indeed, and perhaps we humans are the result of coupling between the spider mothers and hell boys, if so then so be it. I say embrace your predatory nature! Eat Flesh and screw to your hearts content, and then go fourth and multiply; seeding your little hell-spawns far and wide...mewhahahaha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi7QiUORwN0
I don't drink alcohol or use narcotic drugs and only use marijuana occasionally now days, so in response to your question; I would say I am actually my most sober self.
Hopefully the peanut gallery will appreciate that I actually respond to direct questions with an Ernest spirit, and don't simply launch into personal attacks.
From the eastern philosophy of Samsara, suffering is an inevitable part of existence, and the ancient Vedic's believed that only the ignorant would deny such truth.
Perhaps there may be a human being who has managed to live a complete and fulfilling life without experiencing any suffering? I have yet to know of such a person, but if anyone here fits that level of perfection please feel free to introduce yourself?
Im trying to evoke just smidgen of humility and humor to a subject matter that is indeed very dark and dire....and being dense as a fence you don't notice the puns. The reference to "Ad- Hominid Attack" is a direct accusation of misanthropic nihilism!
I don't deny that the universe is from a certain perspective a catabolic monster, but this state of death and depravity is merely the other side of the coin of life. The suffering is the price we pay for admission to the greatest show in the cosmos! The human experience must be payed for from time to time with the blood of the innocent. Its unfortunate that many Men these days have too much sensitivity to stomach the facts of life, but this too is also a part of the dance of Kali!
'' The human experience must be payed for from time to time with the blood of the innocent'' - how high/drunk were you when you wrote that totally delusional non-sensical retarded sentence?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1kmKpjk_8E
If this is discussion is going to degenerate into a back and forth berating of belligerent ad-hominid attacks, from an edgelordian beyond reproach ethos, then please at least try a little harder on your insults, than claiming that I write like a girl.....
If there are women out there who could think and write like me, I would love to meat them
My general writing style is something that aims to Transend gender identity; I try to balance both male and female and the non binary perspective; I use juxtapose ,disparate and often times contrarian viewpoints to really dig into the absurdities of life.
My advice to other young men out there who may be a little more open minded, is to not get so hung up and uptight; learn to experiment with different types of family and relationship arrangements. Yes traditional familial and gender roles are completely toppsy turvy, so instead of trying to conform to outdated ideals, one must learn to adapt and evolve. Im currently a primary parent of 4 children, and had to take on many roles that were traditionally considered a mothers place. I also play the role of house maker for a woman who helps provide for me.
Its folly to be so ridged and dogmatic in these endeavors. In order to obtain a greater wisdom it is helpful to walk through many different incarnations, and play the various roles of the great spirit of humankind. There are literally millions of ways to live and relate to other humans, so why not try to experience many modes of life before deciding what kind of life and relationships you personally prefer.
Its true, Im just a hopelessly braindead love Zombie with an insatiable hunger for nonsensical sensual experiences; oh well Ive been called worse
Im still unsure how a mans embracing and reveling in the Estrous cycles of the feminine spirit can be seen as such an offensive phenomenon. This anti-reproductive trope does seem to be a pervasive sentiment among the new generations coming of age, and these kind of discussions may be helpful in trying to understand and hopefully challenge the anti-life worldview.
There was a time in my youth before having regular intercourse, and becoming fully addicted, that I would feel jaded by much of the modern perversion of the Game of Love, and to some extent I can easily relate to the Malthusian and misanthropic attitudes of anti -breeders. Long ago I made a decision to simply embrace the animal instincts and to stop fighting so hard against these primal inclinations. Perhaps there isn't any logic in giving oneself over to the animal lust, but I have personally found that trying to fight and repress it, can be even more of an insanity, and lead to even greater unhappiness, than just giving in to temptation.
Ideally if the endocrine systems are in sync, and the biological and emotional balance is compatible, then a mutuality can be formed between mates. The emersions within the phenomenal signaling feedback loops, and the regular releasing of oxytocin, will create a physical and emotional dependency, which can also be called a healthy pair bonding relationship( depending on how you chose to look at it) Its unfortunate that some view this evolutionary processes which was essential for the development of higher levels of human intelligence and cooperation, with such negativity; but alas to each their own....
Wow, talk about projection; luckily so far none of my children seem to fit such a grim and derogatory generalization.
I would be interested in any information regarding how regular exposure to women can lower a Mans IQ, or is somehow emasculating??? That's news to me and I would be greatly interested in seeing the evidence.
I actually prefer the company and friendship of Women, just as much as I enjoy their function as Breeding stock. I personally need a feminizing influence to mellow out my unusually excessive toxic masculinity.
Cultivation of the art of love is the most natural and uplifting of hobbies. The Pare bonding habits of mated Human were an essential part of shaping the growth of the more humane human attributes. The influence of sexual selection over the evolution of Homo Sapiens is paramount to evoking the passions and compassions that drove the species to reach new heights of intelligence. The human females capacity to take control of the selection process, by hiding her heat cycles, and selecting mates based on mental and emotional connection, over the purely physical dominance of more primitive primates; also lead to a increased overall intelligence, over a relatively short evolutionary period.
Can't believe someone with worldviews like this is on a forum dedicated to health, lmao
If a political atheist insist on beating this dead horse named logic, morality, ethics; I will indulge...
If one can find nothing logical about having a loving family, nothing moral about establishing the transgenerational transfer of knowledge between parent and child, nothing ethical about taking responsibility to shepherd children through the transformation of growing up;) then there can be no understanding between you and me!
For those who understand no explanation is necessary, for those who don't understand no explanation is possible!
This is why it has been said that " The Meek shall inherit the earth"
I think you are going a bit bonkers here.
Although I personally don't want to have kids, reproduction is simply the natural result of healthy and correctly functioning animals/humans. It is only within the past 100 years or so that people were able to make a "choice" about this part of life.
There are some good reasons, both personally and evolutionarily, to have children. Saber already mentioned the fact of having caretakers in your old age. This is how it would have been naturally before the invention of sick care homes for profit. Also, more people in a group means more protection from others and help with acquiring resources for survival (think groups of people needed for a hunt, gathering foods during a harvest etc.)
Yours and my perspectives are the unnatural ones and really contrary to survival. But we are what we are.
I also can't determine what the real agenda of the elites is. Simultaneously they are accused of actively decreasing world populations through their vegan and climate agendas being forced on people but at the same time pulling back women's reproductive rights to have more tax payers for the national debt...they are counterintuitive.
