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Servicing the bikes so we can start riding when it warms up....and ride to the lake for a swim a coupla times a week.
Today (Tuesday):
60 pull-ups
60 chin-ups
200 squats
400 calf raises
I believe what neone was saying was that alot of the ZCers will claim that - contrary to common knowledge - that without any carbs the body actually will perform extremely well in endurance type situations (far better than any carb loading), but that it won't perform as well in short burst type exercise or in building serious muscle mass. Again..this is THEIR claim.
I really don't know what the long term solution is for best health or even the the best program for lifting in the short term. I experiment with a variety of things but overall I have no problem with short term energy or building muscle eating next to no carbs. most of the carbs I eat are from animal sources like organs and eggs and vegetables like herbs and mushrooms. I'll eat some fruit when I got to the market and get whatever I want which is usually 1-2 pieces of fruit 1-2 times a week.
So while I don't know if any of this is even healthy, I can say that if one is serious about using fat efficiently for energy ts certainly a commitment that might require an entire year or more of shitty symptoms... including massive chronic fatigue and virtually no energy for exercise. just my experience.
you know, we had another guy similar to you who had been all drugged up and had learned all the dark secrets of bodybuilding
and how everyone now had to do bike sprints or whatever.
you are still missing or fudging some fundamental things
for one, you can do bench press one day a week for 10 minutes and have better results than hours of swimming.
swimming is a refinement exercise. If you want a body like Iggy Pop, you swim in the ocean. Thats what he did, and it works. However it happens to be a tremendous amount of effort, time and energy that most people cannot afford. swimming in a pool is probably the most diametrically opposite thing to healthful exercise I can possibly think of, so it doesn't even possibly qualify as a healthy substitute for anything - including nautilus machines - as there is only negative net health there.
all these other things similarly you are massively trading efficiency (power-lifting) for time and energy, which also means added calories. I personally do not have these to spare, therefore anything other than short spurts of speed and cardio worked into full body exercises like box jumping, lateral jumps, lunges and jump roping have any use for me.
This idea that being able to swim or run is somehow useful skills is just totally subjective.
My statistical guess is .05999 percent of people I have ever met....scratch that:looked in the eye have ever needed to swim, run, or fight for their life. 99.999999% of people that are involved in running, bodybuilding, crossfit, powerlifting are just trying to get the type of body that they find is ideal and to hopefully also increase their overall health.
So while essentially everything you happen to now prize as the highest echelons of 'paleo' health I see as useless, I do gauge that many people even on this site could not lift my Slankers order (60 lbs) up to my third floor apartment. To me this is something useful, as with similar uses of basic lifting augmented by strength training exercise.
Back to bench, you can get excellent results just doing burpees and dips but they don't yield the same specific result, so therefore there is 0 critical argument there, making the only plausible argument one of safety.
if you are lifting weights, its probably a safer bet to focus on functional strength rather than isolated exercises. This is pretty much the only 'truth' I can see. as for benching..virtually every member of Iron Addicts does bench press, and these guys are all competitive strength trainers and not bodybuilders. Some of these guys are in their 50's and 60's. Years not doing bench did nothing positive for me and had the obvious result.
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the other things is this is a health forum thats unlike others in the sense that it promotes a diet which proves particularly cataboliizing for most folks (by this I mean muscle built from old materials, not muscle built on the diet.) making much of this irrelevant anyway.
Its possible you've radically re-examined your past errors or whatever but if you are interested in truly learning in clearing out old drugs, tissues, and then re-building muscles on a raw diet, perhaps you are still somewhat oversimplifying things.
seeing as i seem to be saying every gym exercise is crap i thought for the sake of clarity i will mention some that i think are NOT crap:
* bent over barbell row
* power clean
* standing press
* lunges ( although frankly i never did them, but they make sense )
also for any exercise that can be performed unilaterally ( one side at a time ) you should occasionally do it that way. for example you should sometimes row with just one hand ( but don't assume you can handle half the weight you do with both hands - as it becomes a completely different exercise - so start from a safe low weight ).
* one of my favorite gym exercises is something i have never seen anybody do except me. it is a unilateral pull down. if you were climbing a mountain you would essentially be doing chin ups unilaterally - one hand at a time.
i used to work out in that rep range 5-6 reps per set. you get very strong but i wouldn't say very fit that way. and you also don't get the best possible muscle size this way either.
if all you do is low reps and you then go to a swimming pool and try to swim a few laps you will almost explode with pump afterwards. try to switch up the rep range once in a while, or use supersets for better pump.
i suggest you vary your rep range anywhere from 3 reps 30+ reps instead of always hitting the same 6 reps. don't let your muscle settle into a comfort rep zone
why not wear something like vibram five fingers ?
i run on pavement for practical reasons - because if i ever have to run in real life it is likely to be on pavement.
the calf can either be trained by ECCENTRIC contraction which occurs ONLY when you run ( and i mean RUN, not jog ). or they can be trained by continuous overload ( hours at a time ) like hiking some mountains for the entire day for example. you can't build calves in the gym - not possible. this is my own theory but i know i am right.
the range of motion is wrong. just because it hits the right muscles doesn't mean it takes them through the right range of motion. you don't get full contraction ( in chest and shoulders ) on the top and you overstretch ( risking injury ) on the bottom. with cables i can adjust the range of motion until its just right depending on how i do them.
pioneer, actually what neone wrote was half decent(the jabs AT alpha males, were not...they are victims of the system to we must remember)
i do not think wanting to make more children is the most horrendous idea but i agree that over population is just another unsustainable practice...i mean honestly i am scared for the world I will live in in 10 years, do i really want to bring someone into that? is it possible for me to spend my energy shaping a world i would want to bring children into and raising a child and keeping healthful enough to continue being beneficial?? i mean these are honest questions and i think they are very realistic for our times...i often worry that if i do not have children soon i will not be able to, but i would really like the world to be a much nicer future for them..i am not sure............what i do know is that its best to be in control of ones mating urges regardless of marital status, financial status, health status, etc. and to always keep the future of yourself, your children, your communities and environment in mind because all of these elements influence who you are and how well your experience upon this earth is............
Im not telling you to have less sex or anything. If you're with a partner and condoms isnt necessary then you can always use the methods that my wife and i use, which is combining 'Family Planning' method with withdrawl and neem seed oil. You can still have a fulfilling sensual sex life while greatly increasing the odds of not conceiving.
But I dont actually expect people to expand their caring bubble outside of their own circles and i fully expect the world to run itself into the ground long before people realize they need to come together intellectually.
I think a lot of you dont get that you're still all part of 'the system'. You either get your food from it, or get your food from people who are a part of it. So once it starts going to shit and the prices go up, you're going to find yourselves hungry. No, other people arent going on raw paleo diets.. but as soon as they're having REAL trouble getting food, those hearts i buy for $1.50 a lb are going to be looking pretty good.
And Pioneer, a zebra being killed relatively quickly and eaten for food is NOT THE SAME kind of suffering that a single mother with two kids and six jobs has to go through. (because the zebra dies and cannot learn from its suffering... haha)
Your dumbass thinking would mean that somebody who was locked in a cage and raped every day for 10 years is a better person because they had to 'suffer' more.. right? or is that not what you meant, and what you were really saying is that adversary and challenges builds character, mabye a little pain... but to say that the world has to SUFFER? what kind of sadistic shit is that? Better tell your kids to sleep outside in the rain because all that suffering they're going to do, they'll thank you for later.
I think you guys want to have your cake, and eat it too. You all go on about being true paleo and stuff, and fucking and breeding are paleo and since im a !!REAL ALHPA MALE!! i can do whatever the fuck i want to!! but dont realise you're not living in paleo times, and the rules have changed, and you cant just go and 'DO WHATEVER I WANT!' (because you're a badass alpha male) because you're fucking it all up. You neuter your dogs because they are hella paleo and 'do whatever the fuck they want' and can understand that an unchecked animal population is not a good idea, but fail to take a look at ourselves and mabye instead of having to cut our sex organs out, we could just.. you know.. be smart.
1 - you could beat the **** out of him ( martial arts )
2 - you could outrun him ( running )
3 - you could outswim him ( swimming )
4 - you could outclimb him ( hiking, climbing )
but you certainly couldn't use any WEIGHTS let alone MACHINES ( nautilus etc ) to do it.
dips are a garbage exercise by the way - my condolences to those of you who perform them.
chinup is the best exercise that you can do in the gym - they make you do chin ups in any army.
deadlift isn't bad, but you have to not go overboard with deadlifting. your leg workout must be about 90% running and 10% deadlifts, not more.
i was in the gym today. i had the same workout i always do ( when i am in the gym that is, which is about once a week ). first i ran on the treadmill ( it is raining outside ) for about half a mile at 9 mph. then i did some power cleans, some chin ups, some standing presses ( with dumbbells ) and some cable crossovers ( flys ) for chest.
i do cable crossover in place of push ups. push up of course is of course a staple exercise in the military ( along with running, swimming and chinups ) but between bench press, pushups and dips for me i always had best results with cable crossovers because unlike most people i actually know how to do them.
anyway i apologize for posting all this in the wrong thread - it just kinda happened this way.
Yeah, that was a bold sweeping comment and it wasnt meant personally or to be taken as a literal truth. Its just my sense of humor, how everyone thinks they're a perfect specimen producing flawless offspring haha. (or mabye you still wont find that funny... im not talking about *YOU PERSONALLY*, i am being general.)
When you use withdrawl method coupled with condoms, you're pretty serious about not having children.
I have two siblings, younger and older.
I dont see if you were having a child for the 'right' reasons, that you would be 'unhappy' with it.. mabye i would have to have a child myself before i understood the disapointment that your first might bring, where you might get luckier on your second and they wont shame you as much.... haha.
But seriously... could you imagine what would happen if your entire town started eating a paleo diet? You would soon realize what i mean when i say that your diet is a privilege. You and your family can eat 10 pounds of animal product a day because other families are living off of grain. There is not enough quality food to go around, so if we already have a problem (what is it, 1/4 of the worlds population is malnurished?) and you guys on here are saying everybody should go ahead and have 4 children (and in 20 years those 4 children have the 'right' to have another 4 kids... etc..) what are you thinking? unless you're not, and you're just thinking about yourselves and your own families and aren't thinking about the big picture (which you are a part of)..
But then again, you're just being PALEO right? Every small tribe for themselves.....
I think the world has enough people already, and as awesome as you think your genetics are and what a boon to the world your offspring will be.. they're not, they're just even more mouths to feed and add to the already overpopulated world. I think people should only have one child that you put everything into, that would be a responsible thing to do, i would think.
