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Offline RogueFarmer

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Re: Solution for hair loss?
« Reply #50 on: October 02, 2011, 04:23:33 pm »
Not according to Dr. Bass who is I believe 97 years old.

I dunno, not worried about cancer at all to be honest.
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Re: Solution for hair loss?
« Reply #51 on: October 02, 2011, 09:28:12 pm »
Many people have claimed in the past that "excessive" ejaculation causes hairloss (often without defining "excessive"), but so far I haven't seen any provide before and after photos (which wouldn't be proof, but not even bothering to provide any evidence suggests BSing). If you regrow hair due to lack of ejaculation, provide the before and after photos and then I might take it seriously. Until then, it's highly suspect. After all, if it were true, then wouldn't male porn stars be the baldest of men?
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Re: Solution for hair loss?
« Reply #52 on: October 02, 2011, 09:57:19 pm »
Quote from: spacecowboy on October 02, 2011, 04:23:33 pm
Not according to Dr. Bass who is I believe 97 years old.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7QoP4Y37RM  According to this video interview he'd be turning about 93 right now, spacecow boy.  I've met Dr Stanley (as he is a retired non-practicing chiropractor) in person and heard him out there extensively, and I'll vouch he is human.  What exactly did Stanley Bass say to you reference these topics?  Humans can make mistakes anyway.  Remember the natural hygiene movement way back when was mostly fasting, high pressure colonic irrigations, fruit and salad.  Anything that would support not-ejaculating, like presenting scientific suppositions that it would make a guy's hair fall out might not be out of the question.  Actually I know an otherwise healthy guy that lost his hair while being faithful to his celibate wife (they were monogamous) and I would say he didn't masturbate either.  Well, I guess that could be stressful in itself, may be part of the hair-loss.    
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Re: Solution for hair loss?
« Reply #53 on: October 02, 2011, 10:20:35 pm »
And based on that video it looks like Dr. Bass has a fair amount of baldness himself, so I'm not getting how his advice on hair loss would be particularly relevant, unless he only recently adopted the view that excessive ejaculation causes hair loss and his hair has started regrowing since then?
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>"When some one eats an Epi paleo Rx template and follows the rules of circadian biology they get plenty of starches when they are available three out of the four seasons." -Jack Kruse, MD
>"I recommend 20 percent of calories from carbs, depending on the size of the person" -Ron Rosedale, MD (in other words, NOT zero carbs) http://preview.tinyurl.com/6ogtan
>Finding a diet you can tolerate is not the same as fixing what's wrong. -Tim Steele
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Re: Solution for hair loss?
« Reply #54 on: October 03, 2011, 02:59:02 am »
He didn't have advice on hair loss. The idea of lack of ejaculation causing cancer was brought up. Bass wrote a whole book about male continence called "Energy Karezza".

You know if our bodies really need to ejaculate they will just do it in a wet dream no? Or will that cause prostate cancer too?

Also, if you aren't bald in your 90's you surely should be counting your blessings! Though my great grandpa wasn't.

I don't think it's about ejaculation directly. Frankly I can't remember the name of the hormone that is caused by masterbation/frantic sex/fight or flight, but that is what I am blaming for hair loss.

Ah, I think it was serotonin.
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Re: Solution for hair loss?
« Reply #55 on: October 03, 2011, 04:32:01 am »
Quote from: spacecowboy on October 03, 2011, 02:59:02 am
You know if our bodies really need to ejaculate they will just do it in a wet dream no? Or will that cause prostate cancer too?
Ejaculation was not found to be correlated with increased risk of prostate cancer, low frequency of ejaculation was. I think the point about the prostate cancer has more implications beyond prostate cancer. It and other findings suggest that not ejaculating has multiple negative effects. It's not like someone is perfectly healthy and then suddenly gets prostate cancer. There's a long, often unseen, buildup of ill health over time that eventually develops into full blown prostate cancer. Greater frequency of ejaculation has also been found to have other benefits in both humans and animals, but that's a story for another thread topic.

You can point to Dr. Bass re: limiting ejaculation, but I can point to Aajonus Vonderplanitz, who is pro-frequent-ejaculation (as are the results of multiple studies). Pointing to gurus is regarded as a logical fallacy called arguing from authority and doesn't prove anything.

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I don't think it's about ejaculation directly.
We agree and I think the other hypothesized factor you mentioned--stress--is more likely a real exacerbating factor in hair loss than ejaculation, though I don't think there's enough evidence to term it the main underlying cause of chronic male pattern hair loss, as there could be one or more factors underlying the stress, such as the combined effects of the whole modern diet and lifestyle (in addition to other factors like genetic susceptibility to both chronic stress and hair loss).
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>"When some one eats an Epi paleo Rx template and follows the rules of circadian biology they get plenty of starches when they are available three out of the four seasons." -Jack Kruse, MD
>"I recommend 20 percent of calories from carbs, depending on the size of the person" -Ron Rosedale, MD (in other words, NOT zero carbs) http://preview.tinyurl.com/6ogtan
>Finding a diet you can tolerate is not the same as fixing what's wrong. -Tim Steele
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Re: Solution for hair loss?
« Reply #56 on: April 05, 2012, 05:08:35 am »
I think avoiding too much carbs would help those who carry the gene of hair loss. I think the gene is triggered by carbs and sugar rich diets. I could be wrong though, Just my guess
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Re: Solution for hair loss?
« Reply #57 on: April 05, 2012, 07:25:32 am »
You know what's really surprising? According to the 23andme DNA test I did, I DON'T have the gene for increased risk of male pattern baldness--I reportedly have "typical odds" for baldness and actually slightly increased odds for "curly hair" (which one of my uncles does have and my hair is somewhat wavy). Yet I am balding, my father is completely bald and all the other men in my family are losing hair. Go figure. Apparently, it seems that baldness has way more to do with epigenetics (the effect of environment on gene expression) than DNA. This and other results of my DNA test and other research suggest that often things are not as they seem and the truth is often contrary to our assumptions. Environnmental factors appear to be way more important than DNA on such matters, if the experiences of my clan are any indicator. Much of the way we are seems to be due to epigenetics, rather than genetics. It's a new field of science and quite exciting.

Here's my speculation--the microbiota in us account for WAY more genes than what we ourselves have, and when they are imbalanced their influence thus can easily override our DNA. Just a thought. Not trying to start an argument.
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>"When some one eats an Epi paleo Rx template and follows the rules of circadian biology they get plenty of starches when they are available three out of the four seasons." -Jack Kruse, MD
>"I recommend 20 percent of calories from carbs, depending on the size of the person" -Ron Rosedale, MD (in other words, NOT zero carbs) http://preview.tinyurl.com/6ogtan
>Finding a diet you can tolerate is not the same as fixing what's wrong. -Tim Steele
Beware of problems from chronic Very Low Carb

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Re: Solution for hair loss?
« Reply #58 on: April 05, 2012, 02:55:30 pm »
Hi J.O when i came to live in England i started losing my hair so i cut it short in 2007 i started taking armour and adrenal and my hair come back.

Then last year i started losing my hair again and Dr Peatfield said i needed progesterone as I was going through the menopause.

So it could be your hormones need looking up.


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Re: Solution for hair loss?
« Reply #59 on: April 06, 2012, 12:37:28 pm »
egg yolks, from pastured chickens.  And after twenty plus years using baking soda as shampoo and body soap, I've switched to using a thick creamy mixture of bentonite.  I really work into my scalp and let it sit there while I steam shower or sit in a tub.  I have this little test to see how much my hair is falling out,,,  vigorously rub your scalp with finger tips over your bed white bed sheet or pillow.  I can hardly get more than a couple to come loose.  Also using a  100 percent bore bristle brush  often on your scalp/hair.  It exfoliates the dead skin cells and opens the sebum gland at the base of every hair follicle.  I wash my brushes often in warm water. 
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Re: Solution for hair loss?
« Reply #60 on: April 13, 2012, 05:33:59 pm »
Try to Get in the habit of using everything natural for your hair and body that way you should not have any side effects.
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