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Monsanto and Mickey Dees losing money
« on: March 13, 2015, 08:02:30 am »
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Re: Monsanto and Mickey Dees losing money
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2015, 08:34:49 pm »
fuck these companies. May the boards of directors and upper executives experience poverty and homelessness.

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Re: Monsanto and Mickey Dees losing money
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2015, 11:16:05 pm »
I listened to a show once that explained simply that there are many massive companies that are in the dustbin of broken dreams . If they cross over the line, eventually they wither and die.

These two have crossed over many lines. Macdonalds is basically responsible for the death of the old food system. They created factory farms, destroyed landscapes and lives.

This guy is the antithesis of MacDonalds. His explanation of history is spot on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYWYU5V8JOo
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Re: Monsanto and Mickey Dees losing money
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2015, 06:37:47 am »
Monsanto is certainly to be despised.... but what did Mcdonalds do? 

They gave the public exactly what it wanted - extremely cheap food.
If they hadn't someone else would have.


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Re: Monsanto and Mickey Dees losing money
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2015, 06:43:48 am »
They gamed the whole system in their favour, through paying off politicians, squashing small town butchers/farmers etc all over the country. They created factory farms, massive feed finishing lots and last time I check they winnowed all this down to 13 operations across the country.

There is a certain amount of truth in what you say and maybe they just fast forwarded the process.

They have systematically made a science out of poisoning.
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Re: Monsanto and Mickey Dees losing money
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2015, 08:19:48 am »
It's one of those "who knew?" things. MacDonald's was just an American meal (burger, fries, milk shake) that would feed your family of four with change back from a dollar. Ray Kroc was a great operations manager who knew how to keep the cost of dining down. His franchises were duplicatable. His management training let a lot of earnest kids make a white-collar career. The lure of agricultural science was that it make robust-looking field products such as unblemished potatoes.

The moral dilemma came when the science revealed its dark side. The nice, smooth potato was clearly destructive to its own fields and the people who ate it.

It's a US corporation's character test. To be sure, there are people like the tobacco barons that walk away from the family evil-doing, but that doesn't kill the corporation. Why? Because the corporation is owned by a bazillion shareholders (it has almost a billion shares), and its only aim is to keep the share price up. Any dissenter, no matter how valuable to the corporation, won't be needed once he blows the whistle; he'll fade into anonymity and the shareholders will be happy again.

"Better living through chemistry," was chemical company DuPont's slogan and the motto of every American in the 20th Century. That attitude even convinced most American mothers to abandon breastfeeding her children. Our American Dream has clouded our judgment. No one company is to blame, but the US is an oligarchy, and the power brokers are the oligarchs, so it's hard to dethrone them.

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Re: Monsanto and Mickey Dees losing money
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2015, 09:41:56 am »
 McDonalds extremely cheap food is subsidized heavily by the US government, giving them an unfair advantage in the market.

They get corporate tax breaks which allow for millions in CEO pay, while their average employ is living on the poverty line, and eligible for food stamps and medical cards.

Without government subsidies the dollar menu would not be possible.

Monsanto is a different monster, their employees at the production level must be intelligent enough to know what they are doing. The scientist in their labs and distributors of their chemicals have got to be aware of the fraud being perpetrated, and the inadequacy's of their safety studies being used to get their poison approved for human consumption. They must be paid very well in order to go along with the overlords on the corporate board. There must be governmental officials who are being paid very well to look the other way.

Without government corruption Monsanto would not be profitable.

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Re: Monsanto and Mickey Dees losing money
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2015, 03:35:28 am »
This response from a friend to the Macdonald ownership list

"Impressive/terrifying list to be sure but it holds some inaccuracies or overstatements. They may hold a stock in Coke but not controlling interest. In any case, the full skill and power of the US military stands behind their efforts and their behaviour seems to require the need for this level of support. Sometimes it appears effectively that is all that country really is is a kind of military services Co-Op, a practical way of dealing with ongoing or future threats that other citizens have to pay for to. HELL of a deal."
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