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PaganGoy:
Greetings,
I have already looked into the health benefits of RVAF and just need some questions answered for me conclusively before I can start.  This forum is a bit hard for me to navigate to find the info im looking for.  Raw meat consumption is considered greatly to be a fringe activity after all. 
I understand the concept of symbiosis but have not come across any links or conclusive discussions as of yet about parasites.

1. Are there any serious harmful toxins or parasites that I can get if I eat applicable raw grass fed animals like beef? (links? opinions?)
- Furthermore how does symbiosis come into play here and how are raw fish, as well as raw chicken parasites and viruses different to us than other animals?

2. If I eat some, but not alot of raw meat or stop eating raw meat all together will I run into problems with parasite growth infestation?

3.  How should I handle a parasite infestation if I were to suspect one?

4. Should raw animals eaten ALWAYS be free of hormones/antibiotics (organic supermarket meat)?

5. What are the side effects? I saw a forum post about cholesterol build up in someones eye from possibly eating backfat. 0_0

6. Can i store meat in an opened container in my fridge and how long?

7. Most of the grass fed meat etc at my organic market are in vacuum sealed plastic, is this ok?
How long can it stay in there? etc

8. Can I start eating raw stuff whenever I want without a raw nutritional coach or professional?

ALOT of the websites listed on this site are completely out of order.

Apani:
I'll answer some:

4. Yes.
Also, supermarket meat is normally trash, unless you luck out and find some wild game. And the organic label is worthless as far as it concerns meat. It just means that the animal was only ever given organic feed; cows fed organic bran and organic flour, whilst being confined into a feedlot for the entirety of their adulthood, totally qualify as organic... that's hardly any better than the kind of meat you could get a McDonald's.
Go to a butcher and ask for grass-fed instead.

6. I generally eat my meat as soon as I get it. But some RPDers also prepare high meat, which is meat intentionally left to rot. So, if you leave a piece of meat for one or two weeks in the fridge, it might stink up your kitchen and have a stronger, more pungent taste, but it's definitedly still edible.

7. When I buy vacuum-sealed meat, I get it out of the bag and put it on a dish as soon as I can. Keeping meat in an anaerobic environment can cause botulism, and you certainly don't want plastic to leech out.

8. I'm pretty sure none of us here started with a coach or a nutritionist (also because, if you talk about a raw meat to a nutritionist, they'll think you're crazy).
You could start out by cooking your meat less and less as time goes on, until you finally can have it raw. You could also try to make carpaccio, which is thinly-sliced raw meat marinated in lemon juice.

TylerDurden:
Answers:-

1)  Very unlikely indeed. Let's put it this way, so-called "food-poisoning" deaths usually happen to vulnerable people such as sick  babies and  ill older folks. This is not because the raw meat is dangerous per se, but because the human body, once it starts suddenly getting lots of healthy raw food, goes into detox mode, and people already in ill-health  might not survive the symptoms of a detox.I will grant you that one might eat raw animal food from an animal that has been eating very sick, unhealthy food, but the general rule is that you would just vomit afterwards, and it would be gone, either that or subsequent diarrhea.

Parasites are very rare in the RVAF diet community. This is because, in advanced countries, animals/fish etc. are carefully inspected prior to sale,  plus the stomach-intestines are usually thrown away and not sold.  Granted, if you live in Vietnam or similiar country, you might have a very rare chance of, for example, getting trichinosis from eating raw pork, but most countries would be fine.

I've been eating RVAF diets for  over 15 years, and only once did I get parasites. These were harmless tapeworms which did not harm me, healthwise, generally.  I got rid of them after some months only because they kept on popping out my anus even when I was not excreting, and the pieces thereof stank. I easily got rid of them by getting a  prescription from my doctor. I think it was praziquantel. Took 2 days to remove the dead tapeworms via usual path.So, parasites are very rare, not necessarily harmful, and easily removeable via modern medicine.

2) No.

3)  Go to a doctor.

4) Yes. I have heard of some RVAFers who got healthy even after eating raw intensively-farmed meat, but I suspect most would do far better on  meat not raised on hormones/antibiotics etc.

5) Side-effects= occasional detox until you get well. After that, you will mostly only experience detox after eating cooked foods or  toxic raw foods. No one bothers re cholesterol, it's not even a proven thing in conventional diet-circles. Basically, one has to experience RVAF diets personally before one realises that all the media-driven myths about RVAF diets are all wrong, whether it is the absurd notion that eating raw animal food is deadly within weeks, or  whatever. It took me 3 years of going RVAF before I tried high-meats, because I was so scared of dying as a result, but found that the rotten-meat scares were also a load of nonsense.

6) Some of us eat high-meat stored over weeks/months with no problems.

7) I find I have to open vacuum-packed meat within 7 days at the most or the taste will be very nasty due to anaerobic  bacteria activity. Best to open it  days before, imo,

8) Yes. Nothing wrong with reading various gurus books on RVAF diets, but the trouble is that everyone is different, whether in terms of genetics or health-status, age etc., so all newbies have to experiment to see what works for them. In my own case, I found, over time, that I was allergic to even raw dairy, that raw coconut oil always gave me nasty stomach-aches, that  I needed 10% minimum/50% maximum raw wildcaught seafood in my diet to feel the absolute best re energy/drive etc., and that raw wild game was far tastier than raw grassfed meats, and, imo, healthier.

That said, learning from others can help too. One thing that worked for me was to read every single post in the archives of various RVAF diet online forums and, that way, not only did I find answers to my questions but I even discovered answers to questions that I hadn't even thought of asking but should have..

PaganGoy:
Interesting, well thank you both for your time.  Under these circumstances I can expect to start soon, probably with coconut oil as a fat and then maybe grass fed beef backfat if I can find a butcher or farmer etc in my local area.

Here in Canada im pretty sure we are the only Country in the world to ban raw milk which absolutely sucks because I love using butter even if I've only ever had the pasteurized stuff.

TylerDurden:
https://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/how-to-get-raw-milk-in-canada/

https://www.realmilk.com/real-milk-finder/other-countries/#can

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