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Jordan Peterson has gone carnivore
« on: July 03, 2018, 08:43:06 am »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGikB-54Lwk

This testament is good publicity for a meat based diet, though they eat cooked meats....... perhaps if anyone could reach out and suggest the benefits of raw paleo to Jordan and his daughter it may help raw paleo get some positive attention.

Rogan would also be someone to reach out to regarding raw paleo, he has already interviewed a number of cooked paleo, and heavily carnivorous people but the topic of going raw has yet to be broached. His audience is huge and if anyone in the raw community could contact him, he might be open to give us a fare hearing.
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Re: Jordan Peterson has gone carnivore
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2018, 02:19:50 am »
I am believed to have made contact with one of the Petersons.... at least I got a thumbs up response to a message that outlined the basic concept of a Raw Paleo diet, how it has healed me, and that I would like to offer some suggestions on how to make low carb carnivore work in the long term . Im trying to play it cool and not too blatantly badger the celebs who are discovering benefits of cooked keto with the Raw Message. So I just sent a link to the forum and planted the embryo of thought, in hopes that this movement will continue to grow.

There is always this hope that one day the Petersons will invite me out to dinner, we can wax philosophic while dining on raw meat, and I could have the opertunity to present, in open discussion, some of my more off the wall insights that has been gained by the raw paleo experience; to influential people who are receptive to new ways of understanding the nuranced connections between life, spirit, health, intellect and nutrition, from a most Excellent and Raw Perspective.

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Re: Jordan Peterson has gone carnivore
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2018, 08:17:32 pm »
I have been thinking about reaching out to Jordan to come on my podcast.
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Re: Jordan Peterson has gone carnivore
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2018, 10:31:49 am »
It would be a huge plus for raw foodies everywhere for anyone of his renowned to have open discussion on the benefits of going raw.

https://www.menshealth.com/weight-loss/a19538196/lebron-james-weight-loss/

Lebron James is another prominent celebrity that if introduced to the power of Raw could jump-start the movement overnight.

There was always in my mind this slow game approach when it came to introducing this way of living to the modern world(my previous post here over the years will back up the bravado) Back around 2011 I began to truly believe that it would only be a matter of time before low carb meat based diets would come to the forefront of the mainstream nutritional debate.

The avant-gard cause celeb of Low Carb Cooked paleo is now being more accepted by the mainstream ethos. If we continue to work with diligence and tact from the periphery to prime the evolving consciousness and guide new initiates toward the Raw side of life, then it may not be very long before the movement reaches critical mass requirements for a dietary counter revolution....that is needed to transcend the limitations to our further evolution, placed on us by the social and nutritional confines that now exist at the end point of the neolithic agrarian revolution.

Much was learned through suffering and try-umph over the last 10,000 round the sun. The once wild world matured, it mutilated, mutated, sacrificed and then transferred its natural incarnate creative powers into the human world, from which billions of interconnected nodes of unfathomable neurological power, spread like mind fire. The entire race of the free and bound, every brother, sister, father, mother grown from the substrate of Neolithic thought, rot, and toil...brought to and beyond the ever present point of no return.... many have already reached the end of this bread line, after many lifetimes of great depression, many more will soon follow, no longer to tolerate a gluten fueled gluttonous existence. The signaling for alternative sources of fuel to energize the next stage of life experience with a new purpose has begun, the beacons are being ignited. Though the fog be thick and night darkness dims many minds, faint light hits the distant shores where bright eyes looking forever forward, see beyond the lost worlds shrouds with a head high, feet on the ground and oppossable thumbs up . Hold on no longer to the past and mobilize for nigh is the time of great transformation. The time is ripe to take the next leap, ye of Raw faith and fortune get ready to lead the charge!
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Re: Jordan Peterson has gone carnivore
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2018, 11:59:08 pm »

Jordan Peterson’s Carnivore Diet – SHOULD YOU TRY IT?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhiB1KCAUOw

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Re: Jordan Peterson has gone carnivore
« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 07:30:16 am »
I never put much stock in anything Jordan Peterson ever said but damn he sure looks a lot better since he started his carnivore diet.

I went back and tried to reconstruct my diet based on posts I've made on this and other forums and when I was at my best in mid April able to do 26 pullups I was eating darn near carnivore with the exception of lots of lemons and a tablespoon or 2 of wheatgrass juice powder. Been on that diet for the past few days and I can really feel the difference.

Also when I was eating all those sprouts recently, I felt a little hopeless and depressed and now I feel back to my old self; but still only up to 15 from twelve pull ups a few days ago. Been watching a lot of carnivore videos about other people and am really starting to suspect that a lot of plants contain poisons designed to keep animals from eating them. I've also gone back to eating a little extremely rare meat as a treat, instead of 100 percent raw: meat, fruit and vegetables.

Thinking about how eating all those sprouts and vegetables lately has affected my mood and I can sort of relate to all the hostility that seems to come from so many vegans.

Not sure why I changed my diet when I was at my peak in April. I remember thinking "I'm not eating enough vegetables" and things seem to have progressed down hill from there. These past few months I've been experimenting all over the place. Felt better eating a few legumes but not 100% right. 

I also been using lots of essential oils recently and noticing some kidney pain when I wake up in the mornings. I cut way down on those too as I think even wearing them on my skin is putting unnecessary stress on my kidneys. To be honest I'm worried that I may develop some body odor from all the meat I been eating. Maybe the wheatgrass will also help with that and I wont feel the need to use the oils that much.

Enough rambling. Anybody still with me?

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Re: Jordan Peterson has gone carnivore
« Reply #8 on: Today at 05:54:13 am »
I am with you and I´d like to share my experience after being on the carnivore since July.

I eat cooked lamb shanks, beef ribs in water and lately chicken drum sticks and chicken legs. Lamb and beef I soak in salt water for a couple of hours to get the minerals out of the bones (dunno if that works but I don´t want to use any plant substances such as vinegar or lemon juice) and boil them for 3-4 hours in water. Then I eat the whole meat broth with no added spices whatsoever, only the already added salt. Chicken I put in the oven for 1-2 hours on 180 degrees celcius to make them soft. I eat that with salt and sometimes commercial mustard. I found these 3 meats to be the best for me. Turkey would be better in terms of fat content but the feed is worse so I stay with chicken. Pork, even though soaked in vinegar or salt to remove the lectins causes issues. Fish my body doesn´t crave. I sometimes do eat beef tartare with beef, egg yolk and salt. With every meal I eat I have a lot of raw goat cheese and raw milk, either goat or sheep.

In the 4 months I eat carnivore I had around 5 cheat meals which consisted of button mushrooms, veggies in sauces such as garlic, onion, potatoes and some herbs and once I had ice cream. I do drink green tea daily and sometimes have raw greek honey, but I´m still uncertain regarding that. My blood pressure is very good. Blood test pending.

There is something else that I would suggest doing if you want to know the conditions of your organs. Follow the instructions of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyTgkGPNxks when you will do the excercises at the end (circling the area), lying on your belly, you will feel a sensation at the organs that are in trouble. Sensation meaning when you touch them you get very sensitive and you might need to stop. That can be around the kindeys, bowels, liver, gallbladder or solar plexus. I find this excercise to be very precise and very effective. First time I did it I had an enormous emotional reaction. So the less you feel there the better off your organs are, at least in my experience and opinion.

I don´t eat plant foods after carnivore, I do experiment with alcohols such as red wine, sherry, fernet branca, swedish bitters and other alcohols to increase my HCI, but so far I don´t think any of those really works except red wine. As far as I know alcohol increases HCI and it always works for me. I tried for the 3rd time to have HCI tablets but it makes me fell ill in the stomach and blocks digestion so I stopped. I remember AV saying that HCI supplements arent´t good. He might have been right here. In one of his interviews he noted:

https://soundcloud.com/oneradionetwork/062311_vonderplanitz_aajonus_primal_diet_one

"HCI supplement is bad as its not complete, and it can inhibit certain bacteria to digest food and not assimilate it properly. So u may have poorly digested proteins."

I tried HCI supplements with different intervals. Before food, with food, 15 min after food, 30 min after food and 45 min after food. All failed. Therefore I still believe that the best way to heal the body is by NOT taking any helpers whatsoever. The body is supposed to learn to digest the foods you eat, especially if you have eaten plant based before. Even if HCI is supposed to help. I used to eat a LOT of plant based foods which brought me into this low HCI mess, now I don´t eat any and I think that´s the best way to go to naturally increase it, which after carnivore it did. I do however think that herbs and mushrooms are in a differnt category, and by now I strongly believe that these can heal rather than harm. I still need to do more research about that, especially about mushrooms which are fascinating, since they are in the same category as humans and meats.

But when summarizing these 4 months of carnivore I can say that this is the best way of eating I ever did. Out of my personal experience I would recommend not to eat any plant based foods, and I think you would heal much faster. Doing zero carb might be even better, but that would mean no dairy and no eggs, for sure not honey or bee pollen. Only meat, water and salt. But that is too hardcore for me and I think that some people might need these carbs. So if I were you surfsteve, I´d try going full carnivore, with no plant based foods whatsoever, and see how it goes. And when it comes to body odor I wouldn´t worry. Since eating carnivore I have zero smell, zero farts and by now I sweat less (you will sweat more in the beginning). One thing you might realize though, you will need to drink a lot more water, unless you eat plenty of raw meats and drink a lot of raw dairy.

 

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