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Yes, my 7 yrs old boy (past 5 yrs on RPD) has flukes and round worms and so does my 2 and half yrs old daughter (from birth follows RPD). Now i am treating them with rife frequency, castor oil pack and H2O2 foot soaking. But how I will replace raw protein to avoid flukes? Here are those special blood tests photos... (very powerful RIFE MICROSCOPE)
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Flukes are nothing to mess around with, especially if they're liver flukes.   I would advise getting medical doctors involved for testing.  Round worms are easy to get rid of, and again, you should either see worms in stools, or eggs from stool tests.  Round worms can be dangerous if you try to expel them with obnoxious herbs etc. for they can migrate to evade irritating substances and cause harm to tissues.   

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hi Van, thanks jfor ur respond. Here one of the major causes for flukes for eating raw protein. "The symptoms of fluke infection differ somewhat according to the type of fluke involved. All forms of liver and lung fluke infection, however, have the following characteristics:
most persons who get infected do not develop symptoms (asymptomatic)
the early symptoms of an acute fluke infection are not unique to these diseases alone (nonspecific symptoms)
infection does not confer immunity against re-infection by the same species or infection by other species of flukes
infection is usually associated with eating uncooked fish, plants, or animals that live in fresh water"

But my son gets horrible pain in his tummy the naval area time to time. My daughter gets her pain in knees or finger nails. if the raw animal's are giving them flukes, than what is the next step I can do?
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I have given my own children:

https://humaworm.com/

30 day program every 2-3 years.

I have also used the adult dosage. (you need to order it fresh every time)

On stand by for emergencies we always have Barefoot Herbalist MH dewormer.

http://oldfashionedspices.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=16

We also go to Mr. Romy Macapagal for Beam Ray Treatments if needed.  And we also have different zappers.

Parasites are always possible whether raw or cooked paleo or SAD.  We are at the top of the food chain.

Make sure your child poops daily when you do the parasite cleanses... warm water enema at night before bed if no poop at night.

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I did all those deworming methods for myself FIRST before I gave them to my children.
Parents go first.
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I still say you don't want to mess around with Flukes, especially in the liver.  I wouldn't play doctor if my child had them.  Why not get tests to confirm or not that your children have them?   Take a look on line what they can do to a liver.   Personally I wouldn't 'believe' in a Rife microscope, and or one person's opinion, unless they had years and years of experience as a parasitologist.

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Dear Van, above four photos from one drop of blood that we tested by an X doctor who owns an extremely powerful microscope, which is 50 thousand times more powerful than any standard American Pathology has. I took my son to Dr Kelvin Holder who is a pediatrician and a very reputated holistic doctor  of preventive medicine. He found out that my son has lyme disease after the special blood test . Then I bought rife machine and treated him for 6 months. His pain increased and symptoms did not show anything like lyme . Then this X doctor I knew him through a friend and I know how he is good . He is a real last student of Dr Rife who invented rife machine. We did not tell him about lyme disease. But the X doctor found these after he tested one drop of blood from my two children. 1st two photos r belong to my son and next two photos belong to my daughter. He mentioned (X doctor) about chemtrial poison in their blood too. Then he told us that they did not ever had lyme disease. 
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There may be no need to replace raw proteins. Avoiding raw protein will not help, I would recommend that you make sure your sources of food are of the purist quality, and are not contaminated with chemical wormers or other immune suppressing substances. I also believe that a lower carb diet higher in raw fats could be beneficial

Are the children suffering from any of the symptoms?

If there are not any serious symptoms then direct intervention may not be the best route,

I have had blood parasites and the best way I have found to treat the condition is through holistic nutritional and lifestyle changes.

Flukes are nothing to mess around with, especially if they're liver flukes.   I would advise getting medical doctors involved for testing.  Round worms are easy to get rid of, and again, you should either see worms in stools, or eggs from stool tests.  Round worms can be dangerous if you try to expel them with obnoxious herbs etc. for they can migrate to evade irritating substances and cause harm to tissues.   

Most cases of blood parasite infection are never diagnosed by standard medical test.

I also am wary of using "natural" parasite flushes.

There are often other issues involved which allow for the conditions which allow for chronic systemic infestation. Virtually everyone is exposed to parasites, yet most people never have an issue, and many people who have been infected do not show any symptoms, so when someone becomes infested to the point of illness, then there is usually other factors involved.

In my case I had a damaged spleen and liver, and an over all weakened and toxic immune system which made me more prone to infestation.

I had to nurture myself back to health with the pure water, clean fatty meats, elimination of high glycemic foods,  before my symptoms where relieved.
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I would seek medical attention to address the problem immediately like Van said.
Do you feed your kids raw fish, chicken or pork? Is the beef your getting handled properly and 100% grass fed?


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You can get flukes from contaminated water too. Check this website http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Fluke+Infections

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Yes, my 7 yrs old boy (past 5 yrs on RPD) has flukes and round worms and so does my 2 and half yrs old daughter (from birth follows RPD). Now i am treating them with rife frequency, castor oil pack and H2O2 foot soaking. But how I will replace raw protein to avoid flukes? Here are those special blood tests photos... (very powerful RIFE MICROSCOPE)

Go see a REAL doctor.


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Perhaps the children should get tested by a licensed medical doctor regarding the possible roundworm infection, but as far as the flukes, and lyme I doubt doctors will be able to help much.

If anyone knows of a "real" doctor who knows how to identify and diagnose blood parasites then please let me know, because I am skeptical that such an illusive creature can easily be found, and encouraging a member of this forum to go to just any random general practitioner with these pictures and this story, may not be wise.

Real doctors couldn't find my blood parasites after years of testing, even though I saw it for myself under the microscope, and I seriously doubt they will be able to find the ones in these children.

BTW Those pictures are not typical liver flukes which are large and easily identifiable, they are of microscopic blood flukes that are rarely diagnosed and can only be seen with high power microscopes, which are not used by mainstream medicine.

And you can forget about getting anywhere with doctors when it comes to the question of Lyme!

An other concern I would have is regarding how one can find a doctor who will not turn you into child protective services if they find out you have been feeding your children raw meat.
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Perhaps the children should get tested by a licensed medical doctor regarding the possible roundworm infection, but as far as the flukes, and lyme I doubt doctors will be able to help much.

If anyone knows of a "real" doctor who knows how to identify and diagnose blood parasites then please let me know, because I am skeptical that such an illusive creature can easily be found, and encouraging a member of this forum to go to just any random general practitioner with these pictures and this story, may not be wise.

Real doctors couldn't find my blood parasites after years of testing, even though I saw it for myself under the microscope, and I seriously doubt they will be able to find the ones in these children.

BTW Those pictures are not typical liver flukes which are large and easily identifiable, they are of microscopic blood flukes that are rarely diagnosed and can only be seen with high power microscopes, which are not used by mainstream medicine.

And you can forget about getting anywhere with doctors when it comes to the question of Lyme!

An other concern I would have is regarding how one can find a doctor who will not turn you into child protective services if they find out you have been feeding your children raw meat.

1. Stop telling this man not to go to a Doctor. The idea that he is better equipped to handle this issue than an actual medical doctor is NONSENSE. Also, Doctors may prolong your treatments because of profit, you probably didn't even have parasites - you just saw things that you thought looked suspicious. Are you a doctor? No? How did you learn all of this medicine?

2. Kids have no money and few Doctors are going to misdiagnose a child for reasons of money.

3. That's a possibility and unfortunately I am on that side. Babies have no real immune systems and in our "Lysol age" most kids don't either. I personally would not feed my children raw meat, or uncleaned veggies no matter what paleo humans did.

Paleo humans were not the end all be all of our species you know.

raw : GO TO A DOCTOR, A REAL DOCTOR - NOW.

I'm sure you have the best of intentions in mind for your children but you're not qualified for this, the very fact that you're asking questions and asking about treatments...

Do what you want to yourself - but - GET YOUR CHILDREN TO A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL.

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You are wasting your time. Too many of us have seen doctors only for us to get routinely misdiagnosed or nearly killed by modern medicine etc. We try rawpalaeodiets because doctors and other methods have failed us.
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1. Stop telling this man not to go to a Doctor. The idea that he is better equipped to handle this issue than an actual medical doctor is NONSENSE. Also, Doctors may prolong your treatments because of profit, you probably didn't even have parasites - you just saw things that you thought looked suspicious. Are you a doctor? No? How did you learn all of this medicine?


To answer your questions
I am not a doctor, though I have studied medical science intensely over the last ten years, incorporating both mainstream and alternative views of health and healing, into a personal vision which is somewhat unique, to say the least.

I believe that most general practitioners know much less about the healing arts than many of the people here on this forum, and although the men of medical science have claimed to have the ultimate authority in these matters, there is an aura of arrogance and ignorance in many of their assumptions.

FYI. There are a number of reasons for why I am convinced that I had suffered from parasite infection, and like I said before I believe that the presence of blood parasites was symptomatic of my condition and not a direct cause of my problems. I had an extremely elevated eosinophil count for years, which is the number one indicator of parasitic infection.. also had an enlarged Spleen, liver congestion, low platelets. I had tale tale signs of parasite infestation, and yet after years of going to the doctors all I could get was a diagnosis of Chronic fatigue. Even if they had diagnosed me with lyme or blood parasites the treatments, involving poisonous drugs are very questionable and rarely correct the underlying condition. Clearing out round worms, pin worms, tapeworms, and other large nematodes can be accomplished fairly easily using drugs( so long as the environmental conditions are altered to prevent reinfection,) but as for Lyme or other microscopic parasites drug based treatments are largely ineffective and often cause more harm than good. Many people in the medical establishment are aware of this, and yet little is being done to look for alternative treatments and so far my attempts to get the attention of the establishment regarding my own personal discoveries have fallen on deaf ears. So here I am out on the fringes of the renegade sciences, forced to seek out alternative solutions based on my own unique understanding with little support from those in the establishment.


After being sick for some time without any help from the local health department I eventually had a microscopic blood screening where I witnessed the parasite infestation of my blood. One time my girlfriend had hers done right before me, and she had no signs of infection. Then when I was tested, we both clearly saw that I was infested. These screenings were not done by doctors, The masters of  the medical establishment do not allow doctors to use high powered microscopes to investigate the holistic health of a person using the health of the blood as a gage. This was done at a nutritional healing clinic, shortly after I went there the Feds came in and shut them down, because only a medical doctor is legally allowed to take blood.

Not only did I see parasites, but at the time I also had yeast, blood sugar issues, and anemia. I saw the high triglyceride levels, the yeast, and the sickly looking anemic cells with my own eyes. I also saw the healthy robust cells of my girlfriends blood. Blood analysis can be used as a tool to discern the overall health and well being of a person, even if it is not recognized by medical science.

Though I must admit that the recommendations given by most of these alternative practitioners are not very effective. Herbal cleanses, enemas, supplements and raw vegetable based diets, are not the best ways of dealing with these systemic health issues.

So after trying some of their recommendations without success I went out on my own to find a solution, which eventually lead me to go Raw Paleo..
« Last Edit: June 30, 2014, 09:34:33 am by sabertooth »
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You are wasting your time. Too many of us have seen doctors only for us to get routinely misdiagnosed or nearly killed by modern medicine etc. We try rawpalaoediets because doctors and other methods have failed us.

They're children, not, lab rats.

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They're children, not, lab rats.

  Children can be just as easily killed by doctors as lab-rats:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iatrogenesis#Medical_error_and_negligence
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MDs will usually choose drugs against parasites.
Non-MDs will choose herbal parasite cleansers or zappers or rife, etc.
It's really up to the parent to decide.
She just wants our inputs.
Hopefully she chooses and gets the best outcome.
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Get away from EMF...... it will weaken the immune system - many places in USA are horrible... here too. It gets more and more crazy.
We need to not overlook this when we try to solve our health issues.

Children in particular are the one that suffers the most... the EMF (wifi, smart meters, electronics etc..) will destroy their gutflora

My one sister and family moved to the countryside, very remote, almost no cellphone coverage... from the city, surrounded with many many wifi signals from neighbors... and so much EMF it is scary. She has had diarrhea for long time and the doctors could not help. She got so thin. Now, from the first day in the new home - no diarrhea anymore. Amazing! The whole family are feeling so much better! I was there and i could literally feel the difference. I am moving too now. To a place with less EMF. For many today moving will be the only way they can heal.
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We must take into consideration all the factors involved, I seriouusly doubt that the presences of parisites is the primary cause of the childrens condition, although they may be responsible for some of the symtoms.

Parasites can be found in healthy people and as long as they are able to be kept in check by the immune system they are not problematic. The issues usually arise when there is a dysfunction of the immune system which allows for infestation. This could be caused by a number of things, and in order to best understand what is happening in this case, we would need to know more information.

There may be an issue with EMF, or some other form of environmental pollution. Whatever it is that could be contributing to lower immune function must be identified and corrected.

There are some measures that could be taken that I believe everyone could agree upon.

The children must have access to clean water, clean food, fresh air, sunlight.

The environment must be free of any possible contamination. Good hygiene is important to keep parasite loads to a minimal, and prevent reinfections. Mild parasitic infections can become infestations in children through the of the oral fecal route. Make sure the children are thoroughly clean after using the restrooms and make sure they are not exposed to contaminated water or animal excrement.
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With regards to EMF, this company creates products that greatly dampen the negative effects of EMF radiation on the body. I can personally vouch for their products and they have a page that lists various scientific studies that validate their claims. I highly recommend everyone give this a look:

http://www.qlinkproducts.com

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''MDs'' are ''legal'' murderers ...

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How did the story end?

 

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