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Offline fireball

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Are you sure that rotten Fish is safe to eat?
« on: July 02, 2019, 09:44:57 am »
Hey guys,

Is rotten fish definitely safe to eat? I'm quite afraid of eating a lot of it. Why is rancid fermented cod liver oil bad and rancid fish.. herring for example not bad? Why did people salt there fish when fermenting and not just leave it without?

Reading stories like these scares me:
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/04/15/globalpost-egypt-dangerous-delicacy/25813253/

Also seeing people say on the internet that you can die from eating rotten food.

I've attached a photo of one herring i've had in a jar for a few weeks. It completely breaks down without any stirring needed. I've also attached a few herring I've had in a jar for 9 days now. It's becoming smelly and slimy.






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Re: Are you sure that rotten Fish is safe to eat?
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2019, 10:59:23 am »
Hi,

I'm new here and not all raw yet.  Just thought I would share some things with you that strike me from reading the article.

The article is dated 2015 and it says "The most recent figures show that two people died from eating fesikh in 2010, and the same number in 2009." They had to go back 5 years to find two deaths.  And you don't know the medical history of those two people.

From 1998-2016,  21 people have died from eating hot dogs and 33 people died from eating cantaloupe. (I tried to post a link but the site wouldn't let me). However, people continue to eat hot dogs and cantaloupe without fear of death.  Hot dogs are popular on holidays and at fairs and around celebrations.  Just like this fish is popular at this festival/holiday. 

The only way not to get food poisoning is to never eat food.  But I do understand your concern and hopefully one of the more expert members can discuss.

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Re: Are you sure that rotten Fish is safe to eat?
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2019, 11:38:01 pm »
I am a fan of rotten fermented fish I made fermented tuna before keeping small diced pieces of tuna in a large glass jar outside in a shady spot during the hot summer months. I fermented it for about one month and it came out quite nicely. It looked just like the fish in your jar. The stench was horrendous and the flavor was powerful.  I aired out the jar twice a day .  The 1 time bugs did get in I just left the lid on for 3 days untill the oxygen ran out and the bugs died then I just continued airing it out as usual.
I made a video of my experience
 https://youtu.be/ktUWBFlX_94
 For making high fish I would use the best quality fish possible never frozen and prefer abbly not farmed fish. Just fresh wild fish. That fish you have their looks excellent.

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Re: Are you sure that rotten Fish is safe to eat?
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2019, 12:18:27 am »
Problems encountered by Inuits related to their use of plastic containers in recent times which caused a biological degrade of their meat and fish in contact with it.    Avoid use of plastic containers except for an outer shield and air the contents frequently.    Fish and meat can even be fermented at higher temperatures as explained above.

(Thanks for joining Raw Paleo Diet Forum particularly as your advice is needed at this time.    Welcome to the Forum and thanks again!)

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Re: Are you sure that rotten Fish is safe to eat?
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2019, 12:44:01 am »
Welcome!
If it's repulsive - refrain.

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Re: Are you sure that rotten Fish is safe to eat?
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2019, 06:20:31 pm »
Thank you all for your replies. I have posted about this before.. mainly about meat but I also mentioned fish i think. I felt a bit silly posting again but I thought it would be better to as it is rotten fish. I feel better about eating the high fish now. I will eat some today ;)

I thought i'd let everyone know that I am using glass jars and you should too. I wouldn't use plastic. If kept out of the fridge then air it at least once a day. I've got a cooler box and add 2 or 3 ice packs changing them every day. It's not ultra cool though. The fish I use is wild herring from the sea. I've eaten it raw when not rotten and it's fine.

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Re: Are you sure that rotten Fish is safe to eat?
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2019, 06:23:58 pm »
I am a fan of rotten fermented fish I made fermented tuna before keeping small diced pieces of tuna in a large glass jar outside in a shady spot during the hot summer months. I fermented it for about one month and it came out quite nicely. It looked just like the fish in your jar. The stench was horrendous and the flavor was powerful.  I aired out the jar twice a day .  The 1 time bugs did get in I just left the lid on for 3 days untill the oxygen ran out and the bugs died then I just continued airing it out as usual.
I made a video of my experience
 https://youtu.be/ktUWBFlX_94
 For making high fish I would use the best quality fish possible never frozen and prefer abbly not farmed fish. Just fresh wild fish. That fish you have their looks excellent.

Hey I saw your video a while back. Good stuff.. i like seeing people show their preparation online. I agree that the stench is horrendous. I think fish is one of the strongest. I can smell it really strong even when the jars are sealed. I agree that it's best to use fresh wild fish. I use wild herring. I also eat when it's not rotten too.

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Re: Are you sure that rotten Fish is safe to eat?
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2019, 11:02:45 pm »
I never cared for rotten anything. I suppose yogurt, natto and vinegar would be exceptions and alcohol now that I think about it. Presently I don't consume any of those things on my diet. I love the taste of vinegar but am using fresh lemon instead which is ten times better.

 

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