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How Cooking Made Us Human. Professor R Wrangham
« on: August 27, 2010, 11:29:47 pm »
What do you think of the interview on "How Cooking Made Us Human?

http://www.oneradionetwork.com/blogcategory/diet_and_nutrition/
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Re: How Cooking Made Us Human. Professor R Wrangham
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2010, 12:25:30 am »
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Re: How Cooking Made Us Human. Professor R Wrangham
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2010, 02:41:53 am »
Wrangham's ideas and a few similiar ones have already been extensively debunked elsewhere:-

http://old.rawpaleodiet.com/advent-of-cooking-article/

http://old.rawpaleodiet.com/non-wrangham-theories-of-cooking-debunked/
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Re: How Cooking Made Us Human. Professor R Wrangham
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2010, 03:30:32 am »
Wrangham's ideas and a few similiar ones have already been extensively debunked elsewhere:-

http://old.rawpaleodiet.com/advent-of-cooking-article/

http://old.rawpaleodiet.com/non-wrangham-theories-of-cooking-debunked/

"Chemical alterations caused by cooking are many, and many of them are known to be harmful (view the many cooked food articles on this site for details)"

I remember reading somewhere study about AEG and tested on both mice and humans? The result was high amounts of AEG in mice after injection but low amounts in human. Seems like humans have developed the way to handle the AEG-s from cooked food. If you happen to know the study then comments are welcomed!

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Re: How Cooking Made Us Human. Professor R Wrangham
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2010, 03:42:49 am »
Sounds highly dodgy, never once heard of such a study. I think you mean "AGEs" not "AEG", as in "Advanced Glycation End Products". Many, many studies on AGEs have actually shown that humans do indeed suffer from plentiful health-problems from accumulated AGEs, such as age-related conditions like arthritis, type 2 diabetes etc(in the case of diabetes, the levels of heat-created toxins in the human body (ie "AGEs" are extremely high). So, humans clearly cannot  be said to have adapted to heat-created toxins in cooked foods.

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Re: How Cooking Made Us Human. Professor R Wrangham
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2010, 07:45:58 am »
Just to spice up things, I posted at the cooked paleo forum cavemanforum.com

http://cavemanforum.com/research/to-what-amount-degree-of-cooking-are-humans-adapted-to/

To what amount / degree of cooking are humans adapted to?

Which type of cooking can we theorize as the oldest method?

Are we humans fully adapted to cooking?  And to which cooking?

My personal observation about why humans are not fully adapted to cooking is regarding healing.  If you want to heal people, you can't do it on cooked meat, it is raw meat that works.  Witness how the raw vegans claim good health in the absence of cooked meat... because they could never imagine that regular consumption of raw meat is a super food compared to cooked meat.

In the book death to diabetes, the author recommends lightly steamed wild fish and lightly steamed vegetables.  He recognizes nutrition lost from overcooking.
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