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Cold processed honey, is it ever heated?
« on: October 14, 2010, 03:00:06 am »
Found some organic honey from De Rit and they say "Cold Processed with all enzymes intact".

But I've read here somewhere that it might be heated anyway, so whats the verdict?
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Re: Cold processed honey, is it ever heated?
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2010, 03:03:21 am »
Most so-called raw honey is not really raw as the law usually allows some heating. Just buy raw honeycomb instead - as long as it is not in a jar, and produced locally, then it is certain to be raw.
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Re: Cold processed honey, is it ever heated?
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2010, 03:38:15 am »
Most so-called raw honey is not really raw as the law usually allows some heating. Just buy raw honeycomb instead - as long as it is not in a jar, and produced locally, then it is certain to be raw.

There's no beekeeping in Iceland, or very very little so that's not an option, but thanks
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Re: Cold processed honey, is it ever heated?
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2010, 04:47:29 am »
Try to get honey comb.

Most honey is warmed heated, then filtered.

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Re: Cold processed honey, is it ever heated?
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2010, 07:44:20 pm »
Try to get honey comb.
Most honey is warmed heated, then filtered.
The reason being is that cold honey will not pour well, so it's hard to get in a bottle or filter out of the honeycomb. My understanding from talking to a beekeeper is that as the honey sits around it starts to harden. Problem is that we want honey as it came from the hive and we want the convenience of getting it in a nice neat jar. If you talk to a beekeeper they think that when you say heated they translate that as being pasteurized so they respond "no it's not heated". They are not lying, just not educated to our point of view. Indeed when I first read Aajonus Vonderplanitz book I had to wrap my brain around what he was saying.

I had to explain to the beekeeer why I wanted honey that was not heated at all, not even to pour it. Then he understood from a purely informational point of view. Not from the point of view of the fact that I wanted the indigenous bacteria and raw properties. Maybe I will explain that the next time I talk to him.

It's kind of like when you say grass-fed to a butcher. They will say that all cattle are grass fed. What they may not know is that what I meant was no corn fed to the cow for the last 60 days as is standard practice.

So if you get honeycomb honey you know it is not heated because heating would damage the comb as it is a wax. I may try that tack next time. I do like the wax but my GF doesn't.
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Re: Cold processed honey, is it ever heated?
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2010, 08:03:50 pm »
    Is honey ever or often removed from the comb, heated, cooled then put back in the comb?

    Sometimes unheated honey is spun just to get it out of the comb.  In the spinning, the honey closest to the machine wall gets warm by having contact with the wall.

    The honey I get is definitely raw, but I think my bones are detoxing radiation right now, and it's causing me to taste a burnt flavor when I eat honey?  
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Re: Cold processed honey, is it ever heated?
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2010, 08:43:54 pm »
   Is honey ever or often removed from the comb, heated, cooled then put back in the comb?

    Sometimes unheated honey is spun just to get it out of the comb.  In the spinning, the honey closest to the machine wall gets warm by having contact with the wall.

    The honey I get is definitely raw, but I think my bones are detoxing radiation right now, and it's causing me to taste a burnt flavor when I eat honey?  
Not really sure about your first question, but I will guess that there would be no logical reason to do that as it is heated to make pouring and filtering easier.

I was not aware of the spinning but will ask my beekeeper guy about that.

This is a bit of a guess but Ayurveda says that your inner intelligence will tell you via taste, comfort, illness etc whether foods are appropriate. Processing or cooking foods screws up this inner intelligence part of the immune system.

If the honey is giving you a burnt taste I would proffer that ;

1. the apiary used smoke to get rid of the bees during harvesting or

2. whatever season the honey was produced in, affected the flavour (My GF and I do not like the local springtime honey because it is too strong) or

3. your body is starting to tell you that a change in it's nutritional requirements is in order, in other words maybe ease up on how much you are eating.
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