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changing country for quality foods
« on: January 24, 2011, 04:22:27 am »
I thought about it alot and I came to a conclusion I have to move somewhere to get my soul and my body the best foods possible.
Not long ago I had 18 birthday im still young and this world is trying to kill me. food in russia suck.

Currently I'm in israel, Finished school and came to see my family probably I will stay here for a while.
Now if I want to stay here the goverment wants me to join their army for 3 years the food here is so processed they dont even have grass here for more than 2months a year this country is fucking dehydrated its a desert ffs!

I was thinking about moving to the US to live there maybe new york or something I am not sure.
I have a friend my age at miami he is living there maybe I move there to live with them for some time,the real problem is to get U.S. citizenship so I can live there  :'(

Right now I don't even care about work I need access to high quality foods a pullup bar and a beach..

Its my dream to live in usa.


What do you think about it how can I do it? Im still young will US accept me?

Sorry for bad english   -\

How can I make this come truee  :'( :'( I dont want to start eating grassfed animals when I am 30 years old fart tired of crappy foods.


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Re: changing country for quality foods
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2011, 04:39:01 am »
hmmmm, here are a few ideas:

1. student visa (if you have desire to continue studies)
2. work visa
3. register for u.s. green card lottery
4. marriage  -\

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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2011, 04:58:59 am »
4. marriage  -\

Invite us for your wedding, Ioanna and Achillezzz !
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Re: changing country for quality foods
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2011, 08:29:07 am »
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I was thinking about moving to the US to live there maybe new york or something I am not sure.

yes, you really have no clue what you want to do. New York is more processed than whole Isreal, it is a real dump, i visited it once and have no desire to ever go back.
don't be delusional about US.  life here is hard as anywhere else.  the only thing that makes US different is the opportunity to be whatever you want to be if you work really hard for long time.  there are no trees with dollars growing on them.

Miami is the same processed crap, only with nicer weather and nice beaches.

if i were in your shoes i would figure out long term goals.  i would think of places far away from industry and agriculture where i could hunt my own food.  in my opinion wild game in remote areas is way better than any grass-fed commercial meat.  there are very few such places in the US, keep that in mind.

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Re: changing country for quality foods
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2011, 04:04:31 am »
There are still some organic farming communes where a person could enter the contry and hide out while working for a farm. Before I had children I had the opportunity to move to a farm in Massachusetts and work, but I passed it up. When I traveled to northern California I met a Lot of people who would work on the organic farms as seasonal help for harvest, you may be able to find a place if you can make it over the boarder and are willing to work for food.
I live in kentucky and we are swarmed with illegal aliens who live and work on the horse farms around here. America is a big place, and there is plenty of room, for someone who is willing to live like a sharecropper.

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Re: changing country for quality foods
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2011, 01:33:54 am »
I want to eat real meat like bison which is available in usa .

I can get sheep lambs horse maybe camel but its not all grasfed and not like bison that makes you a beast >D


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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2011, 12:21:54 pm »
Oh give me a home where the buffalo roam
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Re: changing country for quality foods
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2011, 12:44:24 pm »
I want to eat real meat like bison which is available in usa .

I can get sheep lambs horse maybe camel but its not all grasfed and not like bison that makes you a beast >D



Horses live a pretty good life, they are treated better than some humans ;)

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Re: changing country for quality foods
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2011, 02:41:28 pm »
There are still some organic farming communes where a person could enter the contry and hide out while working for a farm. Before I had children I had the opportunity to move to a farm in Massachusetts and work, but I passed it up. When I traveled to northern California I met a Lot of people who would work on the organic farms as seasonal help for harvest, you may be able to find a place if you can make it over the boarder and are willing to work for food.
I live in kentucky and we are swarmed with illegal aliens who live and work on the horse farms around here. America is a big place, and there is plenty of room, for someone who is willing to live like a sharecropper.



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Re: changing country for quality foods
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2011, 03:08:20 pm »
I always see that my birth place is a better place to find best quality of meat and other things like natural living. United States definitely a place for opportunity, but need a lot of money to live a simple life. I live in New York and my source of grassfed meat is way better than the people I know (living in Ca) that consume raw meat in other states. I pay fortune for my food and now I'm about to have my own farm. I'll be glad to have paleo friends in my farm in the future.
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Re: changing country for quality foods
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2011, 06:01:01 am »
I want to eat real meat like bison which is available in usa .

I can get sheep lambs horse maybe camel but its not all grasfed and not like bison that makes you a beast >D



Sure if you wanna spend $8 per lb in bulk if you are lucky. Likely also will have to travel, I have to drive 6 hours each way to get reasonably priced grass fed beef in southern california. Even then its still $1000 for a half cow, without including gas, wear and tear on a vehicle, time, possible night stay. Grass fed meats are expensive, go to whole foods (popular "health" food store) and you will see grass fed ground beef for $8, tough roasts for $9-10/lb, and steaks for high teens and 20's.

Lamb is even more than beef.

But whats this talk about bison making you a beast...?

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Re: changing country for quality foods
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2011, 06:23:44 am »
Horses live a pretty good life, they are treated better than some humans ;)

Yes but I am talking about meat that I can eat daily.
You know horse meat is not something you can buy from the supermarket or a butcher nor from farmers.

The only way to get horse here is to find an arab riding horse and make him an offer.
If I start buying horses from arabs everyweek they start asking questions like where are the horses I bought last time and why I buy horses everyweek what I tell them that I eat it? they will fucking driveby me they love their horses I dont wana know what they do If they figure our I eat them ....

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Re: changing country for quality foods
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2011, 06:28:37 am »


But whats this talk about bison making you a beast...?

cows are degenerated animals because we humans fed them alot of crap milked them and stuff like that.

Bison is untouched by human hands all time through history been fed on grass I dont know I saw a video where daniel vitallis explains that bison is strong meat..

Just look at a bison its loaded with androgenic hormones.

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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2011, 06:43:20 am »
Ok, was just wondering. When I hear someone say beast I think of big and strong, and I was just going to say I know from experience bison won't make you any bigger or stronger than beef haha. Was just hoping you were not chasing a pipe dream. :)

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Re: changing country for quality foods
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2011, 07:20:23 am »
Well at 18 years old... dream on!
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Re: changing country for quality foods
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2011, 08:25:45 am »
Yes but I am talking about meat that I can eat daily.
You know horse meat is not something you can buy from the supermarket or a butcher nor from farmers.

The only way to get horse here is to find an arab riding horse and make him an offer.
If I start buying horses from arabs everyweek they start asking questions like where are the horses I bought last time and why I buy horses everyweek what I tell them that I eat it? they will fucking driveby me they love their horses I dont wana know what they do If they figure our I eat them ....
heh heh, sounds like an exotic place to me.

I think one horse should tide you over for more than a week, hoop dreams aside.

NYC is probably better than any other major city for food quality/alternative health communities etc...There isn't a decent butcher shop to my knowledge with grass-fed meats unfortunately, but you can get great stuff at the farmers markets. Unless you like 'clubbing' I don't suggest Miami. That town gets old fast, and wouldn't be much as far as pastured animals than any other place.

Your best bet is higher education. Just bulk up on whatever raw fare is available there and get yourself a basketball scholarship if you are so fantastic. Likely better quality meats won't give as much of a short term edge. as B. points out even for us here in the states..there might be advantages of cleaner meats (or even better..wild meats), but it probably isn't going to be the biggest factor in athletic pursuits, and more of a long term refinement or health goal.

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Re: changing country for quality foods
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2011, 09:34:08 am »
The USDA has just approved GE alfafa.  this is going to contaminate grass fed animal farms that feed cows alfalfa and likely end up causing organic ones to shut down.  I'd reconsider moving here, it's only going to get worse.
  
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« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2011, 10:20:43 am »
The USDA has just approved GE alfafa.
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« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2011, 01:02:12 pm »
The USDA has just approved GE alfafa.  this is going to contaminate grass fed animal farms that feed cows alfalfa and likely end up causing organic ones to shut down.  I'd reconsider moving here, it's only going to get worse.
  
http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/pressreleases/ge-alfalfa/
http://www.rodale.com/ge-alfalfa-0

wow, if your not on top of things for just a few weeks stuff like this happens and you don't even hear about it. Great.

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« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2011, 07:14:24 pm »
Ok, was just wondering. When I hear someone say beast I think of big and strong, and I was just going to say I know from experience bison won't make you any bigger or stronger than beef haha. Was just hoping you were not chasing a pipe dream. :)

Look I saw a video with daniel vitalis where he compares bison with beef and explains the difference he also eats raw bison in that vid and says thats pretty good meat because its all aggresive and grassfed.

My major problem here is that I have no grassfed beef here totaly !!!
Its middle east you know the desert, grass here grows only 2 months in a year its depends on the rain and as you know in the desert you dont have much.

The top quality meat here is Free range organic with only 2 months grass eating and rest of the time it eats grains.
Is this good enough to support my body when I start workout serious?  Right now I don't eat alot because Im not in a team and not forced to workout hard. as soon as I start working out hard  i'll need to eat especially FATSS and some fruits for carbs.
I read that grainfed fat is high in omega 6 so I am afraid of eating the meat here in such big quanities.
I want good meat totally grassfed so I wont feel bad about eating it and just eat it happy alottt 2-3kg atleast a day lol I love food.
Im just scared of eating grainfed in big ammounts.

I had the same story with eggs firt I found out I can eat them raw I gave it a try but their tasted and nutrients level sucked because they were regular eggs from supermarket. Then I found out about farms where I can get free range pasturised eggs the yolks were so creammy and tasty they didn't smell like shit.

Recently I started eating eggs yolks in very big quanity almost 1k calories only from the yolks!!! I eat up to 20 a day.
And I am happy with that they make me full and digest so fast AND easy I don't feel hunger for few hours after that.

The story with meat is different I eat raw meat only once a week and only the lean parts All the other times I eat cooked meat.

If I only find grassfed tasty meat/fat that I can actually enjoy like from the pasturized creammmy egg yolks  yumy I will be the happiest dude in the world.
 

What should I do???  :'( :'( :'(
I need atleast a plan so I can get grassfed in future I don't want to eat grainfed all my life.
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« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2011, 02:19:53 am »
Why do you quote your own post without any comment ?

I didn't notice that lol
Sorry  :)

Anyway what do you think I should do?
1 think for sure I have to plan something for future in different country with grassfed meat available right?

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« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2011, 02:34:11 am »
I didn't notice that lol
Sorry  :)

I delete both your empty post and mine about it.

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Anyway what do you think I should do?
1 think for sure I have to plan something for future in different country with grassfed meat available right?

Australia and New Zealand are good places, but they'll give you a tourist visa only. I've never been in Philippines, but it seems to be rather ideal : English speaking, tropical and grass fed beef available. Again, obtaining a resident visa will certainly be a problem. You can travel till you fall in love with a girl, marry and then be allowed to stay somewhere.   ;)
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Re: changing country for quality foods
« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2011, 07:36:52 am »
imho, you have great desire to travel and see more of the world, so why not do that??  finding a country where grass-fed meat is more conveniently available is probably just one piece.  so why do you have to make a decision for the rest of your life.. just go somewhere for the experience and culture... maybe you'll like your new 'home', maybe you'll want to go back, or maybe you'll want to move on.  you're 18, go have some fun!

 

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