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What do yo do with fish with visible parasites?
« on: February 18, 2011, 04:17:48 am »
So if you are chopping or chomping into a nice piece of raw fish, and you see some wiggly critters aka parasites, what do you do? Stop eating and discard it? Or continue eating the fish along with the parasites?

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Re: What do yo do with fish with visible parasites?
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2011, 04:21:59 am »
two for the price of one, nice  ;D

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Re: What do yo do with fish with visible parasites?
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2011, 04:31:09 am »
I would probably soak the fish in vinegar or brine to kill the parasites before eating.  Otherwise I'd compost the fish. 

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Re: What do yo do with fish with visible parasites?
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2011, 05:10:30 am »
I'm guessing this is a hypothetical situation?

But I'd toss it for sure.
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Re: What do yo do with fish with visible parasites?
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2011, 05:25:45 am »
Usually most parasites are hidden so the ones you'd see would make it lucky for you. Msot fish do have parasites though, they are technically bottomfeeders and come into contact with poop, flies, larva, eggs, etc with the water they take in, and eat other animals along the food chain picking up parasites too. So...? Do we still discard even though most fish may have hidden wrigglies or what?

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Re: What do yo do with fish with visible parasites?
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2011, 05:32:11 am »
I wanted to ask this questions for long time already
If you got parasites through raw food flesh what can you do? and what harm the parasites can do?

lets say RIGHT NOW I have parasites and ecoli and all the bad guys inside from really shit quality flesh  what Should I do??

Die and vanish?

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Re: What do yo do with fish with visible parasites?
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2011, 05:48:30 am »
Tapeworms are actually almost always harmless, according to reports. But, anyway, getting rid of parasites just requires one to get a prescription from a doctor so you can get an anti-parasite drug. More to the point, RVAFers very, very rarely encounter parasites, if ever.
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Re: What do yo do with fish with visible parasites?
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2011, 06:02:00 am »
All I wanna know is the definite on what to do with the fish?

If I see parasites on the flesh do I toss or continue eating cause usually fish do have parasites harmless or not so I may just be wasting cash. Or do I freeze it?

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Re: What do yo do with fish with visible parasites?
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2011, 06:30:35 am »
DONT EAT IT
Today just fast or eat some eggs tommorrow get beef its the safest in raw paleo I think .

Why Fish has the most parasites in it? why beef not? why why where they come wtff i hate parasites

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Re: What do yo do with fish with visible parasites?
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2011, 06:55:47 am »
It's because in the water fish come into contact with fecal matter, parasites, eggs, cysts, larva, and eat other animals with parasites in them or get them along the food chain. So yeah I guess that's why. I guess i'd discard it. But i'm still out on the book, i'd like to see where this discussion would go from people's experiences.

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Re: What do yo do with fish with visible parasites?
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2011, 09:16:49 am »
I've never gotten fish like that, but I might just freeze it for a long time. Freezing kills animal parasites, not bacteria though. I think a freezing of about 2 weeks should kill just about anything.

Or you could cook it, which I don't consider as big of a deal as some others. Or the acid kill might work too, citrus juice or vinegar soaking.

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Re: What do yo do with fish with visible parasites?
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2011, 09:33:52 am »
So if you are chopping or chomping into a nice piece of raw fish, and you see some wiggly critters aka parasites, what do you do? Stop eating and discard it? Or continue eating the fish along with the parasites?

If it grosses me out and my gut instincts say YUCK, I throw it out.

But this has never happened to me with fish.

I've done this with fruits.
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Re: What do yo do with fish with visible parasites?
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2011, 12:02:44 pm »
Freezing kills animal parasites, not bacteria though. I think a freezing of about 2 weeks should kill just about anything.
Trichinella in wild boar meat are very resistant to freezing.
Do you blame vultures for the carcass they eat?
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Re: What do yo do with fish with visible parasites?
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2011, 12:15:04 pm »
Have you met my friend, GARLIC?   8)

These concerns really do not frighten me.
I would be shocked if we were not eating parasites on a daily basis from cooked or raw healthy animals.
Once I did an experiment with cooked beef kidney,
I put it in a jar where no flies could get to it and worms grew within.
Cooking probably does not kill everything, as many would assume.

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Re: What do yo do with fish with visible parasites?
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2011, 12:51:36 pm »
Have you met my friend, GARLIC?   8)

These concerns really do not frighten me.
I would be shocked if we were not eating parasites on a daily basis from cooked or raw healthy animals.
Once I did an experiment with cooked beef kidney,
I put it in a jar where no flies could get to it and worms grew within.
Cooking probably does not kill everything, as many would assume.
How thoroughly did you cook it? Also yuli (i believe it was her) once mentioned purposely eating a piece of fish with a huge parasite problem. She had a stomach ache for an hour and then the next day saw the worms get excreted.
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Re: What do yo do with fish with visible parasites?
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2011, 02:15:55 pm »
There are various types of herbs that are eaten by wild animals. They intuitively know how to combat the hostile parasites.
Why should do the same.
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Re: What do yo do with fish with visible parasites?
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2011, 02:35:59 pm »
How thoroughly did you cook it? Also yuli (i believe it was her) once mentioned purposely eating a piece of fish with a huge parasite problem. She had a stomach ache for an hour and then the next day saw the worms get excreted.

Yes Yuli said that a while ago.
I was comparing to raw so I cooked thoroughly, almost completely dry. It went from package to fryer to jar.
The cooked meat developed some slime and a bunch of worms. Even if they were maggots they would have had to survive the high heat on a frying pan. Revealing that cooking does not kill all life forms. It even allowed these to thrive.

There are various types of herbs that are eaten by wild animals. They intuitively know how to combat the hostile parasites.
Why should do the same.

Exactly. Sometimes I crave garlic, ginger, cilantro... Sometimes I am repulsed by it.

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Re: What do yo do with fish with visible parasites?
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2011, 10:36:07 am »
These fish parasites are specific to fish. Most fish have them. They require an aquatic environment and fish flesh to survive.

You are not a fish and you do not live in the water. We are mammals. We have our own parasites.

Be cautious eating raw mammal flesh especially species that are scavengers like hogs. Don't eat mammal feces or raw intestines. Or high meat.

You can safely eat the fish. Above all do NOT throw it out. Package it carefully and send it overnight express to me.

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Re: What do yo do with fish with visible parasites?
« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2011, 12:10:46 pm »
You are not a fish and you do not live in the water. We are mammals. We have our own parasites.
Bears are mammels and they eat quite a lot of fish and they are fine.
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Be cautious eating raw mammal flesh especially species that are scavengers like hogs. Don't eat mammal feces or raw intestines. Or high meat.
High meat hasn't got anything to do with the parasites. Aging meat doesn't generate any of them.
Do you blame vultures for the carcass they eat?
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Re: What do yo do with fish with visible parasites?
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2011, 12:20:08 pm »
Be cautious eating raw mammal flesh especially species that are scavengers like hogs. Don't eat mammal feces or raw intestines. Or high meat.

Rubbish...
I love high meat every once and a while.
An abundant source of flora should keep parasites in check.

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Re: What do yo do with fish with visible parasites?
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2011, 10:39:03 am »
My opinion on what you should do is based on my experience with raw fish.

Currently I eat previously frozen salmon that has been thawed in the store. I also eat fresh shellfish like clams and sometimes oysters. In the summers when salmon is sold fresh, I freeze it for 7 days at -5 degrees Celcius. Similarly, if I buy other fresh fish like cod, I also freeze it for approx. 7 days at -5 degrees Celcius.

Last summer when I was cutting into fresh salmon I found a few tiny white 1 cm wriggling worms. After this I decided it's best to freeze the fish and kill the parasites. I've read anecdotes in biology textbooks that some parasites have intermediate hosts in fish but also parasitize humans. For example, the flukes.

The 7 days at -5 degrees celcius procedure is what I read online to be the standard for sushi preparation for commercial sale. Ideally I'd eat fresh but I figure freezing fish and the loss of nutrients that results is better than eating live worms. Interestingly, I don't freeze the grassfed beef that I eat.

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Re: What do yo do with fish with visible parasites?
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2011, 10:59:27 am »
I eat oysters with worms/parasites in them, who cares?
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Re: What do yo do with fish with visible parasites?
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2011, 12:02:34 pm »
I eat oysters with worms/parasites in them, who cares?
I sure don't.
There is a species of crab-like parasite within some oysters that I got last fall.
I ate them separately.  ;D

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Re: What do yo do with fish with visible parasites?
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2011, 02:08:11 pm »
I sure don't.
There is a species of crab-like parasite within some oysters that I got last fall.
I ate them separately.  ;D

Sorry a little shell shocked...but WHAT THE SWEET GRASS FED BEEF IS THAT?!! omg is that poo? Or oyster flesh? The crabs look cute I guess...but terrifying.

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Re: What do yo do with fish with visible parasites?
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2011, 05:51:24 pm »
actup90 did you really eat those? !

 

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