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'Thrive' the movie
« on: April 15, 2012, 12:37:17 pm »
I highly recommend this movie, and it's free.

http://www.thrivemovement.com/home
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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2012, 12:52:34 pm »
Thanks al, looks fantastic, I've heard about it but haven't gotten around to watching it. Will be breakfast fare tomorrow morning, cheers!

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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2012, 12:53:48 pm »
2 hours 20 min.
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2012, 05:16:41 am »
Why do you recommend it? I saw the movie and thought it was quite silly.

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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2012, 06:58:36 am »
Why do you recommend it? I saw the movie and thought it was quite silly.
OK I'll bite, what was silly about it?
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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2012, 07:36:00 am »
I found it silly that:
  • Foster Gamble was so focused throughout on the taurus shape
  • in what seems like an attempt at a serious documentary he brings up the subject of ancient alien contact and flying saucers to bolster his case
  • the film seems to build conspiracy theory on top of conspiracy theory to, in the end, build a house of cards so flimsy that nothing shy of a miracle keeps it standing
  • he blindly accepts the many free-energy devices he discusses in the film (and the conspiracy theories that explain why none of them have ever been commercialized) without having ever seen any of them actually work

There are probably other aspects of the film I find silly, but these come to mind off the cuff. I saw the film perhaps a month ago so it's not fresh in my mind anymore.

Charles Eisenstein, an author I respect for his recent books Ascent of Humanity and Sacred Economics, wrote a review of the film that some might find interesting.

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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2012, 09:19:05 am »
Eric,
I think you might reread that review by Charles Eisenstein. He does not say that it is full of conspiracy theories. What I get from what he said is that it is a change in consciousness by everyone involved from the elite to the ditchdigger that is required to bring the world to the next level of growth. He says that the elite are  brighter than those they control. People who get into positions of control are bright people generally or they wouldn't have gotten there, but their intentions are misguided when they decide that they have the divine right of Kings and know what is best for everyone else.

You seem to have added the part about conspiracy theories.

Regarding the cancer etc cures, I know of people in various parts of the world who quite actively build, research, discuss and most importantly cure or have been cured an enormous amount of diseases by these devices.

On the other hand you have chemotherapy for instance that aside from it's hideous side effects, has a 5 year success rate of 2.1% .

This is not a conspiracy theory. It matters not that you are naive. However prior to stating things you might want to actually research them.

Regarding the free electricity Tesla http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla was a real person who really did develop the alternating current electrical supply system amongst an impressive list of other things. He was on the brink of developing a system for producing electricity that would require no input. If you choose to disbelieve, you can join the church (Christianity) in the list of the misguided.

There is no money to be made with free electricity.

Regarding the UFOs, I have professional pilot friends who have seen them while airborne. ATC personnel have tracked them on radar. A couple of friends (one the police chief and one a fireman) watched one hover (in the wee hours of the night) under the power lines where they go across the Churchill River at Churchill Falls power station in NL Canada. The power lines carry 735,000 volts AC. It is the largest underground powerhouse in the world. It is assumed that they were gathering some sort of electrical charge from being near the lines.

Also during the film Eugene Cernan, one of the US astronauts talks about witnessing them as well as a raft of other people. He is not likely to be a conspiracy theorist.

You really ought to pay attention. The devil is in the details.

The facts in the film were verified as they said in the credits.

Monsanto has been criticized for their activities in India, US, central America etc for their bullying tactics.

The list goes on of facts in the film.

Ron Paul, the man who did quite well in his bid to run for Republican Presidency in the US basically repeats a lot of what is said in the film about Von Missus, ending the Fed, the misguided miscreants in the FDA and a list of the other things which are clearly spelled out in his (R. Paul) books and on the websites of the people he supports such as Llewellan Rockwell.

To believe the Obamas and Bushes etc is to place a sheet of cloth over ones eyes and dart about in traffic.
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Re: 'Thrive' the movie
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2012, 11:04:44 pm »
I haven't seen the movie yet.
But the way you described it, for you and me, this is all ho hum yes we know.

But the exciting part is how to wake up everyone else.

I have no doubt raw paleo dieters are an easy bunch to wake up.  Actually, they all are awake.  Raw paleo diet does that to you.  So if a raw paleo dieter has not been tapped to look in this direction, it will be easy for him / her to appreciate such a film.

 
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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2012, 01:16:14 am »
Hopefully it will be part of the waking up process GS.

Nice thing about the movie as that they don't just tell you the bad news, they also tell the good side and what can be done.

My impression is that RPD people are early responders, naturally seekers who are looking for a better way and are not afraid to try.
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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2012, 09:29:41 am »
...I think you might reread that review by Charles Eisenstein...

I did not mean to imply that the list I offered was from Eisenstein's review. My list is from me, I linked to Eisenstein's article so that folks could get another opinion.

I'm perfectly aware of Tesla and his research. I work in the energy sector. The conspiracy theories about free energy devices being squashed by governments and fossil energy companies make no sense. I can't hold a light bulb in my hand and have it light up due to 'free energy' from some omnipresent field that I can't measure. Energy from these fields still need to be concentrated for it to be useful. Concentrating energy requires a device, which would need to be designed, manufactured and probably patented so the inventor could earn a return on their investment. To access the 'free energy', one would have to buy one of the devices, leaving 'free energy' about as free as sunlight, which itself is free but ends up costing far more than other sources of energy because solar photovoltaic panels are quite expensive and the 'free' solar energy needs to be converted to electricity to be useful.

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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2012, 10:53:04 am »
Eric,

I have no doubt that these ideas stretch the imagination, so did cars, airplanes, trains.

Instead of railing against it, join in the search to prove it is true. The past is known, mapped and mined, be part of the future.

There are people about who for their own (presumed) good are willing to quash the plebs and minions. Always has been, always will be. It's fear of starvation/poverty/disgrace that drives people to act irrationally greedy.

The church quietly forced people to accept their theory of health for a very long time. (that disease emanated from 'spontaneous generation') The early scientists had to fight tooth and nail against this stuff and funnily enough as ridiculous as it sounds, there may be a bit of truth to SG. But that's another topic.

Bear in mind that the poo-pooers said that we would evaporate at 60 mph. I fly an aircraft @ Mach .79 . A slowpoke...

Faster than a speeding bullet >>> SR-71 Blackbird

There are groups of people in the world that also act in their own short term interests, such as guilds in Europe that stalled the progress of machinery, current allopathic doctors who have essentially the most powerful union on earth today, via such organizations as the AMA, FDA. They are the modern day church. Some are willing to die to prove their points. Just as has happened since the dawn of humanity.

These people are 'lookin out for # 1' as Randy Bachman said so sagely so long ago... I love it
Randy Bachman - Lookin' Out for #1 Live at the Commodore Ballroom

So it's not just politicians at the top, Pope's, Rockefella's, it's the toads sitting around on their lilly pads protecting the past that keeps the world in 'slo-mo'

Forget the 'no way, it is not possible' crap.

Conspiracy theories can become tomorrow's self-evident truths. Just takes a Royal Rife.

Yesterdays miracles took a foresighted miracle worker to make them today's ho-hum reality.
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2012, 11:50:50 am »
You're of course welcome to believe whatever you'd like. I won't be investing any of my money in 'free energy' research.

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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2012, 11:52:52 am »
You're of course welcome to believe whatever you'd like. I won't be investing any of my money in 'free energy' research.

There are Youtubes I've watched with backyard inventors running these things.
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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2012, 01:09:16 pm »
Eric,

If you don't think there is a conspiracy with the drug companies, try to bring herbal mixtures into Canada.

Now why would anyone try to restrict a few herbal mixtures from coming into Canada??? Yet I have had shipments delayed of the same product, same company, same shipper, for in excess of a month and if I try to order multiple jars, well forget it, they make up a cockamamy story about importing drugs for sale.

The other story that customs makes up, is that Viagra which has been reverse engineered is coming into Canada.... Dah, my mixture comes in a  sealed jar, is a paste, bears no resemblance to a tablet, does not rattle in the jar as a tablet does, yet the seal is opened,  delayed almost exactly one month.

I have complained to my MP and he even has to wait many months for a reply from Customs.

The drug companies have had a run at making herbal mixtures completely illegal on a number of occasions. They do it every so many years, hoping to catch people snoozing. They shoot for the stars with their laws and hope to land on the moon.

All this despite there being zero proof of any harm being done to the public. In great contrast to the drug company record of the supplier of the largest killer of humans on record aside from war. Iatrogenic disorders study in the US hospital system 1999 + -
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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2012, 07:57:29 pm »
The 'conspiracy theory upon conspiracy theory' I was referring to dealt with free energy, aliens and financial stuff, not so much suppression of naturopathic therapies.

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« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2012, 08:16:50 pm »
The 'conspiracy theory upon conspiracy theory' I was referring to dealt with free energy, aliens and financial stuff, not so much suppression of naturopathic therapies.
  I googled re Eugene Cernan and found the remark re UFOs only on UFO-conspiracy websites. No mention on his official website etc. If raw-al can provide some evidence, fine, otherwise I'll have to assume it's a load of b*ll. Hmm, I rather like the notion of Tesla's futuristic inventions working out.
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« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2012, 08:48:21 pm »
I did not mean to imply that the list I offered was from Eisenstein's review. My list is from me, I linked to Eisenstein's article so that folks could get another opinion.

I'm perfectly aware of Tesla and his research. I work in the energy sector. The conspiracy theories about free energy devices being squashed by governments and fossil energy companies make no sense. I can't hold a light bulb in my hand and have it light up due to 'free energy' from some omnipresent field that I can't measure. Energy from these fields still need to be concentrated for it to be useful. Concentrating energy requires a device, which would need to be designed, manufactured and probably patented so the inventor could earn a return on their investment. To access the 'free energy', one would have to buy one of the devices, leaving 'free energy' about as free as sunlight, which itself is free but ends up costing far more than other sources of energy because solar photovoltaic panels are quite expensive and the 'free' solar energy needs to be converted to electricity to be useful.

There does not need to be any conspiracy for an energy source or an invention to find it hard to go mainstream.

I've seen these inventions by brilliant inventors here in the Philippines.  But it is one thing to invent, and another thing to market.... most inventors are not marketers.

Here's an invention we made a website for: http://biocleaner.com

It costs 90% less than competing technologies... so maybe less commissions to go around... so maybe less takers?  Will have to see how they market.

There's a sort of free energy invention from burning trash CLEANLY starting it up with just LPG and input some water.  Filipino made.  They have a prototype in Palawan.  They are an infant technology and in need of financing and marketing. It works... but let's see how they market.

It's like real healing.  Hell, I cure the incurables and so do my friends who are professional healers, but you don't see us being blared out on the mass media... there should be headlines saying "Non-MDs have found REAL cures for Cancers! Real cases! Real science!"  My website http://curemanual.com should be heralded on mainstream media... but its not.

Just like raw paleo diet... is so fringe from everyone else's point of view, but we know our RPD science is just one of the BEST!
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« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2012, 11:24:22 pm »
  I googled re Eugene Cernan and found the remark re UFOs only on UFO-conspiracy websites. No mention on his official website etc. If raw-al can provide some evidence, fine, otherwise I'll have to assume it's a load of b*ll. Hmm, I rather like the notion of Tesla's futuristic inventions working out.
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Instead of looking at some of the dubious sites, watch the movie. It is free. You can watch him, 'Eugene Cernan' say the words as well as others from high in the US military tell their stories.

My pilot friends tell these stories at great peril, as they are concerned about looking like kooks and generally only mention them if ATC has them on radar also. Radar don't lie. And also, what percentage is there in telling stories of UFOs whilst you are carrying around a bunch of trusting souls. All you need is another controversy to put a dent in business.

Also there is no percentage in me telling this story for you, as I have no reason to believe in these tales. I am not gaining money or notoriety. Additionally UFOs don't impact me and I could care less. The media loves to poke fun of things and that's cool. That's how they pay for the kid's dental work and the rent. They amuse people. They don't inform. They are asses for the most part.

It's like Near Death Experiences "NDE" books. Most are written by Doctors who are simply relating stories patients tell them. After you hear small children tell these stories with a pretty much consistent content with what people in different cultures and different age groups, both genders relate, the consistencies are just too overwhelming. I know people who have had these experiences and they are intelligent honest people. Estimates are that 20% of the population have had one. 

Inventors like Edison, (who from all accounts was a thief) aren't necessarily brilliant or far sighted, they are just plain and simply excellent marketers, people with a vision. People who were sufficiently bright that they 'saw gold in them thar hills' and were able to get investors and move governments to pass laws like the rural electrification project etc..

Rockefeller was just a terrible skinflint who would squeeze a penny to get a dime. He played games with people and systems till he got what he wanted. He saw money as a game and could manipulate others to get what he wanted. He's not the only nor the first nor the last. Governments will never stop them as they are quite often in bed with the gov't or the gov't is filled with sloths who don't care as long as the paycheque comes in.

Guys like Rife had/have zero marketing and business skills, but their long suite is dogged brilliance. Read "The Cancer Cure That Worked" by Barry Lynes.

Rife was possibly his own worst enemy in some ways. He was so cocksure that he was doing a great job and naive enough to believe that he could get the mountain to move to him that he didn't see what lay ahead.

Dr Hamer was ostracized, even jailed, for forwarding medical science. He probably pissed off quite a few people with his attitude, combined with the fact that he proposed putting them out of business.

Wilhelm Reich was even worse. Read his story if you want to see the meaning of eccentric. He never even showed up for his trials.

These guys are eccentric. They don't give a rat's ass about marketing properly.

Some eccentrics like Mark Zuckerberg knew how to screw their way to the top by clever marketing and manipulation and now he has signed on to restrict the net.  Big bro
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/322899
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« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2012, 11:49:43 pm »
If you were an investor, think about it. You want to retire at 50. F#*k saving the planet. You'd invest in Coca Cola, big pharma, MacDonalds, you name it. You're just a regular guy.

The guy running Micky Dees wants you to give him your money so he can make a mound for himself, even if it costs him a heart attack and his life, like one of the previous guys who really thought all this stuff about Micky Dees being unhealthy was just BS. Also Prez. Clinton was a MD fan BTW.

Their eye is on the money. Nothing stands in their way, it falls.
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« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2012, 01:31:36 pm »
Download Thrive movie via Torrent here:

http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/6834486

Saw it.  It's inspiring that they made this movie.   Hopefully we can see this kind of progress in our lifetime. 

The internet and cell phone communications are an amazing infrastructure that seems to start things off.

Take a look at this forum, amazing huh?

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« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2012, 11:39:25 pm »
Download Thrive movie via Torrent here:

http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/6834486

Saw it.  It's inspiring that they made this movie.   Hopefully we can see this kind of progress in our lifetime. 

The internet and cell phone communications are an amazing infrastructure that seems to start things off.

Take a look at this forum, amazing huh?

Our collective experiences and opinions, heal ourselves, heal others, heal the world.


Well said!
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« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2012, 05:00:50 am »
Anyone have any info on the veracity of this Thrive related article ?

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2045/715/Liens_Filed_Against_Federal_Reserve_Banks.html

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« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2012, 11:13:49 am »
I did not mean to imply that the list I offered was from Eisenstein's review. My list is from me, I linked to Eisenstein's article so that folks could get another opinion.

I'm perfectly aware of Tesla and his research. I work in the energy sector. The conspiracy theories about free energy devices being squashed by governments and fossil energy companies make no sense. I can't hold a light bulb in my hand and have it light up due to 'free energy' from some omnipresent field that I can't measure. Energy from these fields still need to be concentrated for it to be useful. Concentrating energy requires a device, which would need to be designed, manufactured and probably patented so the inventor could earn a return on their investment. To access the 'free energy', one would have to buy one of the devices, leaving 'free energy' about as free as sunlight, which itself is free but ends up costing far more than other sources of energy because solar photovoltaic panels are quite expensive and the 'free' solar energy needs to be converted to electricity to be useful.

Eric,
I understand your being baffled. It makes no sense to me also., yet there are Youtubes of people doing these things and some people have donated their lives to these projects as when they go public they are haunted by people who have a lot to lose.

Royal Rife was one of those people who were haunted and his story is clearly told in Barry Lynes Book "The Cancer Cure That Worked."

Here is a vid on Wilhelm Reich a noted Psychiatrist of the early 20th century;

Wilhelm Reich and the Orgone Energy - YouTube

http://www.orgoniseafrica.com/

There really are people in the world who are willing to even kill to stop competition. Not a lot of them but it just takes one clever one.

I will post the Free Energy devices when I find them. Obviously a device is necessary, the free part is that once they are set up they run until bearings wear out with no input.

I will also post links to a number of expose TV news shows in Australia/New Zealand which feature a very talented Doctor with three or four specializations in Allopathy, who has succeeded in curing about 25% of his patients, who were for the most part abandoned or deemed incurable by the regular (deadbeat) allopathic cancer community.

The Allopathic community clearly closed ranks on this guy as they saw the potential for them being put out of their very lucrative business. Gotta make them Volvo payments.

Indeed they revoked his license just.... 'because they could', but he got it back. He did nothing other than prove them wrong.

The Allopathic Doctors union strikes again. They managed to take his studies, case histories etc and bluff and BS for a year, when they were told by the government to study them, and then just said they didn't accept them........ Hmmmmm how do you spell 'I want to see an independent audit from a credible auditor and not someone with an axe to grind and a stake in the results'. It was sort of like asking a fox to guard the henhouse....

I don't go to Doctors period. Don't trust them or their drugs or slice 'n dice.

One day someone will break the lip-lock these clever shysters have on both the public and the public purse and when it happens the world will never be the same.

The only thing I can think is that our creator is letting them run amok so as to continue to dole out karma to the people who get serious illnesses from poor nutrition and or lack of exercise (or from spending al day whining on internet chat rooms about the state of the world... LOL)

Nowadays Allopathy is like a wee finger in the dike.

If Rife machines etc were accepted, disease would be substantially eradicated and immunization would be generally unnecessary. I can only imagine how they would be perfected if all the money spent (pissed away and donated to drug company research) on chemotherapy research were directed at them. Right now it is just eccentric, highly motivated backyard inventors feverishly working away at them all over the world in little pockets.
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« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2012, 12:13:59 am »
If you read this thread and then watch the videos you will see what the IUAD&PP "International union of Allopathic doctors and pharmaceutical producers" is capable of quashing if allowed to run around unchecked.

http://www.rifeforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=877
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« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2012, 01:06:57 am »
The links are on thread # 9 and start off their title with holt (it is Dr Holt)

Check out the head cancer doctor Clive Dever???? (sp) (8:30 of the first vid) who is actually willing to donate his life to his opinion. He would rather die than take the treatment which everyone says is side-effect free.

That is my definition of a stubborn jackass. It would be interesting to interview his wife/children/mother/father to see what they think of his ridiculous attitude. We all know people who will do anything to win or once they have lost an argument they sulk. This is what Clive demonstrated.

This reminds of the story of the woman who made it to the news because she was faced with a situation where her child was under a car in great pain and she somehow found the strength to lift the car up so the child could get free. This woman avoided the press and refused to give interviews. When one particularly stubborn and resourceful author managed to corner her for an interview he asked her why she would not like to talk to the press about it.

She answered (essentially, this is not a quote because I am repeating this story from memory) that she quickly realized that if she admitted she was capable of lifting the car despite being a frail woman, what else in her life could she have done that she gave a wimpy excuse for not doing.

Apparently not long after this happened, she went to school and I believe she became a geologist, something she always wanted to do, but talked herself out of it.

Here are some of these stories.
http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/arts/circus-arts/adrenaline-strength.htm
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