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Re: Aajonus' Conspiracy Theories
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2018, 01:05:20 pm »
whatever, I'm done with this one.

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Re: Aajonus' Conspiracy Theories
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2018, 01:15:46 pm »
Max Stirner  taught mankind that we are all slaves and always have been(and particularly since the Neolithic era). We are all variously enslaved by various entities, such as the Government, God, one's own family, one's friends, the companies who have successfully convinced us to buy their products via advertising, international organisations such as the UN and the EU  etc. etc. This is hardly a  secret conspiracy, just the facts. But, like Van said re that Monsanto quote, to assume that any  of the people in charge of/dominating anyone else to be somehow super-intelligent and following some intelligent plan is laughable.Mankind simply isn't that bright and the Fermi Paradox proves the point. Anyway, I think we ought to steer clear of Aajonus' more wacky "theories" and drop this subject. They were obviously designed to appeal to the rich residents of Malibu, California, and we all know the saying that rich people have more money than sense.....
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« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2018, 06:54:58 pm »
Max Stirner  taught mankind that we are all slaves and always have been(and particularly since the Neolithic era). We are all variously enslaved by various entities, such as the Government, God, one's own family, one's friends, the companies who have successfully convinced us to buy their products via advertising, international organisations such as the UN and the EU  etc. etc. This is hardly a  secret conspiracy, just the facts. But, like Van said re that Monsanto quote, to assume that any  of the people in charge of/dominating anyone else to be somehow super-intelligent and following some intelligent plan is laughable.Mankind simply isn't that bright and the Fermi Paradox proves the point. Anyway, I think we ought to steer clear of Aajonus' more wacky "theories" and drop this subject. They were obviously designed to appeal to the rich residents of Malibu, California, and we all know the saying that rich people have more money than sense.....



So all of whats going on systematically happend because it just happend along as society was building up.

I think we can stop the discussion if anyone is getting butthurt.. but I choose not to believe it is by mistake..

It looks too damn perfect to be not real.


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Re: Aajonus' Conspiracy Theories
« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2018, 10:00:09 am »
Maybe we should rename this entire thread as:

"Aajonus' Conspiracy Theories"

So those who want to indulge in the conspiracies know what this is about and those who don't stay away from this?
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« Reply #29 on: May 31, 2018, 11:27:07 pm »
where we differ, is you keep saying 'they'.  As if there's some secret club to turn us into slaves.  And I keep saying that the very things you say 'they' mandate for us to do, 'they do also'.  You don't think that Kellog himself ate his own cereal believing it was good for him?  And even if he didn't,  he did it to make money,, just like every other billionaire entrepreneur that will try to make every buck he can till he stops kicking.   Every one of the injustices you mention can be traced back to some scheme to make big money.

There's more than that. You hear very wealthy, powerful and influential people talking openly about how they want to use vaccinations, the health "care" system, tap water, and GMO foods to lower the population, or to reduce aggressiveness and make people more obedient and docile.

I suppose you can still argue that they're doing all that because they believe it's what's best for everybody, but why shun discussion of these things in a forum about health, when all of these things are designed to damage our health directly?
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« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2018, 12:51:33 am »
Ok, now you have my attention, show me where they are saying that 'openly'.  And please be it the head of the worlds major companies, like a Monsanto, an Exxon, or any or the major drug company players.

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Re: Aajonus' Conspiracy Theories
« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2018, 02:40:19 pm »
Changed the topic name and location to Primal Diet (because it is about Aajonus).

New topic name is "Aajonus' Conspiracy Theories"

Me, I like discovering and discussing conspiracy theories and would like to see how deep the rabbit hole goes, how much success, how many people are really involved at the top or who are unwitting stooges, etc.

As to the original Post:

"And its not because we went somewhere wrong as a society.. its because thats what they want.. they want to make you a weaker race"


It's such a blanket statement that can be taken apart.

Which race do they want weaker?

And I'm not a believer of this "there is only one race, the human race..."  oh please, we are a collection of various races.  I'm mixed up so plenty.

If  Aajonus was talking about the entire what we call humanity, maybe.

But honestly, I don't think so.

I think the eating of cooked food / processed food is way way way above this tiny discussion.

If you look at my posts about the OLD earth where there were GIGANTIC TREES that stood kilometers high... where are those resources now?

If you look at my posts about the old earth being DUG UP, dug up of resources, that grand canyon and its ilk are massive mining, digging operation... how much of the OLD EARTH is absent now?

You think 8 billion people is plenty?  The old earth may have had the capacity to nurture billions more!

Did we "evolve" from such a time or not?

Or were we engineered from such a time or not?

Or were we hybridized along that time or not?

If we are recent hybrids... then we really do not know our "natural" diet now do we?

Why do we have different blood types? 

Why is one man's food another man's poison?

Why do various races look and think and act and perform so different?

If it's about propagating cooked food... then more likely, it is that we have lost the natural resources this planet once had, we may have lost the plentiful raw food this planet once had, so we had to cook things up to survive?

Or we are products of genetic tampering by aliens or older intelligent life forms so we have to innovate as we go along and find out what works with what we have.

I remember now Aajonus saying he does not delve much into original human food or original evolution... he just experiments with what works in the here and now.  And that is how he came up with his primal diet.

I heal people and raise children and wives and I just go with what works and what is doable.

These mental exercises of imagination and truth seeking we should look up as entertainment, brain food, not get angry about it... just savor it is what I'd prefer.

Currently since the 1960s, we are in a depopulation spiral via the old NSSM 200 which is now declassified.  So yeah, the powers that be want us weak and infertile and unable to form families.  They are succeeding. 

Most countries are in their lowest fertility rates ever!
Plus the lowest sperm counts ever!

What am I doing about it?
- I intentionally form families and teach others
- I intentionally breed and teach others
- I intentionally seek health and promote health

What are you doing about it?
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Re: Aajonus' Conspiracy Theories
« Reply #32 on: June 01, 2018, 11:32:47 pm »
Ok, now you have my attention, show me where they are saying that 'openly'.  And please be it the head of the worlds major companies, like a Monsanto, an Exxon, or any or the major drug company players.

Just one example out of many that could be given

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUJMR3BUm2s
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Re: Aajonus' Conspiracy Theories
« Reply #33 on: June 02, 2018, 04:05:54 am »
"conspiracy" population control is only a conspiracy until you do a few second search on youtube and see all the major bankers, pharma companies, and big billionaires talking about it.
Rothschild, henry kissinger, brezinsky, Barbra specter the list goes all you need is the keywords to look this stuff up.

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« Reply #34 on: June 03, 2018, 01:17:24 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIgjujAI6eE

I have been for some time now attempting to form a more mature view of the grand conspiracy, similar to what was espoused by Aldous Huxley's in his interview regarding the "Enemies of Freedom" Huxley takes the viewpoint that instead on focusing on individual perpetrators involved in world domination shemes, one should instead consider the Impersonal forces at work which allow for such tyranny to arise.

You could kill every last illuminati bastard alive today and if the impersonal forces which lead to their original manifestation are not simultaneously dealt with, then the abohrant natural vacuum will in short order fill the void with an entirely new cast of bad actors that will carrion the enterprise of feeding upon the meek, ignorant and vulnerable.   

Ive been attempting to transcend some of the less productive mindsets induced by a lifetime of constantly being deceived and misinformed by the portrayers of authority across all domains of the human endeavor . Early in ones journey there may be some value in cultivating anger and directing it toward the perceived devils, letting the emotions ferret out the scapegoats; Once provoked into taking up a cause, the monkey mind motivates quest for truth, by projecting an oppositional adversarial role upon an universal other.  Though its healthy and natural to get emotionally angry, there is always the danger for such mind states to become pathological and can be just as inwardly oppressive as the perceived outside evils, if not tempered with broader awareness.
 
I am seeking more nuanced perspectives regarding the absurdities that abound the human world. Awaking to the full scope of the great deception can be very troubling and it is easy to blame and rage against the gatekeepers who appear to be responsible for misleading humanity into ages of needless suffering. Though its often difficult to explain such ideas clearly I have found much solace by integrating eastern leaning worldviews, in which the world is superpersonal. Cultivating the unreality of the world, recognizing ignorance as fundamentally necessary for the existence of truth, the contemporary understanding of the nature of life is built upon fundamental illusions that continue to mutate in the endless dance of metamorphic regeneration...these elements of infinite uncertainty allow for mystery magic to be used in the cultivation of the creative power of the entire cosmos. The freedom and courage to fathom such infinite depths can be a more effective defense against the control freak ethos, than getting involved with the kind of linearly limited ideological warfare which is run amok through the social media zeitgeist. 

With a balanced attitude that is less serious and more sincere, and a mind full of deep introspection, it may be much less troubling when there is calling to enter back into the world of human affairs, and champion a noble cause. Much of figuring out what exactly to do about "IT" boils down to figuring out how to play it cool even when the worlds ablaze; if a butterfly's wings flapping gives rise to hurricanes, then God only knows what the collective power of our human minds unleashed could accomplish. This is a kind of cosmic consciousness mindset that has been used with some success by people throughout the epochs to live fulfilling lives even in the darkest of ages. Even if lost to obscurity, never to be recognized by the Scholarly Whore of History, such people empowered by the spirit of wisdom always have and always will exist in the undercurrents, as a necessary counterbalance to mitigate negative effects of the ever devolving conspiracy.
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« Reply #35 on: June 03, 2018, 02:14:11 pm »
Just one example out of many that could be given

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUJMR3BUm2s

Not a great persuasive talk, lacked any credibility and seems meant for those who want to cheer him on..   Show me the evidence that his intended vaccines are killing billions.  And I'm sure if I tried I could easily show you the evidence that someone is making millions on the vaccines.
    What I'm more curious about is the fascination with conspiracy theories in general, as in why are some so attracted to what may or may not be true.  You can shout back, Wake up Man.  But now that you've woken up, How has that helped you along? this may step on a few toes, but my guess is that it's something about wanting to feel more secure  or reduce anxiety from living in a world that is totally  impossible to fully grasp

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Re: Aajonus' Conspiracy Theories
« Reply #36 on: June 04, 2018, 04:49:30 am »
Reductio ad absurdum:- The more gullible among us will certainly appreciate this conspiracy theory:-

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5800695/Man-travelled-year-6491-says-hes-stuck-2018-PASSED-lie-detector-test.html

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« Reply #37 on: June 04, 2018, 08:55:30 am »
Not a great persuasive talk, lacked any credibility and seems meant for those who want to cheer him on..

You're dismissing this because he wasn't persuasive? How is that relevant?

Show me the evidence that his intended vaccines are killing billions.

I could, but that's not the point here. The point is that he believes it can be done and wants to do it. And btw, his "charity" foundation does a lot of these things he mentions in the clip. Mostly in poor african countries.

And I'm sure if I tried I could easily show you the evidence that someone is making millions on the vaccines.

And I never said otherwise.

What I'm more curious about is the fascination with conspiracy theories in general, as in why are some so attracted to what may or may not be true.

Because a lot of them are true or partially true. A lot of them are disinfo operations created, disseminated and supported by those running the real conspiracies, though.

What's more interesting is to consider how so many people are so terribly afraid of finding out the real truths, that they make up excuses for even the most obvious of conspiracies, and continually ridicule those who would show them they're wrong. I've noticed this phenomenon is much more common among people who live in the countries who's governments are most heavily engaged in global conspiracies, than in people living elsewhere. Those living in countries where their gov's conspiracies mostly stay confined within their own country, are generally more willing to look into both local and global conspiracies.

You can shout back, Wake up Man.  But now that you've woken up, How has that helped you along? this may step on a few toes, but my guess is that it's something about wanting to feel more secure  or reduce anxiety from living in a world that is totally  impossible to fully grasp

I look to understand the world and the misconceptions and lies in it, and once I identify a pernicious lie, and figure out the cause for it, I can avoid some of the damage done to me by that lie.  How do you think I even got here in the first place?

The trickiest part is not figuring out the lies, but telling the real lie from the ones that are just made up to catch, distract, discredit and punish someone looking for them.
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Re: Aajonus' Conspiracy Theories
« Reply #38 on: June 04, 2018, 04:01:56 pm »
Reductio ad absurdum:- The more gullible among us will certainly appreciate this conspiracy theory:-

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5800695/Man-travelled-year-6491-says-hes-stuck-2018-PASSED-lie-detector-test.html



So many fantastic things in this world / solar system / galaxy / universe.  We just read on and be entertained.  Who knows if his tale is true?  If one had the time to put in and investigate, do tell.  I currently don't have the time.

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« Reply #39 on: June 04, 2018, 04:32:25 pm »
Well, the , er, man from the future had a Birmingham accent, so , if mankind's  future is controlled by residents of Birmingham, there is hope for the world!
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« Reply #40 on: June 04, 2018, 08:35:27 pm »
just like working with a biofeedback machine to enhance alpha or theta wave for the brain, one can learn  to outwit a lie detector machine.

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« Reply #41 on: June 04, 2018, 10:22:12 pm »
just like working with a biofeedback machine to enhance alpha or theta wave for the brain, one can learn  to outwit a lie detector machine.
Errm, in this one case, I suspect that the real reason he passed the test was that he genuinely believed that he was telling the truth! If one believes one's own lie, then , of course, one passes a lie-detector test. In other words, it really helps if one is completely out of touch with reality....
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« Reply #42 on: June 05, 2018, 04:32:32 am »
Yes, I ran up against the same phenomena in a custody battle.  She fooled everybody, for a while.

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« Reply #43 on: June 05, 2018, 01:24:49 pm »
Yes, I ran up against the same phenomena in a custody battle.  She fooled everybody, for a while.

Ah women... are another issue altogether... belongs to a different discussion... he he he.

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« Reply #44 on: June 06, 2018, 09:24:18 am »
There is no limit to humans ability for self deception and duplicity....this is what gives conspiratorial beliefs some degree of validity...The majority of the seemingly significant events in human history are basically a collective of subjective interpretational consensus.

The subjectivity of all things in no way diminishes the power of false beliefs. As far as human affairs go, Objective truths are not anymore powerful than subjective untruths. Even if the underlying fact patterns are somehow logically twisted by biased minds into the appearance of some grand conspiracy, that doesn't negate the power of such a belief to take hold of the zeitgeist...such ad hoc memes arise organically out of the aether and work in mysterious ways upon the sub-rational elements of human kind, evoking primal limbic-centric emotions into action and leading to dramatic change, on a both subconscious and superconscious levels.

The powerful and instinctive reaction to distrust those claiming power and authority has always been a part of the human endeavor.....techniques of forcing compliance of the population with tyrannical systems of governance, have co evolved with the increasing ability of the subjugated to detect and resist inequity. There is an ongoing psychological arms race, the collective mind is waging against itself, that uses the most unbelievable means to justify the most far out ends.

The use of the label of "Conspiracy Theorist" was ordered by the "mocking bird" Media in America to be used against anybody who question the Coup that went down when the Kennedys were taken out. Then it was expanded to dismiss anyone who didn't believe in the official narratives of anything there after.

What is missing from many of these conversations, is a historic context for the phenomenon of "Conspiracy Theory" as a powerful weapon that has always existed and been used by both the most powerful as well as the most powerless groups of people throughout history. The United states of America was founded by a cabal of Conspiracy Theorist who claimed that a 3% tea tax was a manifestation of great tyranny. Thomas Paine's 'Common Sense" and "Age of reason" were epic Odes against the prevailing Conspiracy of that day, were full of viral memes, and taken to heart by the people of the colonies. These pamphlets were widely read and had a message that was in many ways much more radical and extreme than anything Alex Jones is saying today.


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« Reply #45 on: June 06, 2018, 10:38:08 am »
Alex Jones is actually part of the global conspiracy... Controlled opposition. There were hints of it going back years, while he was ridiculing AV and others and promoting fake health gurus pushing a semi vegan agenda, all the while his show mostly centered around selling all kinds of pills to their listeners. Not drugs, but supplements of all sorts. And terrible "investment" schemes like numismatic gold coins, where you needed the price to go up by 1000% to break even. Even then I refused to believe it, and just passed it off as him being dumb and uninformed.

Once he began cheerleading for Trump it became undeniable. Now he's actually got his audience convinced that the conspirators want to take Trump out because he represents a threat to them. Ha!
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« Reply #46 on: June 06, 2018, 11:02:17 am »
On the subject of Trump, I had been a keen observer of USA presidential elections since the early 1980s.

USA presidential elections had always been rigged at the private party level.

Once the powers that be install their acceptable presidential and VP candidates in each party, they don't care who wins in the actual Presidential election.

I observed Perot (got threatened), Ron Paul (get cheated and ignored by the MSM)... then saw the declaration of candidacy of Donald Trump.

(being a non american living half way around the world, my POV is not colored by any celebrity / stardom / or your MSM sways)

I was listening to Trump and his supporters, and digging up old videos of young Trump... the man has not changed... he is consistent... he is genuine... a man who just happens to be wealthy and a TRUTHER with a "national hero" complex / "national duty to sacrifice" complex.  (I've seen these kinds of people before many times in my own country... I'm one of them... my first call to volunteerism was the Pro-Life movement.)

Alex Jones? I see him on and off.  He's like me, I know where he is coming from.  He just needs a way to fund his operation because YouTube is not allowing him to monetize his content like the approved leftist / MSM narrative.  He's not full gung ho Trump... he criticizes and condemns Trump on issues he fervently disagrees with... like raining missiles on Syria.

What is good about Trump is he saw where Perot and Paul failed and allied with what who he needed to win.  If he didn't he  would not have won or would have gotten a bullet like JFK and RFK.

Historically, Trump is the best reform the USA could have hoped for at this point in history.  Hillary would have been just in the same long line of saboteurs since Bush 1.


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« Reply #47 on: June 06, 2018, 11:38:31 am »
I was listening to Trump and his supporters, and digging up old videos of young Trump... the man has not changed... he is consistent... he is genuine... a man who just happens to be wealthy and a TRUTHER with a "national hero" complex / "national duty to sacrifice" complex.

What do you mean he's consistent? He changes his mind 180 degrees every couple of weeks, you never know what he's gonna say next. And I highly doubt he's a truther, are you sure?

What is good about Trump is he saw where Perot and Paul failed and allied with what who he needed to win.  If he didn't he  would not have won or would have gotten a bullet like JFK and RFK.

Right, so he became one of them and of course he is helping them reach their goals too.

Historically, Trump is the best reform the USA could have hoped for at this point in history.  Hillary would have been just in the same long line of saboteurs since Bush 1.

Economic protectionism, higher gov. spending, higher debt, higher inflation. Getting most every conservative in the country cheerleading for a guy who is not only a total degenerate and brags about it, but is actually a national socialist and the very opposite of what conservatism stands for in every front.

I'd say that qualifies as being the WORST reform the USA could have ever hoped for... Unless you're talking from the point of view of the conspirators we're talking about. From their point of view, Trump is a masterpiece of psyop genius.
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« Reply #48 on: June 06, 2018, 12:03:24 pm »
Trump is not a national socialist, he is a Libtard who is following orders. He was so severely attacked by the Deep State that he is now following their orders to avoid harassment.
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Re: Aajonus' Conspiracy Theories
« Reply #49 on: June 07, 2018, 05:07:43 am »
I insist that a broader historical perspectives could be helpful, in understanding what is currently happening on the world stage. There are a number of parallels to ancient Rome for example. Rome being an empire that was at times ruled by aristocrats, other times it more resembled a populist Republic, and when times got really desperate the Praetorian Cohort would step in to install its own deep state agents into power.

Todays drama is nothing new...during the rise of Caesar the aristocracy planted fake news and hired provocateurs to convince the public that he was a tyrant...while Ceasar pandered to the military and gained populist support...The opposition even made fun of Caesar's bad comb over, and gossiped about his sex life...

The same dynamic tensions between the populist, the aristocrats, and the praetorians that made and broke the Rome Empire are very much at play in today's world...only the labels have been changed and the inter-relationships obfuscated in order to hide the fact that a Republic by day can also simultaneously act as an Empire by night. The truth is that much of what goes on in the relationship between the government and its people is built upon unspoken and tacit arrangements..... the real low down of which are in the best interests of all sides to keep hidden from the outside world.

So in this atmosphere of Coup Coup land there is a deliberate and willful ignorance perpetrated by all sides that prevents most people from getting a fair assessment of what really went down during the "Election" of 2016. From my prospective a Praetorian style Military coup was initiated by those like General Flynn, Admiral Rogers, and the legions of white hats who were mobilized by the voice and spirit of people like Alex Jones, in order to halt a regime that went totally Rogue.

Trump for a long time spoke out openly against the current establishment, and wanted to make a Run years ago, but was too aware of how the system was rigged so that he wouldn't be allowed a fair shot...The deep state was too powerful...During the last administration a resistance movement began to build, and an outright rebellion began within the intelligence services. The NSA was likely taken over by the white-hats.... the whole Snowden saga was likely a false flag in which the CIA used Snowden a black hat tool in order to weaken and try to regain control of the NSA. The info Snowden Released, though full of nuanced details, wasn't anything people like Alex Jones had not already made public years ago. Assange was also fed information through the white hat resistance movement, used to undermine the power of the regime. General Flynn openly rebelled against the administration and refused to continue to arm the mercenaries in the middle east.

The stage was then set and the role was cast.....countless agents worked to lay the groundwork for a "Greater Plan". With the groundwork in place the Generals and their legions briefed Trump of the Plan and insured him that the voting machines would be un-rigged, and he would actually have a fair chance of winning...then it was game on from there on.

This may not be a very popular theory, but it seems as plausible as any explanation.... There was likely a drastic covert military intervention which prevented the regime from maintaining its hold of the executive branch, neither side will ever admit to this for their own separate reasons . The losers do not want to admit that they tried to steal the election and were stopped by military intelligence operatives...and so they are crying Russia Russia Russia in order to distract their own constituents from the Treason which was perpetrated when the nomination was stolen....While the winners want to keep up the illusion of Trump being the front guy, a business guy who will make a better deal with the rest of the world, insisting that the election was fair and legitimate, while playing down the fact that much of the executive branch is now under military occupation.....Congress will not even begin to touch this issue with a thousand foot pole, because both parties were so involved in the corruption of the last regime that any such investigations would indict half the Government for blackmailing, bribing or cheating the other half. 

This whole thing on some level is a farce, a conspiracy, a confederacy of dunces... yet in the midst of the Chaos and confusion the free world continues to turn, and though some of big changes promised at the FDA, CDC, and other rogue agencies are slow going, there is still a hope that those involved in the "Greater Plan" have heard our cries and in the next few years gradually the swamp will be drained, and the new guard will restructure the system more fairly.
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