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I can get hold of raw wild game muscle-meat(moufflon, wild boar, wild mallard duck) with ease, here in Vienna, Austria. Raw organ-meats(dry marrow(the worst kind), raw etc. brain, heart, liver, kidney I can get from standard supermarkets. The organs are not 100% grassfed, but Austrian farming is much less focused on intensive farming.

Basically, if you have the resources, either go in for a hunting licence and get your whole wild game carcasses that way, or grow your own food(eg:- chickens) in your own backyard, for the best results.

Thanks, yeah hunting would be ideal, for now I have to buy whole. I did find the meat I ordered from white oak farms to be very delicious, surprisingly so. In the winter I can get a deer probably but that won't be a big percentage of my diet pound wise ha. Every little bit helps though.

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Anyone here who does zero carb take any electrolyte supplements when sweating a lot? On a traditional diet, on a day of hiking in hot weather you would drink a whole lot of gatorade, or even just water with minerals. Any of you guys to extreme sports where you sweat a lot and add electrolytes to the water? Or would you drink blood, or just add a little salt to your water?


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Reading some of the threads here I came across White Oak Pastures which has a lot of beef organs, fat and bone marrow products you can order online for a reasonable price:

http://www.whiteoakpastures.com/beef/grass-fed-beef-bones-organs-fat.asp

There is one item that seems very convenient, which is their paleo ground beef. http://www.whiteoakpastures.com/beef/paleo-ground-beef.asp. It is "Ground Chuck and Brisket (40%), Beef Liver (20%), Beef Heart (20%), Beef Spleen (10%), Beef Kidney (10%)" so it seems a convenient way to get a variety of organ meats in one food. You can also order the organ meats separately and even Goat and lamb meats and organs. Way more variety than I could ever find locally I believe, especially grassfed and grass finished.

I know Whote Oak Pastures is highly regarded here, but I wanted to see where else you guys find your sources. Hopefully this isn't too off topic, I did notice shopping locally finding certain cuts of bones/organs was sort of hit or miss.

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Safe Stool Frequency
« on: March 20, 2018, 01:31:27 pm »
I've found there are no issues as long as I eat fat. One day I had some limited food and was eating only lean beef and it didn't go very well lol.

What I've read here and on other forums is if you have any issues with constipation you can just add more fat and it will get better.

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: How much raw fat
« on: January 15, 2018, 01:28:03 am »
Can you eat 500g in one day even without any fibre in the diet?

Oh yeah I've had digestive tract issues, going on this diet made my bowel movements normal finally. During the first week or so I felt a bit strange then it worked out.

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Hey everyone,

I just wanted to share something regarding a butcher I found since it relates to my carnivorous diet. I’ve been trying to eat more organic grass fed beef but one issue I had was it was so lean it was harder to get the amount of fat in my diet that I want and I don’t feel as good after eating butter or other cooking fats. However, I just found a butcher who specializes in dry-aged beef who keeps the fat on it, usually 25-50% visible fat, which is exactly what I wanted! I also like the taste of dry-aged beef a lot.

One issue with this place is the cost … about $30/lb for Ribeyes … worth every penny but a bit pricey for me eating 2-3lbs per day. However I noticed if I buy short ribs they are delicious and very fatty and were only about $10/lb which is about what I can get normal grassfed beef for.

So what I plan to do now is maybe still buy some of this dry-aged beef that is grain-finished, but also buy some organic grass-fed beef to mix in with it. I feel sick after eating beef from places like Wal-Mart or Kroger, but not when I eat the high quality dry-aged beef from this place.


If anyone has any comments/concerns with dry-aged beef let me know please. Thanks!

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I eat lamb (the whole animal) and beef bone marrow. I would say, yes, the less I cooked my lamb, the less I could tolerate cooked foods. Eventually I couldn't eat it anymore. Raw has been better on my digestion, and in my opinion, tastes better as well. There are other things that improved, as well, some things that even cooked Zero Carb couldn't cure.


Well I may need to work into this lol ... Raw isn't for me at least for now LOL!

This week I plan to try rare steaks, and see where I can go from there.

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Most here would say yes to the question. Cooking creates heat-derived toxins of various kinds which cause a lot of inflammation. Inflammation is the key initiator of most diseases/illnesses. Also, the lack of water-content of cooked foods would also increase irritation/inflammation.

Thanks for the response. I am going to go raw because raw AND no spices seems the best bet to cure irritation. If I get better for a few months I can look into cooking beef with spices ... but I was going light on them anyways.

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Spices are supposed to be bad for hemorroids at least! So I would try this first, stop them.
No idea if raw or cooked meat has an effect there, for me it is more noticeable "upward".

That makes sense that spices would still irritate. Thanks I'll cut spices out.

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As far as food sensitivity and ease of getting processed by your system, do any of you know if raw beef or blue rare beef would be much different on your system than cooked?

I have had issues with anal fissures and tension in the past. Going carnivorous over the last four months (meat, cheese, spices) has helped but not completely. I think part of the issue may be the garlic and spices in the sausages, and the non-optimal foods (cheese) but I also wonder if I ate only beef and went raw (grass fed) if that would potentially be better.

Do you think going raw would be different enough to try?

I know I can just try it but I thought maybe someone here would be aware of what worked for someone with a similar issue to me. If I knew it would 'probably' be better it would be easier to force myself to eat only raw meat.

Thanks

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