I've seen about people feeding their dogs or cats entire raw eggs they said they ate everything, shell and all, so maybe this is more common among pets than eating only white or yolk? Here are some examples from the PaleoFood forum:
> "My dog eats [eggs] raw, including the shell."
> "...what you do is let him roll the eggs around on the floor or ground until they crack. Then he'll figure out the good stuff is inside, bite it open, and lick up all the goodie, and then crunch up the shell like a Dorito."
We can also eat the shell or some of it if we like it ! Apparently there are different dogs, with different tastes, different needs and different behaviors... just like different humans !
What are the purported reasons or benefits why I should eat eggs like your cat--first the white, then the yolk, then the next white, then the next yolk, and so on (or vice-versa)?
I like both the egg yolk and white and my instinct, taste, mouth-feel and hunger tell me to eat the whole thing at once. I find on ZC that my appetite and digestion have improved and I come closer to "wolfing" my food down (I do chew it, but I am able to eat and digest it rather rapidly). I don't feel an urge to spend time separating little things like egg contents apart or sucking first one part, then another.
It seems to me that most mammals choose carefully what they eat, often selecting a part and leaving the rest. Of course, if we like both whites and yolks (and perhaps shells also !) we can eat entire eggs at once ! I suppose we would do it in case of extreme hunger. But eating each part separately allows us to “fine tune” and adjust our intakes closer to our body needs. For example, one may eat 4 whites and 7 yolks, plus perhaps a little bit of shell.
Right, that sounds like two rules: 1) eat “what smells and tastes good is good for you” and 2) don't eat anything artificial, processed, mixed, or heated over 40°C (and the second rule could be considered four rules if I was being picky ).
OK Phill ! In an environment 100% natural only rule 1 applies. Rule 2 becomes necessary when new stuff and processes that haven’t been present long enough (at least some hundreds thousands years probably) in the environment in which our ancestors evolved are added.
Apparently, another Instincto rule is that it's OK to eat some foods that were inedible and/or unavailable during the Stone Age, like domesticated bananas, as long as they are part of a Stone Age category of foods (like fruits). I used to think this was an OK assumption to follow, but I question it now (as regards what works for me).
I agree that must be questioned. (By the way, everything should be questioned to satisfy Descartes rule of methodical doubt – which is a fundamental pillar of the scientific method.) At least we should be cautious with food like bananas, as well as all stuff that has been subject to intensive artificial selection, and always prefer the wildest available varieties. This applies to meat as well.
Basically, what I do well on. I had a similar experience as Lex. I didn't do well eating what my parents or tastes told me to eat and what the doctors and "experts" were telling me and doing for me didn't help much, so I did my own research, found that much of the raw science substantially disagreed with conventional medicine, nutrition and the popular media. My research provided clues as to what would be optimal. I also asked a lot of questions, like I am of you now. I tested the claims that made the most sense and could withstand logical questioning and investigation and found what I did well on. Because of all the artificial and processed junk in the world that overrides our instincts, we can no longer rely on instinct alone to determine what foods to eat, as you discussed above, and have to rely also on our brains.
Yes, sound approach – which is similar to mine.
I would add that it can be sometimes misleading to base one’s conclusions on short term observations. For example, a cup of coffee can make you feel better for a while and conversely a raw wild food that you liked may trigger an uncomfortable detoxination process (beneficial in the end, but not appearing so at first sight). These facts complicate our investigations quite a lot and it is often difficult to establish clearly what would be our “optimal food”.
Yes. I don't concern myself too much about what other people are eating beyond close friends and relatives, except in fleshing out my own thinking and advancing my own learning. As a matter of fact, if you could change your diet to grains, dairy, legumes, sweeteners and additives, that might help keep the cost of my meat/fat/organs down (just kidding or am I? ).
I don’t know, really. Agriculture is probably the greatest environmental nuisance on Earth; by buying its products we contribute to the degradation of our living conditions.
Yes, these points make more intuitive sense to me than separating whites and yolks, and, yes, these are reasons why I limit the amount of eggs I eat and am trying to keep enough easy-to-eat meat/fat/organs on hand that I won't need the convenience of eggs as much. Because our foods are changed and adulterated in ways like this, we can no longer rely on instinct alone, unfortunately, and have to also rely on our brains.
Sure. Eggs satisfying our requirements are not available all year round and therefore the period in which we can eat good enough eggs is naturally limited.
Some people cheat with other foods that are not 100% Paleo like like butter or kefir. My cheats at this point in my transition are eating eggs year-round, teas, some olive oil, some light cooking of certain meats/fish, and tallow/pemmican. I doubt I'll ever be able to be 100% "pure," if that's even possible in the modern world. My objective is to maximize my health and well being rather than to hold to some level of purity for its own sake. For example, if I stop drinking tea completely it will be because there is a plausible reason for doing so (antinutrients) and because I do better when I do (possibly avoid occasional heartburn)--not just because tea is heated. I believe that rules should serve me, rather than that I should serve rules. If becoming more pure makes sense, helps my health and well being, and is practicable, then I'll do it. One problem I face is that I live in a tiny urban apartment without cellar or pantry storage and a tiny fridge, so it is more difficult for me to be pure than many people.
Throw away your damned cooker, it’ll make more room in your apartment – perhaps useful to bring in a bigger fridge ! Tea is very similar to coffee (example I mentioned above) and cooking, even light or perhaps even more so, is harmful and only generate entropy
. You might try raw, unmixed tea leaves and check how it tastes.
BTW, I don't want to come across as too critical of Instincto, as it is very close to my own approach, so I'll reiterate that it is far superior to SAD and correct on a lot of things, based on my own experience and research. Excellent posts, I'm learning quite a bit.
Thanks Phill. No problem, intelligent critics such as yours are constructive and very much welcome.
Cheers
Francois