I'm enjoying some really fatty brisket, raw and unadulterated.

This reminds me that some folks here said that Asian markets should have the exotic tropical fruits that people rave about here, like safus, durian, custard apple and so forth. I diligently checked out all the local Asian and health food markets, hunting down every one I could find, to the tiniest little Asian and Indian markets, and none of them had a single one of these fruits, so no luck here. Even coconuts are considered relatively exotic and sold in very small numbers in this area, LOL.

That doesn't surprise me that much Phil. Maybe I'm misguided in my thinking but I would assume that where you are there isn't a large percentage of recent Asian immigrants. You stock the market for what the locals will buy.

For the record the Asian market I frequent is in Hartsdale, about 20-25 miles north of NYC, and is a supplier of many local Asian restaurants as we have a large population of first and second generation Asian immigrants in the area. I've only found frozen durian and jackfruit when I went but they've had tons of other fresh "exotic" fruits (persimmons, mountain apples, dragonfruit, many varieties of mangos & papayas, guavas, passion fruits, calamansi, kumquats, mangosteen, longan, rambutan, lychee, etc, etc.) and green coconuts.

The fruit I have difficulty sourcing when I want to indulge is Cherimoya. Everything is shipped from California or abroad and it's very perishable so is rarely available. I've actually had the best luck finding it in Hannaford's supermarkets.

Eat it by itself. It's really filling and I doubt it will mix well with muscle meat. I'd also make sure it was warm when you ate it; I doubt it would be as appetizing cold.

Dr Ron is a fan of the WAPF and has written articles about that diet.


The last time I bought some raw wild game, I had one of the butchers ask me how I cooked the meats, as they occasionally do. I rarely have the guts to state that I eat it raw, so I just stand there, usually, quite speechless. The trouble is that if I'm honest, then that just causes more problems.

Tell him you eat it plain without much preparation; you like the flavor of the game to come through without adulteration. No lies yet you don't have to worry about telling them you eat it raw.

I'm thinking my strategy maybe should be fruit only in the morning. Does that make sense? I love fruit... right now I'm hooked on fresh bahri dates. It's the season. They melt in your mouth like caramel. And you want more and more... until you have a stomachache and you've spoiled your dinner.

If I ate fruit that would be how I would do it.

Also why is suet harder to digest?

It's a much more saturated fat so needs more bile to process.

Re: amounts of food for daily eating, I eat about 1 pound of meat/fish daily, plus some fruit and raw dairy.  I eat about 50% more than that if I'm doing a physically active job.  I'm about 135-140 pounds.  If you're very active, or much larger than me, then you could, at least theoretically, need that much food in one day.

I'm 175 and pretty active when I can be. I can't do a large  amount of food (3+ pounds) multiple days in a row though. Some days I'll crave more food than my normal which is 2 to 2 1/2 pounds of meat and those are the days that get up to 3+. They almost always correlate to recovery after a particularly tiring day.

Hey Dan - I was being tongue-in-cheek about Paleo Phil as he was the one who over years demonstrated calm loving and respectful information to my raw vegan self and therefore the reason I am here. Just bantering a bit with Zi as we both know he's a doll.

It's getting to be time for bed. I caught it at first and then responded at face value without thinking. It's all good; Phil knows we love him.

And on the topic of oversight/moderation I feel that if we did create a vegan or vegetarian sub-forum that Skinny Devil would be an ideal face to lead it. He's eating almost vegetarian now but with some meat tossed in here and there. He's also in great shape and has a great outlook on life. Exactly who you want helping folks with that next step showing them it's not so scary. Then again I don't know if he's able to commit much time either.

Time for another break from the forum I feel. I don't think I have access to any grass fed fats here, and don't enjoy the questionable lamb mince at all.

I have also had many problems adapting to raw paleo and low carb which I've posted about repeatedly, and can't deal with the ups and downs with work and life at the moment.  So back to doing the best I can with diet, and not thinking about how it's harming me too much!

Hopefully...someday...maybe I can be raw paleo. All the best in the meantime. Happy hunting!

Take care Josh.

We got 7 inches of really heavy snow. Power went out Saturday around 10PM and is still out at the house. Never thought I'd be so happy to be at work.
My wife brought her Ball Python to work today as part of her Halloween costume. Beats worrying about it freezing to death.

I bought some Calcium Bentonite clay tonight. I'm going to give it a go as a tooth abrasive and take some internally to see how I do with it.

The organ experiment didn't go well.
Too much liver in the mix made me have a noticeable flare-up of the Candida with general malaise and brain fog the next day. I also got bound up and had foul, mucus-filled stools for a couple days.
It's possible that it was a "detox" but I'm not convinced. I'm going to have just heart in a couple days and make sure that goes well. Then I'm going to do kidney on it's own and test that. It's just a bitch as liver is so nutrient dense.

We got our first snow tonight. Not much in the way of accumulation but it's definitely a harbinger of winter. I'm not looking forward to less exercise outdoors. I'm still going to try and get a run in each day I'm not doing weights at the gym but I expect to freeze my ass off.

My neighbor has a venison processing plant and he mostly tosses the heads in the trash. I am going to get what I can he doesn't want to give me or sell me much, he is friendly, I don't understand the rules of venison exchange.

You can't sell game meat in New York. You can give it away though.

I was given some of last years venison from a friend. It was wrapped in paper and doesn't taste good. I like frozen venison, but this isn't as good, it isn't horrible, but  I'm wondering if I'll get much health benefit from old frozen meat.

I've had venison that was over a year old given to me. I ate it and while it did taste a bit different it still felt more nourishing than farmed grassfed/finished  meat. Your mileage may vary.

 I can give it to my doggy. I drink lots of tea, to stay warm, I'm also making chicken neck bone broth, to eat warm, but will it be healthy? I thought I try and find out, I add lots of hot pepper to my food, but nothing makes me any warmer. Hot food doesn't make me warmer either, it is just seems more inviting when I'm always cold. I want to be hardy. I would love your suggestions.
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If the chickens are truly pastured the broth should be pretty good for you. Obviously you will be trading off some benefits as it's not raw but it'll have lots of collagen and minerals in it.
I sometimes have issues with the cold. I find that an early morning run and an earlier lunch with lots of fat will help me warm up. My personal experience is the run (or other intense physical exercise) gets my body processing the fat better and I get more energy out of it ramping my core temperature up.

I'm in New York Adora but hours away from you. I live it Putnam and Work in Dutchess Counties.
The chat never really picked up. We had a couple chats but everyone is so busy and from different time zones that it never congealed here.

There is a raw foods group on Facebook with a number of our members here as members there. You might be able to add some of them and chat through Facebook.

We went and picked up our food order yesterday.
I bought 1 pound of beef heart, 1 pound of beef liver, and 3/4 pound beef kidney. Quickly pulsed it in a food processor, mixed thoroughly, and froze individual Tablespoon servings. I had my first dose with dinner and I definitely noticed I was more full when finished and feel overall even more sated as the night wears on. We'll see how well I do with multiple days.

I went to the weight room at the gym Friday night. Did some upright machine simulating bench pressing (had no spotter to bench), did a squat machine, leg presses (machine-regular and deep knee), dips, and pull/chin-ups. My legs and ass are still sore.
I've got one session with a personal trainer per what we get when we sign up at the gym so I'm trying to set it up for a Friday to get good one-on-one instruction with the different machines & free weights allowing me to start things off correctly.

I also had a good conversation with an employee at one of the hospitals I work with. We got talking about moccasins after he commented on my Soft Stars. Turns out he's been hunting for decades and working all the hides of what he kills to make his own clothing & shoes. He has a lot of great stories (his crowning achievement was he tracked a 408 pound bear barefoot then took it down with a bow he had made himself). He told me about Tom Brown Jr's training courses which he has attended multiple times and credits for much of what he knows in his tracking & outdoor abilities. After reading up about the classes I'm planning on eventually attending at least the standard class with my wife so we have a good base knowledge beyond what we've accumulated on our own.