Ok for the pastured beef, but two questions remain open: how is this meat after (or right before) slaughter treated? How do you eat it? All kinds of reasons can make that the organoleptic characteristics of the meat are altered (for example mechanical treatment to make it more tender, grinding,  addition of a little salt, too systematically mixing fat and flesh, etc). It is enough to modify a little the organoleptic characteritics of the meat for the alliesthesic mechanisms do not function normally anymore. One can then be accustomed to eat a food very frequently while the body doesn’t have any need for it. The danger is double: on one hand overload in some nutrients, on the other hand a blocking to other foodstuff may occur.

I eat it in different ways.
Often just sliced directly from slab, eating it pure and cold, but I also airdry it sometimes, like ground beef burgers airdried for 12 hours, or jerky. Love them. Sometimes I make beef tartar.
Seldom I fry it rare (rather "blue" ) in the pan, this could also happend if I eat out. I always feel great after eating meat, it is so strange! Feel just good.
Oh, I like aged meat too. I often age it for a week or more in the fridge.

I eat about 500 grams to 1 kg meat a day, about 90-160 grams pure protein maybe.
My Halibut is wildcaught and fresh, not frozen etc. or salted. I always eat it plain, love the fatty taste.

A protein overload is particularly dangerous because of the interactions with the immune system, knowing that the surplus molecules, badly degraded, keep their antigenic structures. The reactions can be of two principal types: a food intolerance of allergic type, or a tolerance which settles with the long-term repetition, i.e. the immune system will not react any more to certain antigen classes close to bovine molecules. It is in my opinion this tolerance (or more exactly the whole lot of these tolerances induced by all kinds of food molecules badly degraded under effect of digestive or metabolic overloads) is partly responsible for the immunity failures which leave the field free to the proliferation of abnormal cells, therefore to cancer.

I try to follow my body every day to see if I get some symptoms that are no good, but still nothing there.
Only good things happend, like my skin is better, my teeths, my gums never bleed anymore not even after flossing!
I feel calm and strong. Satisfied.  
I also was taking bloodtest a few weeks ago, they was abslot perfect, also my B12 status was very good and vit.D too!
My cholesterol-levels was totally fine, high cholesterol, but a lot of HDL and my triglycerides was really low. Perfect.
 

Absolutely: wild game meat quickly gets a strange taste, which corresponds to the instinctive stop. The rule which has been empirically set is that one should eat only wild meat and only if it is marvelously tasty, just like seasoned (what I call the “luminous phase”). As soon as it takes a strong and unattractive “wild game” savor, it is quite simply that it is useless or harmful.
 

Yeah, I never continue eating if strange tasting, that's for sure.
I was ordering Entrecote from Orkos sometimes, I never got tired of that eather..

A repetitive fondness for a nonfood plant precisely testifies to a permanent disorder, which could be due to a systematic protein's overload. Normally, after having ingested some a few days, the linden leaves should appear detestable to you. Unless, once again, that you bought them in the traditional circuits, where they are very generally hot dried.

Oh, no, it is not that I am craving Linden-leaves..   I just eat them if I am out walking, just because they are there and for free. They are tasty too, and I eat some other wild edibles like nettles etc. too but just a little.
But Linden-leaves I can use for food, they are so mild and soft. That's when there is only a little money back for food, then I eat them in larger quantities..
 

To my knowledge this tradition comes from the Jewish religion. It could be explained by the fact why the Jews nourished their pigs with their kitchen left overs. It was then not difficult for them to notice some disorders of behavior in the consumers, the abnormal molecules concentrated in the meat causing an anomalous excitation of the nervous system, for example an aggressiveness or sexual excitation excess, therefore a difficulty to obey the Ten Commands…
 

Yes, that must be why pork is no good..  eating kitchen leftovers. No wonder the meat stinks.

One or two teaspoons can be an excess, if your body does not need any cassia this day. The absolute quantity does not make sense since it does not take account of the real needs of the body. Excess starts at the time one absorbs a quantity exceeding the need (or digestive potential). Perhaps there are days when you would need carob, or another antidiarrhea

Hm. But it tasted good back then. Sweet. I liked it.
Now I can eat it no more.. I have some in my fridge and when I tried it it was so ugly-sweet.. No thanks.

I thought the same thing during years, then experiments led me to reverse the idea: we evolved from primates which would have adapted during million years to tropical countries, so that an exotic choice of products compensates for the scarcity of adequate products in our current habitat (which would probably never have been possible without the use of fire).

But we also evolved from Cro-Magnon, and have Neanderthal-genes in us too. They was eating mostly meat..
What do you think?
Aren't we used to it? That is what my body tells me..

The reasoning has something satisfactory: the products found where one live should be eaten. But nothing says that in a few thousands years we adapted physiologically to the Scandinavian region. We likely live in places where the products which should eat do not grow…

Yeah. But I believe I have extremely much of the Neanderthal-genes..
They lived in the North, don't they?

Inger

Hello GCB!

Do you really think raw meat can cause cancer, even without fruits? (AGEs)

Don't you think, it could have been the meat and fruit combination (eaten on same day) that was no good?
As you got this lump at the back of your knee (from raw meat eating), was you eating fruits/sugar too, then?

How comes that meat tastes good to me all the time. If the instincto-theory really worked, I had to get tired of it someday..? (I have never been Vegan or such, always eating meat and fish, so my need for these should not be that big, how it comes thaat I feel better without any fruits at all..)
I don't even think of fruits anymore.

By the way, I used Kassia every morning for three years. Now I have the feeling, it just prevented the nutrients absorbing. No good.
I don't use it anymore.


Inger

Hi Rayne,

what was you eating before you started with raw milk?

Why do you got these shadows under your eyes at first?

Maybe it was not the milk that helped only, maybe the raw meat/organs did too?

Inger

Hi Rayne,  

hier;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_pulling

Inger

Well,
I dont deworm my cat eather, even if the common understanding says, you have to deworm your pets regularely.
I give her only raw meat and fish, but she goes a lot outside too, like your cat,
so it is hard to control what she eats.
But, I would only deworm her if she were sick in some way, but she is not! She looking and acting healthy.

Inger

Hi!

I have bloodtype A too, and had no problems with transition to ZC.
Feel very good on "meat only".

No idea what to think of this bloodtype-diet. I tend to think, it is bullshit. 
(why it works for someone, must be because they eat less bread and other things that would be bad for everyone..)

Inger

GS,

I don't believe in this theory that we are animals.  
We have much in common, yes, but still we are totally different in my view.  

Sex have something like a very spiritual touch, in my opinion. It can be  psychological healing and allows us touch each other on a very deep level. So beautiful.
I'm mean good sex, not just "popping" (sorry, don't know how to explain this in English  ). It melts the frozen soul.. and so I found myself crying after really good sex, not only one time.
Very freeing and so strange, cause it was not that i was sad, it was just so melting, so a wonderful feeling. The ice just melted away in there.   And the beautiful feeling lasted long time after.
This is why I believe, sex is not only for reproduction. My experiences are different.

But it might be that I think/feel this way because I am a woman. Who knows.  
Are there any guys in here who have similar experiences?

Inger

What kind of fat is that around the heart (beef)?
Is that suet too?

I like it a lot, just tried it for first time a few days ago. Tasty. 

Inger

Kurite,

I dry the meat on low temperature maybe two-three days, and grind it and mix it with soft marrow (that I have leaved out from the refrigerator for a day or two, then it gets soft and easy to mix in).
I mix it with my hands, like when you make a cake-dough.. mixing butter and flour together with your fingers. Just the same way.

Sometimes I use raw coconut oil as fat, love the taste.  

Inger

I'll visit there some time, though it's a bit far. Inger, do you have a younger sister? 

You are welcome, Hans!  

I have five younger sisters. The youngest is 15 years old, I am 33.
I so love my sisters (and my brothers too, BTW).  

They don't eat raw meat, though.. exept.. they do always want to taste it (and says it tastes great ), when I visit my parents and eat my raw meat there. Sometimes I do make carpaccio for them all.
 (my mom and dad do not want to try raw meat, BTW.. they seem to be this old school who thinks raw meat is dangerous.   But they are not frightened about me, thats good, I think they see that I am healthy and happy, thats enough  )

Hi KD,

Awesome. Is this the most recently profile pic as well? you look like a totally different person than the last.

Yes, this picture is from yesterday.
The other one was just after I started ZC in January this year. 

Inger

Ok.
Thanks, Tyler.

actionhiero,

can you post what you eat each day? 
That would be intresting!
How much fat.. etc.

Are you eating organs etc.? Eggyolks? Have you tried wild edibles?
I count them to ZC too, because they have almost no carbs. Just a LOT of vitamins and minerals. True medicine... maybe you could need some now.. to help you in your transition.

It might take some weeks to feel good. Altough I don't remember this myself, I felt quite good from the beginning..

Inger