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Off Topic / Re: another famous vegan youtuber stops veganism
« on: January 09, 2019, 01:45:57 pm »
Well, it's obvious, not killing animals or eating animals killed by others is a powerful assertion of caring for the lives of others. Plants and fruits do not have the same power, despite them being in many ways as complex as animals.

At least these people are being honest. I am sure there are many others who carry on being  100% vegan until death, without ever admitting to health-problems.


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Off Topic / Re: Give us a laugh !
« on: January 09, 2019, 02:55:57 am »
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6568377/Performer-gnaws-raw-piglet-carcass-slaughtering-stage-traditional-Indian-play.html


"ALL TRUTH PASSES THROUGH THREE STAGES. FIRST, IT IS RIDICULED. SECOND, IT IS VIOLENTLY OPPOSED. THIRD, IT IS ACCEPTED AS BEING SELF-EVIDENT.” (ARTHUR SCHOPENHAUER)

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Yes, it is. However, unless you are extremely careful, you will find that flies will lay their eggs in a warm climate all over the lid of the closed box where the high-meat is contained. So, it is very easy for the eggs to fall in once you open the lid. I am not a fan(as yet) of raw meat filled with crawling maggots.

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Science / Re: drinking milk and dying earlier
« on: January 09, 2019, 02:09:58 am »
Precisely my point. They use problems from pasteurized dairy to attack raw dairy.
No, they were indicating that excess calcium was the problem. You have not put forward any proof that excess  calcium from raw dairy would be immune to this issue.
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There's plenty of science supporting it. Including Pottenger's vasts studies on cats, as well as Weston Price's studies on indigenous peoples. Not to mention the simple fact that all mammals fed their raw mother's milk develop much better bone and teeth health than those fed pasteurized or cooked milks. You claim this is because it's the mothers' milk, or milk from the same species. I'm sure this has benefits. But it could just as well be the cooking of the milk that causes most of the problems.
  Wrong. Milk is not only widely different among the various mammals, it is also different, depending on the mother's and infant's needs, as the female body changes nutrients as required:-

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/seven-most-extreme-milks-animal-kingdom-180956588/


https://www.todaysparent.com/baby/breastfeeding/magical-ways-breastmilk-changes-to-meet-your-babys-needs/

Pottenger's study was very unscientific. It focused on cats, not humans, and it did not take into account the obvious fact that cats would thrive better on a raw meat diet than on diets including lots of raw cows' milk. Weston-Price made all sorts of absurd unscientific claims with short visits to many different tribes. He therefore could not have amassed sufficient data to back up his claims. Now, if he had spent, say, a year or two for each tribe, that would have been more credible.
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None of this proves that raw dairy was in any way part of the problem, that is simply an assumption you make on zero evidence. For all we know they could've been even worse off without the raw dairy and consuming more grains and cooked meats/vegetables instead.
. No, the evidence, provided by archaeologists, is clear-cut and available all over the Internet.

 The http://darwinian-medicine.com/does-milk-really-strengthen-your-bones/  fact is that  if raw dairy were indeed so good for bones, then pastoral societies, which consumed raw dairy but no grains, would have had bones  as strong or stronger than in Palaeolithic times.

Hard to say if that was in fact the case. And even if it was, it might be in moderate amounts like we see in later periods.
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Wrong, here's some info on the ancient egyptian diet which states that
http://anthropology.msu.edu/anp264-ss15/2015/02/12/the-ancient-egyptian-diet/ which states that bread was a major component of all social classes' diets there.

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Science / Re: drinking milk and dying earlier
« on: January 08, 2019, 06:35:29 pm »
You keep using pasteurized dairy studies to justify your bias against raw dairy. The researchers can "blame" whatever they want, that doesn't mean they're right, that's not how science works and you should know it. Even if the calcium itself is the problem, it could very well be that pasteurizing the dairy has an effect on the calcium molecules and how they're bound to other nutrients, as well as the absorption / fixing / elimination once they enter the body.
  The whole text was based on the dangers of excess calcium, not on the issue of raw vs pasteurised. Your suggestion that raw calcium is somehow magically protected from wearing the osteoblasts out is dodgy and not yet supported by any science.
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Doesn't it strike you as odd that humans have been drinking raw milk for thousands of years without anyone ever blaming any diseases on them until pasteurization came along?
Dead wrong. The whole point of the palaeolithic diet is that  Neolithic consumption of grains and raw dairy led to vast ill-health in humans. Bear in mind that, prior to pasteurisation, dairy was mostly drunk in raw form. Also, bear in mind that scientific evidence shows that palaeolithic-era skeletons all had much stronger bones compared to Neolithic-era skeletons, yet palaeo HGs did not consume raw dairy unlike Neolithic-era HGs. So, clearly, raw dairy consumption leads to weaker bones. Also, consumption of grains and (mostly raw) dairy led to significantly decreased average height, plus may have been responsible for the c. 10-11% drop in average human brain-size.
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And before you bring up grains, it was well known that grains weren't healthy, which is why they were the food of poor people who couldn't afford more expensive foods. It's only in recent times that grains have been touted as health foods.
Grains were consumed by all social classes in Neolithic times.

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Off Topic / Fighting back against the Looney Left vegans...
« on: January 08, 2019, 12:48:50 am »


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6565019/Vegan-23-appalled-outraged-heartbroken-Pizza-Hut-ice-cream-contained-dairy.html


The snowflakes have managed to get their way by constantly complaining about even the slightest infringements of their POV. I would suggest that  we non-snowflakes  do the same and immediately complain whenever our own POV is being attacked....

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General Discussion / Re: Melissa Henig, RVAF diet guru
« on: January 07, 2019, 07:49:11 pm »
on her Utube channel, she's making lots of foods to taste good, as in mixing all sorts of combinations and many are quite sweet laden.  She's trying to appeal to the masses.
It's all about small steps. Few people are going to switch to RVAF diets if  they see people eating high-meat in public without cutlery. The social conditioning  against eating raw meat is quite powerful. I reckon, for example, that, despite my pre-RPDv diet ill-health, that I would never have switched to going RPD if I had not eaten lots of  raw aged cheese and raw oysters as a child.

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Off Topic / UK Hard-Left Party want to impose a meat-tax
« on: January 07, 2019, 07:45:56 pm »


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6564383/Piers-Morgan-slams-flexitarian-Green-Party-deputy-Amelia-Womack-meat-tax-debate-GMB.html

There is also more interference with food by Belgium, though, unusually, it is a positive thing:-

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6564631/Belgium-bans-halal-kosher-slaughter-methods-animals-killed-without-stunned-first.html

Personally, I wouldn't mind kosher and halal being available for the 2 religions, but I am horrified by companies and governments deliberately forcing non-Jews/non-Muslims to eat kosher/halal meats. For one thing, I like my raw meat to be good and bloody.

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* I cannot believe I missed this* In the 2nd Batman film of Burton, Batman Returns, the Penguin, portrayed by that amazing Danny DeVito, eats raw fish in at least 1 scene.

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Parenting / Re: What are the ideal foods to introduce after lactation
« on: January 07, 2019, 06:38:51 am »


No, she did not feed on raw oysters or raw aged cheeses during pregnancy. Mostly, it was raw wild trout from Kashmiri lakes during that time, apparently. The point was that because my father recommended some raw animal foods during my childhood, I was better able to switch to RVAF foods by the age of 30. Another point I should add is that pressure to eat processed, cooked foods comes shortly after weaning, what with synthetic baby foods, McDonald's etc. I know many relatives who ate McDonald's crap during childhood and, since then, could never overcome their addiction to junk foods.

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General Discussion / Re: Melissa Henig, RVAF diet guru
« on: January 07, 2019, 05:34:58 am »


Admittedly no, I do not have the book. The least worst book would probably be Guy-Claude Burger's book "The War of Raw".

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Parenting / Re: What are the ideal foods to introduce after lactation
« on: January 07, 2019, 05:33:45 am »
 I only know what I was partially fed on, which was mashed carrots before full weaning. Unfortunately, pasteurised buffalo milk was apparently a (forced) staple  to a great extent after weaning. My recommendation would be to feed as much RVAF diet food, including raw ground meats right at the start, but only after weaning. Imo, HG tribes routinely breastfed their babies for a full 2 years after birth - while this was partially for contraceptive effect, it also helped boost the infant immune-system etc.  Also, another key aspect is that the baby already gets used to the taste of foods in the womb - if the pregnant mother already is eating cooked junk foods that won't help much. In my own case, I  was helped a bit by the fact that my mother often carelessly left out pieces of fresh, raw kidney which I would duly steal and swallow - plus my father had a preference for raw aged cheeses and raw oysters.

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General Discussion / Re: Melissa Henig, RVAF diet guru
« on: January 07, 2019, 05:27:06 am »


https://www.amazon.com/Raw-Paleo-Extreme-Advantages-Eating/dp/0692623779/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1546809922&sr=1-1&refinements=p_27%3AMelissa+Henig

You are right, except for the fact that  most people prefer to follow 1 specific dietary guru in the manner you speak of.

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Off Topic / Re: Vegan social-engineering examples
« on: January 07, 2019, 12:52:40 am »


I once predicted that future generations would be forced to eat  pills and dire liquids all based on artificial substances. The above is just more proof thereof....

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Off Topic / Re: Vegan social-engineering examples
« on: January 07, 2019, 12:50:44 am »


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6562459/From-fishless-fingers-vegan-versions-tuna-scampi-prawns-sushi.html

It seems that the vegan movement is steadily overrrunning the UK. Luckily, here in Vienna, there have been a number of closures of vegan, hipster cafes so it can't be that popular over here.

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General Discussion / Melissa Henig, RVAF diet guru
« on: January 06, 2019, 04:34:58 am »


Here's a RVAF diet guru that's worth supporting, imo:-

http://learntruehealth.com/raw-paleo-diet/

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Off Topic / Minor RPD recommendation
« on: January 05, 2019, 04:05:50 am »


A local supermarket, Merkur, has been extremely diligent in providing RPD-friendly foods in high quantities and often very low prices. While I avoid the raw chicken and raw turkey, even though they taste  a lot less worse than the intensively-farmed chicken and turkey found in the UK and the US,  I now have found raw goose meat available there as well. It is lovely and fatty, with the red meat part being fatty which is key for me re taste(I can only handle white fat if from 100% grassfed raw leg of lamb). From past encounters with goose eggs in the UK, I gather that geese, unlike some other fowl, have to be fed on grass and similiar in order to remain healthy, so the geese don't get the 100% soy/100% corn diets that other birds usually have forced on them. Best of all, on Fridays and Saturdays, the supermarket loves to slap -50% off labels on their meats and, since I have no absurd fear of food-poisoning or whatever nonsense, I often pay as little as  1 euro 50 cents for 2 pig's tongues.

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General Discussion / Re: Healthy budget diet?
« on: January 04, 2019, 06:55:02 pm »
Frying in lard would be better.

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General Discussion / Re: Healthy budget diet?
« on: January 04, 2019, 02:48:28 am »
I live in Europe. Unless I intend to be on a 500 calories a day diet, there's no way for me to get my hands on quality raw food currently.

So I have to pick between lesser evils.
Err, Europe is a rather large area. Please give details re country and county and local towns so that we can search online and find what you may need..

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General Discussion / Re: Healthy budget diet?
« on: January 03, 2019, 10:00:26 pm »
For various reasons, pork is always better than chicken. However, I strongly disagree with your observations. I view anywhere on the planet as having access to high quality RPD foods. Granted, one has to try all sorts of different methods, depending on location, but it is always possible. Where do you live?

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Off Topic / Re: Vegan social-engineering examples
« on: January 03, 2019, 05:24:04 pm »

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6549649/McDonalds-offers-vegetarian-Happy-Meal-children.html

Hmm, I once saw a local McDonald's restaurant which, for a time, offered 100% grassfed beef burgers as an option. It failed to last, but, who knows, perhaps in the future, we might get a raw-meat burger or whatever would be most RPD-friendly. It would be a really good sign of success.

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