Here is the full online version of Stefansson's book "The Fat of the Land", posted as a sticky :-


http://www.zerocarbage.com/library/FOTL.pdf

(I should add a note of caution:- Stefansson is decidedly anti-raw and anti-organ-meats in his views so is extremely reluctant to admit that the Eskimoes ate plenty of raw meats and organ-meats - all other Arctic explorer-types state that the Eskimoes did indeed eat plenty of either. Stefansson's stance was that one could get by on a diet consisting only of fatty muscle-meat, so he is very biased re this. Ironically, in his Bellevue experiment, Stefansson and his colleague ate some raw organs(raw marrow), thus rather disproving his theory that they weren't needed).

Well, if it was me, I would keep them as pets, but then I'm just a big old softie.

Actually I've  heard some female RPDers claim that they got more attention from men if they mentioned doing  this diet.

    Both times I got raw mussels, it was from the regular supermarket, and both times for different reasons, it didn't work out well as a meal (cut my hands bad, just plain pongy mussels my cats wouldn't even go near).  I wasn't able to get over to a monger or good butcher those two times.  I'm not sure there is a fish monger here, but there was where I got the mussels (out of state).  I don't recall having seen mussels at the monger, I have gotten great seafood from them.  Whole Foods Market carries mussels, do you think they might be good?  Their not previously frozen sustainably harvested fish has always been good.

    As far as crab, the live ones I've seen are so small.  Would they be easy to eat with nutcracker and nutpick?  That's what stopped me from buying them; I wasn't sure how to eat them.

I think I wrote down how to cut up crabs and lobsters in the culinary creations/recipes subforum. If not, I haven't time to write anything until next week as I#m abroad.

Mussels are an acquired taste, being very acrid. I use a walnut cracker to crack them open and use my teeth to get the flesh out. I then put the mussel-flesh into a glass and, after dealing with a 100 mussels, the glass is mostly full and I then sluice off the seawater in the mussels by pressing down on them with some implement, and upending the glass.

Avoid wholefoods except as absolute last resort - hideously expensive and of dubious quality, judging from my UK wholefoods experience.

    How do I get cod roe? 

    I'd like to try raw crab.  I've eaten raw lobster and raw shrimp, very tasty, both!


    I've eaten several kinds of raw oysters.  I like the less salty ones.  Check around to see which ones you might like.  Raw mussels are disgusting.  Maybe I just had bad luck, but I couldn't eat them, they were gross.

Raw crab and raw cod roe can be got from local fishmongers. Avoid the supermarkets.

I generally far prefer the taste of grassfed bone-marrow or raw mutton fat for my fat-sources. I usually find the taste of raw suet a bit  bland, but, on some occasions, I've had the opportunity to get hold of a really high-quality source and it tasted quite good. I also, sometimes, find it best to let the suet age until it's covered in a greeny-brown mould on the surface. It tastes a bit like a pongy raw cheese, then.
If you can get hold of a decent source of pasture-fed pork then go for it, but it's pretty  rare as most pigs are deliberately fed on diets very high in grain(often 100%, according to some farmers I've spoken to!). Some farmers may allow their pigs to forage in natural areas(rather than boxed up in a pen), in which case they will have better nutrition - you'll just have to ask around.

Zero carb doesn't exist as there are  carbs in some animal foods, especially liver, oysters mussels etc. and traces of glycogen in muscle-meats etc. Even the zero-carbers seem to mention occasionally breaking their regime by an occasional rare eating of fruit etc. at social occasions.

Re stickies:- Yes, describing the different types of diets is important and such a mention should be put on the rawpaleodiet.com website and here as well.

Have a look at the child boards on the general discussion forum(re toxins in cooked foods threads etc.) They provide useful info for newbies.

Craig started this forum; why is he a guest? 

He had an alternative username created which he now uses.

So my question is, since a good many of us (perhaps all) here believe that at some point in human history the major dietary constituents were almost entirely of animal origin (not counting dairy or eggs) and there weren't enough calories from carbs to avoid protein poisoning so it must have been fat as the energy nutrient, how does that jive with grass fed animals not storing enough fat for that very purpose?

First of all, I'm highly sceptical of the notion that our ancestors never ate carbs. I mean they were opportunists, not interested in a "zero-carb" diet. It makes sense that they went in primarily for nutrient-denser animal foods, as herbivores and omnivores have to spend a huge amount of time on eating/searching for food if eating mostly plants. Also, I get extremely sceptical of the whole "rabbit-starvation" concept. I get the impression that lower levels of animal-fat are needed than what is recommended on zero-carb forums, in order to avoid rabbit-starvation.

I am actually surprised to see no new additions to rawpaleodiet.com.  When I turned the pretty-well established site over to Craig, and it was changed to a cms project, I thought for sure that there would be some good chunks to chew on in no time.  But nothing has been added by anyone since then.  It's the one place where a positive approach is guaranteed.  I'd recommend adding more to that and referencing to it more from wikipedia.  You know, reference our advent of cooking article somewhere.  Stuff like that.

I agree re adding more to that site, but I would prefer more people contributing, so as to add complexity. I have fixed a few grammar-details and have added a minor paragraph, here and there. I'll see about adding more - I'll stick to a target of 1 or 2 new things every fortnight.


. Searching for  "Wrangham cooking", for example, shows the rawpaleodiet.com article way up, so it's an excellent info-/resource site.I'm pretty much about to give up on Wikipedia - I've spent so much time trying to add useful (well-referenced) scientific info, but various thinly-disguised overly fanatical anti-rawists always try to sabotage my efforts. So, even though numerous attempts have been made to make it falsely seem, on the raw foodism wikipedia page, that Wrangham's views are a majority view, I can show the exact opposite, using more solid references than those wikipedia contributors.

As regards wikipedia, I will just have to wait until either the deletionists lose the battle against the inclusionists on Wikipedia, or  I will have to make an entry on sites such as google Knol which, unlike wikipedia, allow individual contributors to make it so that only they can edit a page. My first attempt didn't work re google knol as it was in faulty beta version, but I'll try again. In the meantime, I'll save an earlier version of the wikipedia page, for later use.

Someone posted to me the following question, claiming that he hasn't posted/registered yet(because he doesn't know how?). Anyway, I've posted my answer below at his request:-

Hi Tyler..Can you please post this question on the raw paleo forum as I am yet to become a member and cannot post. You do not have to post it on this site or e-mail me back. I will check for your posting on the "Raw Paleo Forum" as I have been following your posts  daily. Is it safe or beneficial to eat dirt to repopulate a severely damaged leaky gut with living fresh dirt? Has anyone done this? Wouldn't this be far better than store bought probiotics? Can others please give thier opinions on this?
"
If you don't mind, I'd also like to answer this question here, so others who don't frequent the raw forums can read this too:-

Dirt-eating has been a key aspect of some tribes:-

http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,525726,00.html


However, it should be noted that it's not "dirt" as such that they look for but edible clay-rich soil. It would be better for you to just buy any edible clay on the market as long as it's guaranteed not to be heated, in any way at all("sun-dried" edible french green clay is what I buy). I think(?) Aajonus recommmends against bentonite clay or is that azomite clay? Anyway, french-green clay is fine. I used to have 1 teasponnful a day(mixed with alkaline mineral-water), now I only have a table-spoonful of clay once a month, or so.
The clay is more useful re killing bad bacteria than repopulating the gut with bacteria, as such. Certainly, store-bought antibiotics are largely useless as they invariably contain far too few bacteria and generally  of the wrong kind(lactobacillus? etc.). You'd be better off getting hold of "EM"/Effective Microorganisms products,

http://www.eminfo.info/

 if you're new to raw diets. "High-meat" is also an option, but really only  once you've done 1 or 2 years on a raw animal food diet and are fuly used to the whole raw diet.

When I first started the diet, I did things slowly, starting with meats slightly aged for a couple of days (this wasn't just for the slight increase in bacterial-content, but also to soften them and save my teeth as they  had become extremely weakened due to past dairy-consumption. The myth that dairy builds strong bones and teeth is one of the biggest urban legends of the past century).


Re leaky gut:- Obviously, don't touch raw dairy or fermented grains or foods with chemicals, alcohol etc..
HTH,
RPG.

Thanks. It's always good to see more blogs/info-sites on raw or cooked Palaeolithic Diets.  I'll put your link in the forum-thread relating to rawpalaeodiet blogs/journals by individuals.