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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: New and Concerns
« Last post by a_real_man on May 09, 2019, 10:24:48 am »
I don't believe that the main difficulty in switching to all raw is detox. If you stick to simple foods like tuna, steak, liver and fruits I don't expect a strong reaction, and you'll be fed for a few days. IMO the difficulty is maintaining a fully raw diet in the long term because it is difficult a) logistically b) palate-wise c) to keep weight d) to get all the diverse foods you need. To solve a), b), c) and d) you will have to wrestle and problem solve until you can be fed and happy on a raw diet.
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Hot Topics / Re: Couple die of bubonic plague after eating raw marmot meat
« Last post by a_real_man on May 09, 2019, 10:06:57 am »
I was researching it last night and apparently, the only way that the bubonic plague is diagnosed is by the presence of this bacteria (yersinia) in body fluids.  They should take blood samples of the people who ate the wild rodent but didn't get bubonic plague. I bet they would find the bacteria in the people who didn't get sick as well.  Then that would knock back the theory of germ-induced disease.  I bet they didn't take any samples from the healthy people.  Why aren't they more thorough?

It also reminded me of something - I once read a chapter from a book called "Survival of the Sickest."  It said that most people of Western European descent developed a mutation that helped them survive the plague.  The mutation, however, results in a disease called hemochromatosis - this is excessive iron in the blood.  But somehow this disease helped Europeans survive the plague, so it is passed down to people today who are of Western European descent.  The ones who died from eating the wild meat that had the yersinia bacteria - did they have European ancestry?  Or another ancestry that didn't develop the mutation to help survive the plague?

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Mongolian food is largely based on cooked meat, mainly lamb, but also including yakmeat, beef, horsemeat and marmot ( aka groundhog)

This news was recently  released by the leading newsparer in the french Alps ( "le Dauphiné libéré" ),   an area where marmots are somewhat protected..... and plentiful, which probably explained why this newspaper decided to report on the subject.

Sorry you will have to translate the article from french ( or find another source in english ).

https://www.ledauphine.com/france-monde/2019/05/07/ils-meurent-de-la-peste-apres-avoir-mange-des-reins-de-marmotte-crus


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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: New and Concerns
« Last post by TylerDurden on May 09, 2019, 12:22:23 am »
It's not  a great explanation. While it is true that the human body has a limited ability to detox on its own, it does not have a limitless ability to detox. Plus, if the human body adapts to one type of toxin, it is highly likely that it develops weaknesses/lack of resources versus other things.
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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: New and Concerns
« Last post by surfsteve on May 08, 2019, 11:21:45 pm »
I feel that the body gets used to toxins and a poisonous diet and that when you go on a raw diet and then eat something cooked it is much more detrimental. The same is true of coffee. If I drink it every day all day long I can fall asleep easily right after drinking it but if I have a cup after not having had one for a while it will upset my stomach and keep me up all night. Smokers can also tolerate much higher doses of nicotine than non smokers. It's not that much different when it comes to raw and cooked foods. 
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Hot Topics / Dried natto tastes great!
« Last post by surfsteve on May 08, 2019, 10:58:13 pm »
I put my natto back into the dehydrator for another 10 hours and when it came out it tasted amazing.

It's kind of a pain to make. Soak beans for 24 hours. Pressure cook them. Cool them. Inoculate them. Culture them for another 24 hours and then dry them for 24 more hours and peel them off the wax paper...  I guess that's why it is so expensive to buy! Powdering them would be even one more step but the whole beans taste amazing and if I were making dressing I'd just be grinding them up in the food processor anyway...

I guess it's worth it. I ate every last one of them in one sitting. They would make an awesome food to take anywhere, where fresh natto is pretty much only eaten right out of the refrigerator. I got my spare pressure cooker/yogurt maker out and am making a double batch. I've made salad dressing with store bought dried natto and it is very good. Can't wait to try it with my own whole dried natto beans. I don't care for the dressing when it's made with fresh natto because it's too slimy. It also doesn't taste vinegary enough. With dried I can rehydrate the beans with vinegar instead of all that water!
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Hot Topics / Re: Couple die of bubonic plague after eating raw marmot meat
« Last post by smokeyquartz on May 08, 2019, 07:44:41 pm »
I was researching it last night and apparently, the only way that the bubonic plague is diagnosed is by the presence of this bacteria (yersinia) in body fluids.  They should take blood samples of the people who ate the wild rodent but didn't get bubonic plague. I bet they would find the bacteria in the people who didn't get sick as well.  Then that would knock back the theory of germ-induced disease.  I bet they didn't take any samples from the healthy people.  Why aren't they more thorough?

It also reminded me of something - I once read a chapter from a book called "Survival of the Sickest."  It said that most people of Western European descent developed a mutation that helped them survive the plague.  The mutation, however, results in a disease called hemochromatosis - this is excessive iron in the blood.  But somehow this disease helped Europeans survive the plague, so it is passed down to people today who are of Western European descent.  The ones who died from eating the wild meat that had the yersinia bacteria - did they have European ancestry?  Or another ancestry that didn't develop the mutation to help survive the plague?
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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: New and Concerns
« Last post by TylerDurden on May 08, 2019, 02:18:39 pm »
It's generally a bad idea to mix cooked and raw. It prevents detox.If you are ill, the best thing is to stick to at least 95%+  raw as much as possible until you become healthy. That way, you get healthier a lot faster, without your body constantly having to deal with incoming toxins from eating cooked foods. I have also noted that the longer one is on a RVAF diet, the more one starts to react to cooked foods. For example,  I would occasionally eat some compromise foods(sushi from a reputable Japanese shop) but, after 10 years on Rawpalaeo, I would vomit up the stuff if I ate more than a certain amount  of rice. Basically, the body over time recognises that the cooked food is a poison and therefore tries to get rid of it if you overdo it.
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Hot Topics / Re: Couple die of bubonic plague after eating raw marmot meat
« Last post by TylerDurden on May 08, 2019, 02:01:17 pm »
Tyler, what do you think of this?
Not sure. Admittedly, since those afflicted certainly ate mostly cooked otherwise, then they would be more vulnerable to infection given poor bacteria-levels in the gut etc. It's probably not an issue for RVAFers as domesticated meat is always checked in developed countries by vets so that infected meat does not reach the consumer. Even wild meats sold in shops have been vetted beforehand. I suppose if one is a RVAF-eating hunter who does not notice signs of infection on an animal or who primarily hunts rodents , then that might be a problem at some stage, but that's all rather unlikely.
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