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Raw Paleo Diet Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: miles on July 17, 2010, 08:28:37 pm
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Is anyone here interested in living in the wild?
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Is anyone here interested in living in the wild?
Are there wild and sexy paleo women in the wild?
Seriously, I had toyed with the idea of living near the shores of a clean remote beach like Palawan the last frontier where wild shoreline bounty is plentiful you never grow hungry.
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If we bring them there =D Or rather, they choose to come.
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What is "The Wild"?
If you're talking about a place where humans do not influence the landscape and where "Nature" rules, there are no such places. "The Wild" is a myth maintained primarily in the minds of well-to-do people in developed nations.
Where do you really want to live?
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Somewhere where I can live only by hunting/foraging, building anything I may need from what's around me. Where there is a large enough area, and enough animals. Not sure what sort of geography I'd prefer, perhaps can't be too picky about that anyway... Also, don't know what my genes are best suited for.
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Maybe Canada as there's big game like moose. You're only allowed to hunt in season though, so dunno what you'd do the rest of the time.
There's not so much game now as there was in the Paleolithic so living in the wild would be just as unnatural diet as anything else.
I'd like to buy a river in Africa and stock the area with hippos, crocodiles and all kinds of game. Then we could all live there.
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Do it!
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I love living in "the wild" or as close as it comes to it. Im an eagle scout so I regularly go to some wild places but living there long term...not all that realistic for me.
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Another alternative is to become a farmer.Farming is pretty wild 8)
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I'd like to buy a river in Africa and stock the area with hippos, crocodiles and all kinds of game. Then we could all live there.
Do you really naively believe that if such a river still exists in Africa or elsewhere, where it is indeed easy to make ones living on local game, man hasn't already settled there since long and done what you want to do there ?
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Another alternative is to become a farmer.Farming is pretty wild 8)
How does someone even become a farmer anyway? Just because, I've never actually heard of someone becoming a farmer unless their parents were.
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Do you really naively believe that if such a river still exists in Africa or elsewhere, where it is indeed easy to make ones living on local game, man hasn't already settled there since long and done what you want to do there ?
How about if we stocked up on naive instincto's in our paleo African game park and got some of those f... off Elephant guns and just went nuts!
You'd like that
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Would be more paleo to do it barehanded.
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Do you really naively believe that if such a river still exists in Africa or elsewhere, where it is indeed easy to make ones living on local game, man hasn't already settled there since long and done what you want to do there ?
Do you naively believe that they wouldn't sell it for a wad of cash? Anyway I was just fucking about, but I am considering buying land in the Phillipines or somewhere a bit later in life where raw food seems to be easy.
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Do you naively believe that they wouldn't sell it for a wad of cash? Anyway I was just fucking about, but I am considering buying land in the Phillipines or somewhere a bit later in life where raw food seems to be easy.
An alternative possibility if they won't sell it is as usual either to beat them or to join them. I do not advocate the first alternative but the second one seems attractive. Just marry one of their girls ;)
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How does someone even become a farmer anyway? Just because, I've never actually heard of someone becoming a farmer unless their parents were.
You buy land and break your ass working be it with crops or animal husbandry. It's not an easy life but it seems really rewarding.
If I had the money I'd buy dozens of acres in upstate New York and set up a farm myself. I'd love to get off the grid.
FWIW the farmer I buy my meat from used to work a 9-5 job down in Manhattan. He read "The Omnivore's Dilemma" and was taken by the the concept of rotational farming like Joel Salatin does down in Virginia. He bought a lot of land and set up his own farm. It can be done.
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How about if we stocked up on naive instincto's in our paleo African game park and got some of those f... off Elephant guns and just went nuts!
You'd like that
I'd like that indeed....
A minor trouble is that naive instinctos are usually a bit skinny :)
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I know a farmer who has a similar story -- used to work in industry, decided he had enough of it, bought some land, and started farming. Once I have enough money, I plan to do the same.
You buy land and break your ass working be it with crops or animal husbandry. It's not an easy life but it seems really rewarding.
If I had the money I'd buy dozens of acres in upstate New York and set up a farm myself. I'd love to get off the grid.
FWIW the farmer I buy my meat from used to work a 9-5 job down in Manhattan. He read "The Omnivore's Dilemma" and was taken by the the concept of rotational farming like Joel Salatin does down in Virginia. He bought a lot of land and set up his own farm. It can be done.
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What would you think would be the best environment for a white person to live wild in..? If one lives in a colder climate, they will need to make clothes(I think). So, since they've got this far in technology, people in colder environments would probably all be using fire. Having less mobility due to the clothes, I guess they'd all be using bow/arrow as well..? I guess people would gradually make make technological advances as they spread into colder places, would it be impractical to skimp on any of them in a colder environment? Would it be better to live somewhere warmer where you could get by with less technology, without fire, clothes(maybe just basic hides for night times/resting, but not for when active), range-weapons..?
I found a guy who is going to first practise in the UK.. Galloway Forest Park I think, and then go to Bialowieza Forest. I feel like I might prefer to be in an environment where I may be less reliant on technology(still talking 'primitive' technology..), and I'd think in those cold places that I would be. But then, I don't know if that's what my genes would be best suited to anyway... Might be nice to be somewhere where humans could practically live and hunt without any tools or weapons, a place where, although one would gradually add to their arsenal/tool-kit, they could start with nothing, nor any detailed knowledge of how to make these things, and get by fine(though just better when they make advances by themselves), just going on instincts and sense.
I was wondering how the places I mentioned might compare to warmer environments with semi-wilderness such as: Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, USA,(anywhere else) etc.. As well as the relative difficulty in getting to these places >.>
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I would absolutely LOVE to live in the wild.. I have always been obsessed with (fictional)books about people living in the wild ever since I was in elementary school, mostly from reading Jean Craighead George's books Julie of the Wolves (about an inuit girl who becomes lost on the arctic tundra and runs into a pack of Wolves whom she befriends and who help her to survive, which is also where my love of Wolves came about) and My Side of the Mountain (about a boy who runs away from his city life to live on the side of a foresty mountain owned by a relative, where he survives in a purely wild environment).
Ever since reading those books, or perhaps even before I don't remember, I have been fascinated with living in the Wild and surviving off the land as nature intended.. I have even sometimes wished for the "stranded on an island uninhabited by humans and being forced to find out a way to survive in nature" type scenario to happen to me.
Being able to live in the Wild, for me, would be a dream come true.
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Is it ok to eat raw meat that flies have lain eggs in, or even that has maggots? Or can the maggots/eggs get stuck in the wrong places, or do they have chemicals to stop themselves being eaten? How fast will flies come to meat?
I just want to know, if someone was living in the wild in a very small group, what the best way to eat raw is, and as fresh/unprocessed as possible, taking all factors in.
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I didn't like the taste of either the maggots or the eggs they came from. perhaps it was just general squeamishness rather than the taste itself.
I'm sure maggots might be fine to eat. In pre-cooking times, we certainly ate maggot-infested raw meats all the time.
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I hope sometime in the future to be able to eat alot of my meat fresh killed, probably birds and squirrels and and things like that, which would be perfect for single meals.
At the same time I would be living near my butcher shop and be able to buy the large mammal meat from them. I'll admit I don't think I will ever be able to kill and butcher a cow myself.
I've eaten maggot eggs before, the texture is a little gross in the mouth.
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Living in the wild would be great!
I would be interested in buying some land and house in the country with some raw paleo people.
And hunt in during every season and gather wild plants. Closes way to do it legally you know. I guess it goes back to community farm for income though. Living in the wild with no bills seems pretty stress free and awesome though.
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Well I might go live in the wild, want to come?
Woaaah in 25 days I will have spent one year registered on this forum.
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Well I might go live in the wild, want to come?
Woaaah in 25 days I will have spent one year registered on this forum.
Haha. I would actually. ;) But seriously I think it would be smart to do it legally. Have some land raise animals to sell. Shoot, all are food could come from hunting/gathering as long as we hunt every kind of animal and during every season. We could dry and freeze meat.
What geographical "race" of humans do you think you belong to Miles? You mentioned you would like to live in a place suited to your genes. My father ancestors originate somewhere in the Mediterranean Area or Turkey I think. Even though he stays in Jordan now. I say that because many people who live in Jordan wear cloth clothes to protect from the sun which I don't think is too natural of clothing. My mom is mainly German I think, or a mixed between many geographical races in Europe. I feel pretty good in a temperate climate.
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I think I'd be best suited to the same as you Sully, a temperate climate. Somewhere level with Semi-Southern Europe, I think I'd prefer. What you're talking about though Sully, is in ten years, once you've earned enough money from work, right? You're not going to do that now are you, within months? I couldn't wait years...
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I can never understand how so many people prefer warmer climes. For me, the perfect environment would be either Iceland or the mountains in Siberia, say. All lovely and cold, with one feeling more active and alert due to the need to maintain body temperature etc. Contrast this with my times in hot climates where I always feel so sluggish.
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I agree with you Tyler, warm/hot weather always has me feeling sleepy and sluggish, I'd prefer to live somewhere cooler, and I've always wanted to visit Alaska because Arctic Wolves are my favourite and I've always wanted to try Caribou.
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Yes, the summer in Wisconsin is enough warm for me!
Miles
I know it will take years. But if raw paleo people meet up and possibly live close or share apartments in the meantime while planning for the farm. It will make the wait much more bearable. ;)
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I think having 4 seasons would be ideal. Always stuck in Winter or Summer would get boring.
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I think having 4 seasons would be ideal. Always stuck in Winter or Summer would get boring.
I agree. For me personally.
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I am making a website about wild foods. It's through a helper website weebly and it is free. ;)
http://wildfoods.weebly.com/