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Raw Paleo Diet Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: tests on June 04, 2013, 01:07:07 pm
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Most fruits give me acne, but my body seems to crave them a lot. Don't know if I should just stop eating fruits (Which is really really difficult) or only consume certain ones. I typically consume bananas, blackberries, bluberries, strawberries
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Just keep on trying different fruits to see which trigger the acne. If all do so, then try raw veg instead.
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Most fruits give me acne, but my body seems to crave them a lot. Don't know if I should just stop eating fruits (Which is really really difficult) or only consume certain ones. I typically consume bananas, blackberries, bluberries, strawberries
Are you sure about that? I have never heard of such an issue. Aren't skin issues related to dairy products?
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One thing I would consider as a trigger for pimples: overeating fruits / sugar. Maybe not the fruits are your real problem but the amount of fruits.
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If you are consuming factory bananas, such as cavendish, you must know they are full of chemicals and herbicides and pesticides and everything they can pump into them.
You may be suffering from factory banana poisoning.
See this chemical company selling to banana factory farms in our country jocanima dot com
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Too much fruit is the only thing that makes my acne flare up.
Lots of raw dairy prevents it. I often get a bit of acne when I run out of dairy for a few days as well.
I ouldnt recommend raw veg to anyone though. The juice perhaps but not regularly eating veggies.
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Too much fruit is the only thing that makes my acne flare up.
Lots of raw dairy prevents it. I often get a bit of acne when I run out of dairy for a few days as well.
I ouldnt recommend raw veg to anyone though. The juice perhaps but not regularly eating veggies.
SVRN, how does lots of raw dairy prevent it? That is a new one to me... most people break out from dairy (also which exact dairy products do you consume??)
Also, why do you not recommend eating raw veg regularly? What about cooked vegetables?
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If you are consuming factory bananas, such as cavendish, you must know they are full of chemicals and herbicides and pesticides and everything they can pump into them.
You may be suffering from factory banana poisoning.
See this chemical company selling to banana factory farms in out country jocanima dot com
which banana variety should I be consuming then??
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Just keep on trying different fruits to see which trigger the acne. If all do so, then try raw veg instead.
I don't see anything wrong with raw vegetables.
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which banana variety should I be consuming then??
What bananas can you get in your area? Anything other than Cavendish is possibly better. Your results will be the determining factor in whether a different variety is good for you. Best place to look is in ethnic markets, if you have them in your area.
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What bananas can you get in your area? Anything other than Cavendish is possibly better. Your results will be the determining factor in whether a different variety is good for you. Best place to look is in ethnic markets, if you have them in your area.
I do have ethnic markets
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What bananas can you get in your area? Anything other than Cavendish is possibly better. Your results will be the determining factor in whether a different variety is good for you. Best place to look is in ethnic markets, if you have them in your area.
Which ones would you reccomend (other than cavendish)?
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So I called some ethnic markets and this is what they carry:
baby bananas, organic bananas, plantains, yellow plantains
No one knows the names of these bananas though. Most are clueless
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I don't see anything wrong with raw vegetables.
Me too. What's the issue?
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I would quit eating bananas altogether. They are the most likely culprit for your acne. Too much sugar in them.
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Me too. What's the issue?
Regular consumption of raw veggies builds up anti-nutrients in your system. Plus the fiber is difficult to digest. Plus I believe the gut flora seems to be happier with bacteria from meat rather than veggies, as shown by Lex's colonoscopy and others' experiences with digestive issues on this forum.
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Me too. What's the issue?
Anti-Nutrients in vegetables?
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Regular consumption of raw veggies builds up anti-nutrients in your system. Plus the fiber is difficult to digest. Plus I believe the gut flora seems to be happier with bacteria from meat rather than veggies, as shown by Lex's colonoscopy and others' experiences with digestive issues on this forum.
what about cooked veggies? Also dr.dr, what is your opinion on the consumption fats other than animal fat?
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Are you eating organic or non-organic. I was told many years ago to avoid all non-organic fresh fruit as they are sprayed with I think ethyline gas or something to ripen them, which causes them to produce the same toxin found in latex but at much higher levels. Quit eating non-organic tomatoes, bananas, strawberries and others and my acne cleared up! It was also believed to have been a possible cause of a tumor that I had for 9 years.
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what about cooked veggies? Also dr.dr, what is your opinion on the consumption fats other than animal fat?
IMO, cooked veggies are worse. There are enough studies to show that cooked destroys the enzymes and greatly limits bioavailability in proportion to the amount its cooked. I haven't cooked my veggies in over a year and recently stopped consuming them altogether, I feel less drained and less hungry. They are taxing to digest.
I don't really think plant fats are beneficial. I ate unrefined organic but heated nutova coconut oil for the past year and haven't seen a change in anything, possibly even halting my weight loss.
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Regular consumption of raw veggies builds up anti-nutrients in your system. Plus the fiber is difficult to digest. Plus I believe the gut flora seems to be happier with bacteria from meat rather than veggies, as shown by Lex's colonoscopy and others' experiences with digestive issues on this forum.
exactly this.
veggies feel like they really sit in my gut.
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Are you eating organic or non-organic. I was told many years ago to avoid all non-organic fresh fruit as they are sprayed with I think ethyline gas or something to ripen them, which causes them to produce the same toxin found in latex but at much higher levels. Quit eating non-organic tomatoes, bananas, strawberries and others and my acne cleared up! It was also believed to have been a possible cause of a tumor that I had for 9 years.
organic veggies but non-organic fruits. Maybe that is why.
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Anti-Nutrients in vegetables?
Aren't anti-nutrients a problem of grains, beans, legumes and potatoes. I don't thinc that e.g. a fennel (as long as its taste is pleasant) is harmful?!
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http://www.rawpaleodietforum.com/important-info-for-newbies/info-on-antinutrients/ (http://www.rawpaleodietforum.com/important-info-for-newbies/info-on-antinutrients/)
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organic veggies but non-organic fruits. Maybe that is why.
I would say based on my experience almost certainly. Fresh non-organic strait from the farm won't have that same problem and they probably use less chemicals than store fruit, but even that is definitely far less than ideal.
Aren't anti-nutrients a problem of grains, beans, legumes and potatoes. I don't thinc that e.g. a fennel (as long as its taste is pleasant) is harmful?!
I think that the carrot family, which includes fennel, cilantro and parsley are among the least harmful and most beneficial of vegetables.
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If you are consuming factory bananas, such as cavendish, you must know they are full of chemicals and herbicides and pesticides and everything they can pump into them.
even organic ones?
SVRN, how does lots of raw dairy prevent it? That is a new one to me... most people break out from dairy (also which exact dairy products do you consume??)
same question to SVRN
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raw dairy prevents it because the more fat I eat and the less carbs I eat the better your skin will be. Too much carbs can cause acne to flare up for me among many other problems.
I only say dairy because its much easier to consume lots of fat in the form of raw dairy than raw animal fat. If I dont hav dairy I just dont eat nearly as much fat.
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even organic ones?
same question
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raw dairy prevents it because the more fat I eat and the less carbs I eat the better your skin will be. Too much carbs can cause acne to flare up for me among many other problems.
I only say dairy because its much easier to consume lots of fat in the form of raw dairy than raw animal fat. If I dont hav dairy I just dont eat nearly as much fat.
Interesting. What about coconut oil, olive oil, avocados, and pasteurized dairy fat?
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plant fats dont work well for me like animal fats.
any heated food will cause problems so no pasteurized dairy
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Organic / wild bananas, tree ripened bananas are great.
These are what I hunt for.
Lots of fruit when in season are ideal to consume. And there are all season fruits too.
Papaya, Pineapples, Durians, Dragon Fruit, Jack fruit, lemons, calamansi, Guava, rambutan, lanzones, duhat, etc.
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Organic / wild bananas, tree ripened bananas are great.
These are what I hunt for.
Lots of fruit when in season are ideal to consume. And there are all season fruits too.
Papaya, Pineapples, Durians, Dragon Fruit, Jack fruit, lemons, calamansi, Guava, rambutan, lanzones, duhat, etc.
I have tried googling the seasons of fruits, but always run across conflicting information
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plant fats dont work well for me like animal fats.
any heated food will cause problems so no pasteurized dairy
I gotta admit, animal fats such as beef tallow and suet are not appealing to me at all (my body seems to reject these). I seem to like lard though and Butter is something I could eat TONS of. I could probably finish 10-12 oz of butter in a day (my favorite seems to be goat butter). My body also seems to crave olive oil (now that I am consuming actual non-rancid olive oil).
When you say that plant fats don't work well for you... do you mean they cause you problems, or just are not as ideal as animal fats?
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I have tried googling the seasons of fruits, but always run across conflicting information
GS is in the Philippines - his seasons and fruit availability are local to him.
Considering that there are early, middle, and late ripening varieties of many fruits, learn what's available when in your area, but be prepared to see a range of maturity dates.
If you get something out of season, it probably comes from another country, was picked very underripe, and warehoused for a while in cold rooms to delay maturity. Not ideal.
Down there in Diamond Bar, the weather is outstanding for many fruits. It's still strawberry season. Around this time, start looking for apricots, figs, avocados. After that, there should be boysenberries, peaches, cherries, pomegranates. Eventually, you'll see pears from Mendocino County, apples from Washington, and persimmons. Try smaller, local "ethnic" markets for "backyard produce" or farmers markets and see who is growing what locally. Citrus is year 'round.
Here's another tip: if you know any church people with ties in Utah, find out if their church ladies group buys flats of fruit direct from Utah in large quantities - you can get in on the deal if you have that connection.
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Eve, your post makes me miss the fruit of southern California. Cherimoya, white sapote, tree-ripe Fuerte and Bacon avocados, mangos, durian from Star 99 market, etc., etc.. ESPECIALLY the cherimoyas. Sadly, I haven't been able to get cherimoyas here in VA this year, and they are kind of expensive to mail order.
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Haas avocados for me! My neighbors here in San Jose have the best avocado I've ever tasted. It is not a commercial variety that I can readily identify. The backyard varieties of many fruits are worth finding. People with fruit trees sometimes stress over how to get rid of all their fruit. I forgot to mention loquats. My son and toddler-grandson post the greatest dad-and-me loquat-eating pics.
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Cherimoya was the most delicious plant I have ever eaten and also the most expensive. Iv only seen it here in nyc once and it was absurdly expensive but I defenitly felt great after eating a couple.
perhaps cherimoyas are less artificially bred since they are so rare.
my main fruits are pineapple papaya cherries berries always organic.
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Cherimoya was the most delicious plant I have ever eaten and also the most expensive. Iv only seen it here in nyc once and it was absurdly expensive but I defenitly felt great after eating a couple.
perhaps cherimoyas are less artificially bred since they are so rare.
my main fruits are pineapple papaya cherries berries always organic.
Cherimoya are higher in minerals than most fruits. That's another reason I love them.
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Aha! Thanks for that info, Cherimoya. That may help explain why I handle cherimoyas better than most fruits (for example, they don't seem to trigger my acne), as mineral deficiency seems to be one of the legacies I acquired from SAD, especially from gluten-foods. Luckily, it's been gradually getting better.
Oooo, I see that cherimoyas have some significant B vitamin content too. That's another nutrient area I suspect I need help with but have never gotten tested. Too bad cherimoyas are only occasionally sold at one local supermarket, though it helps keep me from overspending on them.
Cherimoyas are definitely one of my favorite foods, especially thoroughly bletted. I think I like them about equally to my other fruit fave--fresh wild Maine blueberries--but I bet if I lived in a tropical climate and could get cherimoyas that were tree-ripened in their native habitat I would like them even better.
I hear that the related and similar-looking soursop is also tasty. Have you tried that?
Just keep on trying different fruits to see which trigger the acne. If all do so, then try raw veg instead.
Sage advice. That's what helped me most, and the overall results didn't fit completely with any of the advice I'd seen. Most fruits trigger acne for me in even seemingly reasonable quantities, but not all (thank heavens :D ), and I'd rarely or never seen recommendations re: some of the fruits/berries that worked best for me. Our human-Cherimoya and this forum and a raw vegan forum were helpful clues, as I might never have tried cherimoyas otherwise. I seem to be only one of a handful of people in this state who even know what cherimoyas are. ;D
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I hear that the related and similar-looking soursop is also tasty. Have you tried that?
In Costa Rica this is called guanabana, and it is generally too sour to be eaten out of hand. According to wiki, there are varieties that are sweeter and can be eaten fresh/raw, but I'm not had any.
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Is the Costa Rican variety more sour than common lemons?
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Is the Costa Rican variety more sour than common lemons?
No, but you won't find yourself able to eat more than a few bites. And they're generally large, like the size of 3 or 4 large cherimoyas. They are generally used to flavor smoothies, ice cream, etc..