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Title: Schizophrenia
Post by: raw on November 29, 2012, 01:10:56 am
Schizophrenia (/?sk?ts??fr?ni?/ or /?sk?ts??fri?ni?/) is a mental disorder characterized by a breakdown of thought processes and by poor emotional responsiveness.[1] Common symptoms include auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions, or disorganized speech and thinking, and it is accompanied by significant social or occupational dysfunction. The onset of symptoms typically occurs in young adulthood.

Early environment, neurobiology, and psychological and social processes or might be genetics are the important contributory factors; some recreational and prescription drugs appear to cause or worsen symptoms. Current research is focused on the role of neurobiology, although no single isolated organic cause has been found. The many possible combinations of symptoms have triggered debate about whether the diagnosis represents a single disorder or a number of discrete syndromes. Despite the etymology of the term from the Greek roots skhizein (???????, "to split") and phr?n, phren- (????, ????-; "mind"), schizophrenia does not imply a "split personality", or "multiple personality disorder" (which is known these days as dissociative identity disorder)—a condition with which it is often confused in public perception.[3] Rather, the term means a "splitting of mental functions", because of the symptomatic presentation of the illness.

Unfortunately , in developed country like USA, the mainstay of treatment is antipsychotic medication, which primarily suppresses dopamine (and sometimes serotonin) receptor activity. THOSE DRUGS NEVER WORK. Diet, meditation, simple lifestyle, Psychotherapy and vocational and social rehabilitation are also important in treatment. And these process show the higher rate of complete healing from schizophrenia. In more serious cases—where there is risk to self and others—involuntary hospitalization may be necessary (but we all know that it is always a bad idea to admit in hospitals), although hospital stays are now shorter and less frequent than they once were.[4]

The disorder is thought mainly to affect cognition, but it also usually contributes to chronic problems with behavior and emotion. People with schizophrenia are likely to have additional (comorbid) conditions, including major depression and anxiety disorders; the lifetime occurrence of substance abuse is almost 50%.[5] Social problems, such as long-term unemployment, poverty, and homelessness are common. The average life expectancy of people with the disorder is 12 to 30 years less than those without, the result of increased physical health problems and a higher suicide rate (about 5%).[2

Please, share ur thoughts and experiences and the possible cure of schizophrenia  in this posting. Thanks.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 29, 2012, 01:19:50 am
Look into cat parasites http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1635536 (http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1635536)

See a beam ray specialist.  Do parasite cleanses.

Look into Willy's Baggie I and II
http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1379382 (http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1379382)

Look into minimizing EMFs.
Measure EMFs in the home, where the patient sits, sleeps, eats, hangs out.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: raw on November 29, 2012, 01:38:48 am
GS, ur middle post  would be #1http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1379382 treatment   and then come other two. For convenience, I m putting this post here

A better natural answer to correct depressive, bipolar, and schizophrenic symptoms than has ever been discovered thus far has recently been found.

As a result of varying degrees of contribution from three laypersons, a powerful and amazingly fast-acting “natural chemical answer” in which to resolve the schizophrenic (and schizoaffective) symptoms of “hearing voices”, hallucinations, and depression HAS FINALLY BEEN FOUND. This occurred between mid-November 2008 and early March 2009.

I, Allen Darman, am one of the laypersons referred to in the above.

I should get the credit for knowing what to put in “Willy’s Baggie” (and now “Willy’s Baggie II) as a result of my own personal experience with using a wide range of nutritional and natural supplements beginning in September 1997.

My son William (“Willy”) Darman, whom first came up with the idea of “Willy’s Baggies” of supplements in July 2004, and now realizes that “Willy’s Baggie II” is much better than our original formula, is another person that should share in the credit of how to resolve schizophrenia naturally.

My son Willy should get this credit due to the idea that he had in July 2004 of combining a very wide range of nutritional and natural supplements together and then “taking them all at once”. I would have never done things this way. Willy “hit a home run for the entire world” when he insisted on using this supplement approach. Without this original idea of his, “nothing would have happened”. Willy clearly invented what I call “Willy’s Baggie”, and he should be given credit for this. (Note: “Willy’s Baggie II” has replaced this original baggie.)

An anonymous man in Ohio has taken about fifty “Willy’s Baggies” of varying ingredients and broad based amino acid content since November 2008. He is the third person involved in cracking the mystery of how to properly treat schizophrenia for the world. (I do not feel comfortable naming this man without his notarized written permission. I have suggested that if he wants to go public with who he is and what has happened to him that he go on YouTube and tell his story to the world.)

This man discovered that fully overcoming the schizophrenic symptoms of “hearing voices” and “seeing things” (hallucinations) can be readily achieved simply by the use of a wide range of nutritional and natural supplements. Such symptoms can be resolved within a matter of hours to a matter of days, using no medication whatsoever; despite the fact such symptoms may have been quite severe. This man should get credit for these discoveries. (Without his input on these topics of what helped him, “by how much”, and “how fast it took for such help to fully correct his symptoms”, I would not have yet known what I needed to know in order to write this blog.)

This man also discovered that substantially higher broad based amino acid dosages than that contained in Willy’s original baggie were needed in order to achieve significantly better and much faster acting therapeutic results. He feels that roughly forty (40) to fifty (50) grams a day overall of “free form amino acid component” is the right neighborhood in which to achieve the best therapeutic results.

This man has essentially told me that he feels that if he has “Willy’s Baggie II” in a forty to fifty gram dosage range to take on a daily basis he will never need any psychotropic medication to control his “hearing voices”, “seeing things”, and depressive symptoms for the rest of his life. He has also had VERY substantial success in fully controlling his symptoms while taking “Willy’s Baggie II” with a free form amino acid loading that was only about twenty-five grams or so.

This man’s discovery of higher amino acid need in the forty (40) to fifty (50) gram range is essentially a re-discovery. Over nine years ago I discovered that about fifty (50) grams a day of broad based free form amino acids taken on a daily basis was CRITICAL to the proper resolution of a state of chronic and serious depression in myself. I also realized over nine years ago that this need for high dosages of balanced broad based free form amino acids in the fifty (50) gram range applied to tens of millions of other depressed persons, and not just myself. At this point in time I did not realize that this kind of balanced broad based free form amino acid dosage taken on a daily basis was THE CRITICAL MISSING KEY to properly resolving schizophrenic symptoms as well. Over the years, I began to suspect such. AS OF MID-JANUARY 2009 I KNEW FOR A FACT THAT THIS SUSPICION WAS “DEAD ON THE MONEY”.

The natural chemical answer that we three persons have co-discovered to treat schizophrenic symptoms involves the use of NO MEDICATION WHATSOEVER.

The natural chemical answer that we have co-discovered MAKES ALL ANTI-PSYCHOTIC MEDICATION OBSOLETE.

The natural chemical answer that we have co-discovered ALSO MAKES ALL ANTIDEPRESSANT MEDICATION OBSOLETE as well.

The natural chemical answer that we have found also heals much more than schizophrenia and depression. It heals bipolar disorder and many other “psychiatric labels” as well. It may heal, or greatly help to heal, illnesses with names such as alcoholism, MS, fibromyalgia, cocaine, and heroin addiction as well.

Willy’s Baggie II may be looked at AS THE MOST IMPORTANT HEALTH DISCOVERY IN HUMAN HISTORY SOME DAY. (There is no doubt about this in my mind.) It is far bigger than the discovery of antibiotics. (This assumes that Big Pharma does not successfully bribe lawmakers in the U.S. such that “critical healing nutritional supplements are taken away from us”.)

As rough as it is (it could easily be improved), “Willy’s Baggie II” is my best current rendition of what a broad based supplement regime for depression, bipolar disorder, and schizophrenia should be. (Admittedly, “Willy’s Baggie II” will continue to improve over time, just as Willy’s original baggie did.)

A number of other persons have taken “Willy’s Baggies” since they were first invented besides us three persons as well. To each and every one of you that did this, I wish to say “I thank you from the bottom of my heart”. I learned something of significance from every one of you. You all should get credit some day for what you did to help me develop critical health knowledge for the entire world, regardless of how many baggies that you took after “that first one”, or whether they worked out for you or not. (Some people that failed on Willy’s baggies needed some “gut work” and/or “diet work” for Willy’s baggies to work. In addition to this, earlier versions of Willy’s baggies were not nearly as good therapeutically as Willy’s Baggie II is.)

Conclusion

Not recognizing the need in those with severe psychiatric symptoms for balanced broad based free form amino acid supplementation in the forty to fifty gram range (about) is destined "to hang conventional medicine" in "the court of public opinion". How could something this biologically obvious have been ignored for so long?

Not recognizing the need in those with severe psychiatric symptoms for balanced broad based free form amino acid supplementation in the forty to fifty gram range (about) is destined to topple drug-oriented medicine some day.

The general public will not stand for the fact that depression, bipolar disorder, and schizophrenia could ALL HAVE BEEN CURED, IF ONLY THE BIOLOGICALLY OBVIOUS WAS ADDRESSED... instead of the prescription of drugs, drugs, and more drugs... simply for the sake of the money being made. Not recognizing the need in those with severe psychiatric symptoms for balanced broad based free form amino acid supplementation in the forty to fifty gram range (about) is also the reason that a great deal of alternative medical knowledge is both erroneous and obsolete as well. (A good deal of pre-existing alternative medical knowledge was erroneous and obsolete nine years ago, as a result of what I had self-discovered about how to treat a state of depression properly.)

Alternative medicine has defined a number of natural chemical answers for schizophrenia over the years. Two doctors that were involved in this were Dr. Abram Hoffer (now retired), and Dr. William Walsh. As of March 2009, the natural chemical answers that Dr. Abram Hoffer and Dr. William Walsh have found in which to treat schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and depression are obsolete. (Only parts of these two doctors answers are not obsolete. On the key topic of what to supplement with their answers are obsolete.)

Older medical truth, both conventional and alternative, may hold up quite a bit longer. New medical truths of any sort traditionally take decades to replace older ones. Such may be the case here.

Regardless of any delay involved, it is my belief that the discovery of "Willy's Baggie II" most certainly means that Big Pharma, as we know it today, IS DOOMED.

Allen Darman
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: LePatron7 on November 29, 2012, 01:52:16 am
I take large doses of niacin, b complex, and vitamin C. it's by far the most effective treatment I've ever used.

I went from 1500 to 500 mg of one med, then got off it. and another 1 I take, went from 120 to 40 mg. all before even starting the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, or eating raw animal foods.

I also tried a raw animal food diet without any supplements, and within 2 months I was Baker acted.

I continued on a raw animal foods for sometime without supplements, and never fully recovered.

when I went back on the supplements, I got noticeably better rapidly.

I now take all the suggested supplements by Dr. Abram Hoffer, and eat some raw animal foods, but mostly the standard American diet. and I'm doing great.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: raw on November 29, 2012, 01:58:47 am
 DaBoss88, I really impress with ur suggestion that u have given to Grithnir. Now he is almost out of all his drugs after consuming over 7 years and very motivated to follow RPD
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 29, 2012, 02:00:56 am
The amino acid thing gives me the impression that you might like to try Inger's blendered fish heads.

Try also bone broths http://www.realbonebroth.com/ (http://www.realbonebroth.com/)
We make a good amount of bone broth at home for my kids lately.
Lately I did http://www.myhealthblog.org/2012/11/27/leaky-gut-treatment-with-cooked-gelatinous-beef-soup-stock/ (http://www.myhealthblog.org/2012/11/27/leaky-gut-treatment-with-cooked-gelatinous-beef-soup-stock/)
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: raw on November 29, 2012, 02:04:02 am
For schizophrenics, suppliments work fast, 'cause, if schizophrenia gets into a person for biological reason, then that person probably severely suffers of malnutrition.  RPD could work only many years after consuming RPD where taking supplementations are not a good idea, but sure it does have a magic for schizophrenics people.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: raw on November 29, 2012, 02:06:39 am
GS, I also think the world famous (of course in RPD forum)  Inger's blendered fish heads
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: LePatron7 on November 29, 2012, 02:08:23 am
DaBoss88, I really impress with ur suggestion that u have given to Grithnir. Now he is almost out of all his drugs after consuming over 7 years and very motivated to follow RPD

that makes me really happy. it's rare to find people with schizophrenia who want to help themselves. ask him to update the forum with his progress, and possibly consider making a journal so we can track his progress.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: LePatron7 on November 29, 2012, 02:11:27 am
For schizophrenics, suppliments work fast, 'cause, if schizophrenia gets into a person for biological reason, then that person probably severely suffers of malnutrition.  RPD could work only many years after consuming RPD where taking supplementations are not a good idea, but sure it does have a magic for schizophrenics people.

I disagree. I think the niacin, b complex and vitamin C should be stayed on indefinitely.

however the multivitamin, and other general health supplements probably could be discontinued with no problems once on a very nourishing diet, like RPD.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 29, 2012, 02:27:57 am
Daboss, have you tried comparing the effects of niacin vs cayenne tinctures?
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: raw on November 29, 2012, 02:28:55 am
I disagree. I think the niacin, b complex and vitamin C should be stayed on indefinitely.

however the multivitamin, and other general health supplements probably could be discontinued with no problems once on a very nourishing diet, like RPD
I agree 100%
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: LePatron7 on November 29, 2012, 02:43:36 am
Daboss, have you tried comparing the effects of niacin vs cayenne tinctures?

I haven't tried cayennr tinctures, but I doubt it compares to the effectiveness of Dr Hoffers vitamin therapy based on my results and those of Dr Hoffers double blind placebo controlled studies.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: raw on November 29, 2012, 03:09:42 am
i also know The Learning Program, and very effective sound therapy
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: raw on November 29, 2012, 03:11:03 am
Rife treatment can change/fix the pineal gland for schizophenics?
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: LePatron7 on November 29, 2012, 04:39:13 am
http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Schizophrenia-Complementary-Vitamin-Treatments/dp/1897025084 (http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Schizophrenia-Complementary-Vitamin-Treatments/dp/1897025084)
^ Dr. Abram Hoffer's book "Healing Schizophrenia: Complementary Vitamin & Drug Treatments." A must read for all schizophrenics and those caring for schizophrenics.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: LePatron7 on November 29, 2012, 05:07:58 am
Besides the supplements recommended by Dr. Abram Hoffer (niacin, b complex, vitamin c), there are several things that a healthy, well balanced variety of RPD foods will provide to help schizophrenia.

Omega 3's (fish fats) - RPD with a variety of fatty fish included regularly provides lots of brain-healthy omega 3's EPA and DHA in their unadulterated (unheated) state.

http://www.schizophrenia.com/treatments.php#epa (http://www.schizophrenia.com/treatments.php#epa)

Avoiding gluten - also shows benefits for schizophrenics. A raw diet of Specific Carbohydrate Diet legal foods effectively eliminates gluten.

http://www.schizophrenia.com/treatments.php#gluten (http://www.schizophrenia.com/treatments.php#gluten)

At the same time the site is ANTI-NIACIN THERAPY FOR SCHIZOPHRENICS - which I highly disagree with.

http://www.schizophrenia.com/treatments.php#niacin (http://www.schizophrenia.com/treatments.php#niacin)

There's also the Specific Carbohydrate Diet - a diet which treats autism effectively in many cases.

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/p/scd-autism/ (http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/p/scd-autism/)

The SCD (short for Specific Carbohydrate Diet) is easily tailored to a fully raw diet. Just seek out high quality, untainted (no natural flavors, preservatives, etc.) animal foods, all of which are SCD legal. And couple them with SCD-legal only carbohydrates (besides the cooked ones).

SCD Legal/Illegal list - http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/legal/listing/ (http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/legal/listing/)

The premise of the SCD diet is that it eliminates foods that require complex digestive processes to break them down (complex carbs/polysacharides). While only allowing simples carbohydrates (glucose, fructose, etc.), which are easily absorbed.

Since the carbohydrates are easily absorbed, it leaves little nutrition for gut microbes. Raw-SCD takes it a step further by eliminating difficult to digest COOKED meats (and other cooked foods). While also providing probiotic bacteria in every meat meal.

High meat is the equivalent of the SCD-legal yogurt which undergoes a 24-27 hour fermentation process to eliminate all the lactose. Both high meat and 24 hours yogurt are high in bacteria, but from a "natural" perspective, high meat is much more natural.

There's also the GAPS (Gut and Psychology Syndrome Diet) - this diet is based on the specific carbohydrate diet, however there's emphasis on Weston Price's view on healthy animals. The maker of this diet theorizes that all mental illnesses are similar, and caused by similar problems. She believes a healthy, nourishing diet restores balances and improves many people's mental illnesses.

http://gapsdiet.com/ (http://gapsdiet.com/)

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There are many benefits to balancing the gut flora - which Raw-SCD accomplishes.

http://www.microbialinfluence.com/ (http://www.microbialinfluence.com/)

"We have collected many research articles to show that the toxins found in microorganisms play an important role in the suspected causes of ASD, in particular, lipopolysaccharide ( LPS) the bacterial toxins from gram negative bacteria that inhabit the guts of autistic children. LPS toxicity works synergistically with mercury and other heavy metal poisonings to expand damage. These heavy metals increase harm from LPS.[1] In addition, LPS decreases glutathione levels making it even more difficult for the body to detoxify heavy metals."

"LPS induces a depressive syndrome, characterized by anhedonia, anorexia, body weight loss, and reduced locomotor, exploratory, and social behavior. This result has been replicated so many times by different research studies that the names, "Sickness Behavior" and "Endotoxemia" are now applied to this condition."

"LPS also renders toxins from Candida Albicans more damaging.[4] The poisonous effects of LPS are so potent that they produce symptoms of autism even without the help of Candida Albicans and heavy metals. All collected experiments on the following website involve laboratory mice injected with only LPS and exhibiting the same symptoms as those in ASD."

There are numerous benefits to balancing the gut flora, listed in the various sections on - http://www.microbialinfluence.com/ (http://www.microbialinfluence.com/)
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: raw on November 29, 2012, 06:13:07 am
Omega 3 Minami brand is an excellent product. Thank u Dorothy to introduce that. Omega 3 keeps a good heart and good heart assists a good brain. Here is the link:
http://wakeup-world.com/2012/02/29/hearts-have-their-own-brain-and-consciousness/ (http://wakeup-world.com/2012/02/29/hearts-have-their-own-brain-and-consciousness/)
Hearts Have Their Own Brain and Consciousness

By mindfulmuscleblog.com

Heart Fields

Many believe that conscious awareness originates in the brain alone. Recent scientific research suggests that consciousness actually emerges from the brain and body acting together. A growing body of evidence suggests that the heart plays a particularly significant role in this process.

Far more than a simple pump, as was once believed, the heart is now recognized by scientists as a highly complex system with its own functional “brain.”

Research in the new discipline of neurocardiology shows that the heart is a sensory organ and a sophisticated center for receiving and processing information. The nervous system within the heart (or “heart brain”) enables it to learn, remember, and make functional decisions independent of the brain’s cerebral cortex. Moreover, numerous experiments have demonstrated that the signals the heart continuously sends to the brain influence the function of higher brain centers involved in perception, cognition, and emotional processing.

In addition to the extensive neural communication network linking the heart with the brain and body, the heart also communicates information to the brain and throughout the body via electromagnetic field interactions. The heart generates the body’s most powerful and most extensive rhythmic electromagnetic field.Compared to the electromagnetic field produced by the brain, the electrical component of the heart’s field is about 60 times greater in amplitude, and permeates every cell in the body. The magnetic component is approximately 5000 times stronger than the brain’s magnetic field and can be detected several feet away from the body with sensitive magnetometers.

The heart generates a continuous series of electromagnetic pulses in which the time interval between each beat varies in a dynamic and complex manner. The heart’s ever-present rhythmic field has a powerful influence on processes throughout the body. We have demonstrated, for example, that brain rhythms naturally synchronize to the heart’s rhythmic activity, and also that during sustained feelings of love or appreciation, the blood pressure and respiratory rhythms, among other oscillatory systems, entrain to the heart’s rhythm. We propose that the heart’s field acts as a carrier wave for information that provides a global synchronizing signal for the entire body. Specifically, we suggest that as pulsing waves of energy radiate out from the heart, they interact with organs and other structures. The waves encode or record the features and dynamic activity of these structures in patterns of energy waveforms that are distributed throughout the body. In this way, the encoded information acts to in-form (literally, give shape to) the activity of all bodily functions—to coordinate and synchronize processes in the body as a whole. This perspective requires an energetic concept of information, in which patterns of organization are enfolded into waves of energy of system activity distributed throughout the system as a whole.

Basic research at the Institute of HeartMath shows that information pertaining to a person’s emotional state is also communicated throughout the body via the heart’s electromagnetic field. The rhythmic beating patterns of the heart change significantly as we experience different emotions. Negative emotions, such as anger or frustration, are associated with an erratic, disordered, incoherent pattern in the heart’s rhythms. In contrast, positive emotions, such as love or appreciation, are associated with a smooth, ordered, coherent pattern in the heart’s rhythmic activity. In turn, these changes in the heart’s beating patterns create corresponding changes in the structure of the electromagnetic field radiated by the heart, measurable by a technique called spectral analysis.

More specifically, we have demonstrated that sustained positive emotions appear to give rise to a distinct mode of functioning, which we call psychophysiological coherence. During this mode, heart rhythms exhibit a sine wave-like pattern and the heart’s electromagnetic field becomes correspondingly more organized.

    At the physiological level, this mode is characterized by increased efficiency and harmony in the activity and interactions of the body’s systems. [1]

    Psychologically, this mode is linked with a notable reduction in internal mental dialogue, reduced perceptions of stress, increased emotional balance, and enhanced mental clarity, intuitive discernment, and cognitive performance.

In sum, our research suggests that psychophysiological coherence is important in enhancing consciousness—both for the body’s sensory awareness of the information required to execute and coordinate physiological function, and also to optimize emotional stability, mental function, and intentional action. Furthermore, as we see next, there is experimental evidence that psychophysiological coherence may increase our awareness of and sensitivity to others around us. The Institute of HeartMath has created practical technologies and tools that all people can use to increase coherence.
Heart Field Interactions Between Individuals

Most people think of social communication solely in terms of overt signals expressed through language, voice qualities, gestures, facial expressions, and body movements. However, there is now evidence that a subtle yet influential electromagnetic or “energetic” communication system operates just below our conscious awareness. Energetic interactions likely contribute to the “magnetic” attractions or repulsions that occur between individuals, and also affect social exchanges and relationships. Moreover, it appears that the heart’s field plays an important role in communicating physiological, psychological, and social information between individuals.

Experiments conducted at the Institute of HeartMath have found remarkable evidence that the heart’s electromagnetic field can transmit information between people. We have been able to measure an exchange of heart energy between individuals up to 5 feet apart. We have also found that one person’s brain waves can actually synchronize to another person’s heart. Furthermore, when an individual is generating a coherent heart rhythm, synchronization between that person’s brain waves and another person’s heartbeat is more likely to occur. These findings have intriguing implications, suggesting that individuals in a psychophysiologically coherent state become more aware of the information encoded in the heart fields of those around them.

The results of these experiments have led us to infer that the nervous system acts as an “antenna,” which is tuned to and responds to the electromagnetic fields produced by the hearts of other individuals. We believe this capacity for exchange of energetic information is an innate ability that heightens awareness and mediates important aspects of true empathy and sensitivity to others Furthermore, we have observed that this energetic communication ability can be intentionally enhanced, producing a much deeper level of nonverbal communication, understanding, and connection between people. There is also intriguing evidence that heart field interactions can occur between people and animals.

In short, energetic communication via the heart field facilitates development of an expanded consciousness in relation to our social world.
The Heart’s Field and Intuition

There are also new data suggesting that the heart’s field is directly involved in intuitive perception, through its coupling to an energetic information field outside the bounds of space and time. Using a rigorous experimental design, we found compelling evidence that both the heart and brain receive and respond to information about a future event before the event actually happens. Even more surprising was our finding that the heart appears to receive this “intuitive” information before the brain. This suggests that the heart’s field may be linked to a more subtle energetic field that contains information on objects and events remote in space or ahead in time. Called by Karl Pribram and others the “spectral domain,” this is a fundamental order of potential energy that enfolds space and time, and is thought to be the basis for our consciousness of “the whole.” (See heartmath.org for further detail.)
Social Fields

In the same way that the heart generates energy in the body, we propose that the social collective is the activator and regulator of the energy in social systems.

A body of groundbreaking work shows how the field of socioemotional interaction between a mother and her infant is essential to brain development, the emergence of consciousness, and the formation of a healthy self-concept. These interactions are organized along two relational dimensions—stimulation of the baby’s emotions, and regulation of shared emotional energy. Together they form a socioemotional field through which enormous quantities of psychobiological and psychosocial information are exchanged. Coherent organization of the mother-child relations that make up this field is critical. This occurs when interactions are charged, most importantly, with positive emotions (love, joy, happiness, excitement, appreciation, etc.), and are patterned as highly synchronized, reciprocal exchanges between these two individuals. These patterns are imprinted in the child’s brain and thus influence psychosocial function throughout life. (See Allan Schore, Affect Regulation and the Origin of the Self.)

Moreover in a longitudinal study of 46 social groups, one of us (RTB) documented how information about the global organization of a group—the group’s collective consciousness—appears to be transmitted to all members by an energetic field of socio-emotional connection. Data on the relationships between each pair of members was found to provide an accurate image of the social structure of the group as a whole. Coherent organization of the group’s social structure is associated with a network of positively charged emotions (love, excitement, and optimism) connecting all members. This network of positive emotions appears to constitute a field of energetic connection into which information about the group’s social structure is encoded and distributed throughout the group. Remarkably, an accurate picture of the group’s overall social structure was obtained from information only about relationships between pairs of individuals. We believe the only way this is possible is if information about the organization of the whole group is distributed to all members of the group via an energetic field. Such correspondence in information between parts and the whole is consistent with the principle of holographic organization. [2]
Synthesis and Implications

Some organizing features of the heart field, identified in numerous studies at HeartMath, may also be shared by those of our hypothesized social field. Each is a field of energy in which the waveforms of energy encode the features of objects and events as energy moves throughout the system. This creates a nonlocal order of energetic information in which each location in the field contains an enfolded image of the organization of the whole system at that moment. The organization and processing of information in these energy fields can best be understood in terms of quantum holographic principles. [3]

Another commonality is the role of positive emotions, such as love and appreciation, in generating coherence both in the heart field and in social fields. When the movement of energy is intentionally regulated to form a coherent, harmonious order, information integrity and flow are optimized. This, in turn, produces stable, effective system function, which enhances health, psychosocial well-being, and intentional action in the individual or social group.

Heart coherence and social coherence may also act to mutually reinforce each other. As individuals within a group increase psychophysiological coherence, psychosocial attunement may be increased, thereby increasing the coherence of social relations. Similarly, the creation of a coherent social field by a group may help support the generation and maintenance of psychophysiological coherence in its individual members. An expanded, deepened awareness and consciousness results—of the body’s internal physiological, emotional, and mental processes, and also of the deeper, latent orders enfolded into the energy fields that surround us.This is the basis of self-awareness, social sensitivity, creativity, intuition, spiritual insight, and understanding of ourselves and all that we are connected to. It is through the intentional generation of coherence in both heart and social fields that a critical shift to the next level of planetary consciousness can occur—one that brings us into harmony with the movement of the whole.

For more information on the Institute of HeartMath’s research and publications, please visit www.heartmath.org (http://www.heartmath.org).

About the Authors

Rollin McCraty, Ph.D.
Rollin is the Executive Vice President and Director of Research at the Institute of Heart Math. He has been with IHM since its inception in 1991 and has worked with founder Doc Childre to formulate the organization’s research goals and create its Scientific Advisory Board. Rollin is a Fellow of the American Institute of Stress, holds memberships with the International Neurocardiology Network, American Autonomic Society, Pavlovian Society and Association for Applied Psychophysiology and Biofeedback and is an adjunct professor at Claremont Graduate University.

Raymond Trevor Bradley, Ph.D.
Adjunct Associate Research Professor, Center for Brain Research and Informational Sciences, Radford University; Director, Institute for Whole Social Science; Author – Charisma and Social Structure, Carmel, CA.

Dana Tomasino, BA
Researcher and scientific writer at the Institute of HeartMath since 1995.

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Footnotes

    Correlates of physiological coherence include: increased synchronization between the two branches of the autonomic nervous system, a shift in autonomic balance toward increased parasympathetic activity, increased heart-brain synchronization, increased vascular resonance, and entrainment between diverse physiological oscillatory systems.
    Holographic organization is based on a field concept of order, in which information about the organization of an object as a whole is encoded as an interference pattern in energy waveforms distributed throughout the field. This makes it possible to retrieve information about the object as a whole from any location within the field.
    The term “quantum,” as used in quantum holography, does not mean that this kind of energetic information processing is understood in terms of the principles of quantum physics. Rather, quantum holography is a special, nondeterministic form of holographic organization based on a discrete unit of energetic information called a logon or a “quantum” of information.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: raw on November 30, 2012, 12:53:26 am
Here, the video shows, how drugs impaired Heather.  Drugs never work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvdw4b7tC-8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvdw4b7tC-8)
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: LePatron7 on December 02, 2012, 07:30:34 am
I've read a lot of recommendations on this forum for consuming organs based on having a specific problem.

For example if you're having liver problems eat liver, or thyroid problems consume sweetbreads.

Wouldn't the same thing apply to mental illness? So brain would be beneficial for schizophrenia.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: Busgrw on December 02, 2012, 07:44:03 am
Wouldn't the same thing apply to mental illness? So brain would be beneficial for schizophrenia.

Not sure DaBoss but glad you asked the question as would be keen to know myself.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: LePatron7 on December 02, 2012, 07:57:17 am
Not sure DaBoss but glad you asked the question as would be keen to know myself.

It kind of makes sense. If we have a malfunctioning organ, maybe we need nutrients that a properly functioning organ might have.

I noticed there's A LOT of cholesterol in beef brains. 4 oz has 3401mg, or 1134%. I wonder if all animal's brains (ours included) are that high in cholesterol?

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/beef-products/3461/2 (http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/beef-products/3461/2)
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: LePatron7 on December 02, 2012, 08:06:25 am
Here's what I found when I did a google search of "brain cholesterol."

http://atvb.ahajournals.org/content/24/5/806.short (http://atvb.ahajournals.org/content/24/5/806.short)

http://www.wallstreetweather.net/2008/02/surprise-your-brain-needs-cholesterol.html (http://www.wallstreetweather.net/2008/02/surprise-your-brain-needs-cholesterol.html)

It's interesting. It shows brains are really high in cholesterol and that statins (cholesterol lowering medications) actually inhibit brain function.

"Cholesterol levels and cholesterol turnover are affected in neurodegenerating disorders, and the capacity for cholesterol transport and recycling in the brain seems to be of importance for the development of such diseases."

"Approximately 25% of the total amount of the cholesterol present in humans is localized to this organ, most of it present in myelin. Almost all brain cholesterol is a product of local synthesis, with the blood-brain barrier efficiently protecting it from exchange with lipoprotein cholesterol in the circulation."

Does this mean there's a specific type of cholesterol in the brain?

Maybe the specific type of cholesterol in brain is ultra-nourishing for the brain.

Very interesting. Maybe there really is something to eating the organ of a healthy animal for your own ill organ.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: LePatron7 on December 02, 2012, 08:15:44 am
The verdict is in. All brains are high in cholesterol.

Lamb brain - 1,528 mg - 509%
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/lamb-veal-and-game-products/4654/2 (http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/lamb-veal-and-game-products/4654/2)

Pork brain - 2,480 mg - 827%
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/pork-products/2182/2 (http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/pork-products/2182/2)

Veal brain - 1,797 mg - 599%
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/lamb-veal-and-game-products/4657/2 (http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/lamb-veal-and-game-products/4657/2)

Maybe cooked cholesterol containing foods have damaged cholesterol, and that affects the brain?
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: goodsamaritan on December 02, 2012, 04:58:32 pm
I can only eat a handful of beef brain in 1 sitting.  There is a definite stop signal.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: Muladzh on December 02, 2012, 05:32:44 pm
Before emigrating the the US, I lived in the Highlands of Scotland, where I worked at a mental hospital, as resident psychologist, where I met and worked with a doctor who used diet to control many of the disorders patients suffered from.
Relevant here is the treatment, at that time regarded as crazy, but with amazing results, whereby the patient was directed to follow a strict diet without any greens at all, lettuce is not just bad for skin disorders, it is very bad for schizophrenia, along with any and all cruciferous vegetables. If all nightshades were avoided also, the results were stunning - the condition was controlled extremely well, resulting in reduction of medication, and introduction to local group housing. I have been unable to find any documentation of the 'treatment' as the hospital in question is no longer open.  My familiarity with the results, however, convinced me to recommend this 'diet' to patients in the US.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: LePatron7 on December 02, 2012, 08:14:28 pm
I can only eat a handful of beef brain in 1 sitting.  There is a definite stop signal.

maybe it's all the cholesterol? The last time I ate brain it seemed like I can eat the whole thing. maybe I need the nutrients in brain more than the average person
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: goodsamaritan on December 02, 2012, 09:50:53 pm
maybe it's all the cholesterol? The last time I ate brain it seemed like I can eat the whole thing. maybe I need the nutrients in brain more than the average person

That's a nice clue.

Maybe we need other raw brain eaters here to chime in with their experiences.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: Busgrw on December 02, 2012, 10:46:06 pm
Very interesting. Maybe there really is something to eating the organ of a healthy animal for your own ill organ.

Think you're definitely on to something here. I'd love to give it a try although I think it#s near on impossible to get brain in the UK!!!

...or does anyone know different?
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: TylerDurden on December 02, 2012, 10:52:59 pm
Think you're definitely on to something here. I'd love to give it a try although I think it#s near on impossible to get brain in the UK!!!

...or does anyone know different?
I was able to get hold of raw brain, but only from one of the farmers at the LFM markets in London, and, even then, it was from grainfed pigs, so not ideal.

http://www.lfm.org.uk/ (http://www.lfm.org.uk/)

Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: LePatron7 on December 08, 2012, 09:49:11 am
More info supporting an SCD/GAPS type raw paleo diet for schizophrenia.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/03/18/mcbride-and-barringer-interview.aspx (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/03/18/mcbride-and-barringer-interview.aspx)

This article shows how foods need to be absorbed properly for the brain to function properly.

I don't totally agree with her saying no plant foods, or that raw plant foods can't be absorbed if eaten raw.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: Inger on December 08, 2012, 03:46:11 pm
DaBoss, thank you for telling about your experiences here!
My brother has Schizophrenia too and he is bad off now. He was so much better in the summer when he lived by me and did paleo and stuff. Then he just decided to leave, at that day he turned to a vegetarian (and a junk food one) and now he is in the hospital very bad off. He is so proud it want work as long as people do not see how sick they are and how much they need healing for sure. I strongly believe everyone can heal it just depends on your state of mind, how humble one is.

Brains I can eat a lot of too.. huh! I ate 2 lambs brains this fall (our own lambs) in 2 days but I could have had both in one sitting for sure. Yum! Sadly I need to wait for next fall to get some brains again. They are labeled as "toxic waste" here in Finland.  -[
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: LePatron7 on December 08, 2012, 05:10:42 pm
DaBoss, thank you for telling about your experiences here!
My brother has Schizophrenia too and he is bad off now. He was so much better in the summer when he lived by me and did paleo and stuff. Then he just decided to leave, at that day he turned to a vegetarian (and a junk food one) and now he is in the hospital very bad off. He is so proud it want work as long as people do not see how sick they are and how much they need healing for sure. I strongly believe everyone can heal it just depends on your state of mind, how humble one is.

Brains I can eat a lot of too.. huh! I ate 2 lambs brains this fall (our own lambs) in 2 days but I could have had both in one sitting for sure. Yum! Sadly I need to wait for next fall to get some brains again. They are labeled as "toxic waste" here in Finland.  -[

It's my pleasure, hopefully my story can help someone else heal and live a normal life. I too think everyone can heal. But some people, especially schizophrenics, don't realize how sick they are. Most go through their whole life denying they have an illness.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: LePatron7 on December 15, 2012, 10:05:06 am
Something I just thought of that really helps lift my spirits, is thinking about the worst times for me. Ie. being hospitalized, having no future. And then thinking about how things have turned around, no more hospital, no more uncertainty of my future.

It really helps pick me up and reassure me that I'm going down the right path, and to keep trotting along.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: jessica on December 15, 2012, 12:38:10 pm
Something I just thought of that really helps lift my spirits, is thinking about the worst times for me. Ie. being hospitalized, having no future. And then thinking about how things have turned around, no more hospital, no more uncertainty of my future.

It really helps pick me up and reassure me that I'm going down the right path, and to keep trotting along.

i agree with this whole heartedly.  i honestly think that it is the most amazing thing that maintaining a healthy diet and lifestyle has kept my mental illness in check.  i dont think anyone, and sometimes i cant even, believe how absolutely insane i have been or acted in my life.  really, there is no way i could convince anyone of some of the things i have said or done out of plain craze and confusion, and so much of that energy and frustration and delusion was brought along or amplified by bad diet, environment and lifestyle choices, purely by not making good choice for myself or being in situations where i was unable to.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: LePatron7 on December 20, 2012, 11:57:40 pm
The (possible) mechanism(s) by which niacin helps schizophrenia

http://www.foodforthebrain.org/content.asp?id_Content=1638 (http://www.foodforthebrain.org/content.asp?id_Content=1638)
"Just how niacin works is still a bit of a mystery. Knowing that people with schizophrenia had hallucinations, Dr Hoffer’s explanation was that niacin stops the brain from producing adrenochrome from adrenalin, a chemical known to induce hallucinations. Working together with vitamin B12 and folic acid, niacin helps keep adrenalin and noradrenalin levels in balance, and prevent the abnormal production of adrenochrome in the brain. These nutrients are ‘methyl’ donors and acceptors, and act intelligently in the brain to keep everything in check. Once again, some people may simply need more to stay healthy.

Niacin, through its flushing action improves oxygen supply to the brain. Niacin is also needed for the brain to make use of essential fats. The ‘happy’ neurotransmitter serotonin also needs niacin. Serotonin is made from the amino acid tryptophan, but only in the presence of enough niacin. So there are many possible ways this vitamin could affect brain function."

The link also lists many things that benefit schizophrenics, like EFA's, avoiding stimulants, increasing antioxidants, balancing blood sugar, etc. All these things are addressed by a TRUE RPDiet.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: LePatron7 on December 21, 2012, 12:05:35 am
For those interested, here's a list of orthomolecular doctors nation wide (US). They vary in specialties, but they all look for natural treatments.

http://orthomolecular.org/resources/drs.shtml (http://orthomolecular.org/resources/drs.shtml)
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: raw on December 21, 2012, 01:07:53 am
I eat cow brain almost couple of days in a month and feel great and my son eats that every 15 days in a month. My body is super cool after 3 straight years on Raw paleo. I feel so lucky to hav this supply. We should be a butcher , so this is the most reliable way to get brains from animals
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: LePatron7 on December 21, 2012, 01:32:43 am
That's great. My future weekly diet will include various organs weekly.

I'll order 1 lb liver, brain, kidney, heart and tongue. Cut 8 oz from each lb, save it in the fridge and eat it within 2 days so I can eat fresh organs. Then freeze the other 8 oz for the following week.

So I plan to eat 8 oz brain every week. Along with 8 oz kidney, heart, tongue and liver every week. The rest of my meats will come from muscle meats from lamb, beef, salmon, and if I can get it grass fed buffalo.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: raw on December 21, 2012, 01:44:35 am
Why freezing DaBoss? Why using the refrigerator in necessary? I m sure if u just eat these slimy meat for extra probiotics, that will be even better
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: LePatron7 on December 21, 2012, 02:04:17 am
I agree with you. But I need to ease into it. I seem to tolerate raw meat fine. I mean... If I can down 6 oz of brain in 3 days I'd say I don't find it gross. But high meat.... I think that's something that takes a little more time to get used to.

Eventually I might consider doing just that. Just getting it fresh, sticking it in some jars and leaving it out till the following week when I'm ready to eat it.

But for now, I'll stick to getting it fresh. Eating what I can fresh, and freezing the rest for the following week.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: raw on December 21, 2012, 01:20:05 pm
DaBoss, it took me couple of days to adopt on high meat when I just started the RPD. Despite, all of those nonsense warning that high meat is only for advance RPD, I started right away and my intellectual mom also started taking high meat even she before ever tasted raw meat. I give high meat as a gift even vegetarian people. I even sent to high meat as a gift to Grithnir from NY to Idaho. The 1st thing that Grithnir and his partner commented that high meat is truly amazing thing
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: LePatron7 on December 21, 2012, 05:55:15 pm
We'll see. Right now I'm only eating a little bit raw. Later I might decide to eat lots of high meat. Probably not the fattier foods though.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: TylerDurden on December 21, 2012, 07:10:54 pm
It is a bit nonsense, admittedly, for me to claim that one should wait a year to eat "high-meat" as "high-meat" is not dangerous per se. However, it takes a lot of courage to try fresh, raw meats in the first place, and most people find they need to take time to adjust to eating "high-meat" without vomiting. In my own case, I was so scared of non-fresh raw meat, despite eating raw meats left in the fridge for days, that I rather foolishly waited 3 more years before trying "high-meat".
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: raw on December 24, 2012, 02:40:06 pm
The big part of schizophrenia is solved by right diet. The importance of pre and probiotics are priceless. If we could feed a schizophrenics high meat , acidophilous, water kifer, fermented veggies, netto and give enema with VSL#3 everyday, I believe, that would make a huge different to control schizophrenics symptoms

Can not imagine about the proper mental treatment without of them
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: raw on December 26, 2012, 03:43:50 am
In USA, they categorized mental patient especially schizophrenics. Level 1 are those, who are completely crazy, stay naked, and not aware of any hygiene, violent, suicidal...etc. Level 2 are those, having all schizophrenics symptoms, but don't know what to do.

Unfortunately for those patients, who are on Level 1, they don't have anything but only institution, group homes...etc. These population, usually can't come out from this systems, where they are just like some rats on laboratory. Heavily drugged them and cut the verve permanently to make them retarded. But in third world, these population has better chance to recover fully.

There are many wonderful treatment and option available for Level 2 population. Right knowlege and enormous supply of money can completely cure these patients.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: LePatron7 on January 07, 2013, 07:15:00 am
http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=20060301174333 (http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=20060301174333)

BIOPOLAR DISORDER Even though we have had some success with schizophrenia, I have no experience whatsoever with bipolar. But the brain with its trillions of neurons is the most demanding organ in the body, and if you are not getting the nutrients from a good nutritious diet which this is, and if you are getting bacterial toxins from too much fermentation in your colon, it's bound to effect your brain. So I can't give you the kind of statistics for bipolar disorder that I can give you for the other things, but you could try it; it's a wonderful diet. You don't have to mortgage your home. You just try it for a month or longer. It's a good diet it is going to help many different problems.

http://www.scdiet.org/1about/chapterone.html (http://www.scdiet.org/1about/chapterone.html)

It is interesting to note that in June, 1985, the Schizophrenia Association of Great Britain launched a research project to investigate Dr. F. C. Dohan's research concerning a relationship between celiac disease and schizophrenia. The basis for this project is a strict grain-free, milk-free, low sugar diet, closely related to the Specific Carbohydrate Diet.

http://eatkamloops.org/specific-carbohydrate-diet-scd/?doing_wp_cron=1357513801.9848530292510986328125 (http://eatkamloops.org/specific-carbohydrate-diet-scd/?doing_wp_cron=1357513801.9848530292510986328125)

Over time something began to happen. People using the SCD found their other chronic health conditions became less serious or completely disappeared. Diseases caused by inflammation or autoimmune reactions seem to be helped in some way by the diet. This includes: asthma, allergies, chronic sinus infections, type two diabetes, arthritis, MS, heart disease, seizure disorders, epilepsy, depression, schizophrenia, autism and the spectrum disorders. The list continues to grow.

http://www.microbialinfluence.com/Brain.html (http://www.microbialinfluence.com/Brain.html)

LPS produces changes in the amygdala and hippocampus.
LPS produces alterations in serotonin levels.
LPS causes degeneration and reduction in dopamine (DA) neurons
LPS exacerbates hippocampal damage induced by seizures
LPS affects cerebral blood flow
LPS results in degeneration of Myelin
LPS promotes excessive numbers of cholinergic neurons
LPS results in White Matter Damage

http://www.microbialinfluence.com/Emotions.html (http://www.microbialinfluence.com/Emotions.html)

LPS affects social interaction
LPS inducing fear and anxiety
LPS increases tendency for addiction.
LPS might might precipitate alcohol drinking behavior
Some of the physiological consequences of LPS are mediated by endogenous opioid peptides.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: LePatron7 on March 18, 2013, 10:57:10 am
Rds, I know you mentioned grinthr had thyroid problems. Gets a link showing microbial toxins can cause thyroid problems. Hence supporting a raw scdiet.

 http://www.microbialinfluence.com/thyroidlps.html (http://www.microbialinfluence.com/thyroidlps.html)
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: K-WI on May 07, 2013, 10:45:54 pm
http://www.healthaliciousness.com/articles/foods-high-in-niacin-vitamin-B3.php (http://www.healthaliciousness.com/articles/foods-high-in-niacin-vitamin-B3.php)

Good list of top foods by niacin content. First 2 ones don´t match with RPD but next ones do. And most of them are from animal world.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: raw on May 07, 2013, 11:53:00 pm
Yeah!! Daily average intake of 8/9 raw egg yolks, niacin 3000mg, mg, folic acid, zinc... helping in a great deal severely schizophrenic patient , my brother. This is the 1st time for the past 6 months, he is out of any hospitals. Usually, he goes to hospitals every month and stays home 1 or 2 days before he goes completely crazy. Still he is quite abnormal, cause he does not want to eat healthy and all psychiatric symptoms are there, but he is NOT violent, NOT suicidal. He is addicted on sugar, gluten...u name it!!! But he is unaware that mom is hiding all vitamins and egg yolks in his drinks, juices. That keeps his totally stable. After numerous hospitalizations, now his ONLY place could be institution, but mom is keeping him almost norm by this.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: LePatron7 on May 11, 2013, 06:05:38 am
http://www.healthaliciousness.com/articles/foods-high-in-niacin-vitamin-B3.php (http://www.healthaliciousness.com/articles/foods-high-in-niacin-vitamin-B3.php)

Good list of top foods by niacin content. First 2 ones don´t match with RPD but next ones do. And most of them are from animal world.

The amounts in food are nowhere near sufficient for what's needed to manage schizophrenic symptoms. I take 15,000% the DV of niacin, or 1,500 mg daily.

I recommend looking into Dr. Hoffer's book "Healing Schizophrenia: Complementary Vitamin & Drug Treatments."

Look into big doses of b complex, vitamin c, and possibly others also.

Drink clean water - distilled or spring.

A raw diet is really helpful. See if you can find a cheap source of grass fed animal fats. Suet, beef fat, etc. It's cheap and great for adding calories and raw fats.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: K-WI on May 23, 2013, 01:22:05 am
Yeah!! Daily average intake of 8/9 raw egg yolks, niacin 3000mg, mg, folic acid, zinc... helping in a great deal severely schizophrenic patient , my brother. This is the 1st time for the past 6 months, he is out of any hospitals. Usually, he goes to hospitals every month and stays home 1 or 2 days before he goes completely crazy. Still he is quite abnormal, cause he does not want to eat healthy and all psychiatric symptoms are there, but he is NOT violent, NOT suicidal. He is addicted on sugar, gluten...u name it!!! But he is unaware that mom is hiding all vitamins and egg yolks in his drinks, juices. That keeps his totally stable. After numerous hospitalizations, now his ONLY place could be institution, but mom is keeping him almost norm by this.

Great! And what is her diet actually?

I am a big gluten, sugar, chocolate, pasta, fat and nuts.......addict... I am not an extreme schizophrenic but i always did strange things without thinking a lot before doing them. Recently (since i have found i had candida and maybe a lot of issues and i connected all pieces of the puzzle) i have been more like depressed because all of the reading on the internet searching for cures, diets, not having social life, a broken relationship..... etc.....

I am trying to eat raw meat, but i need to season it a lot with tamari (i think is SCD illegal), onion, parsley, mustard, anchovies and egg yolks......My taste buds are not allowing raw meat alone....

My taste buds are loving raw egg yolks. Ohhh yes they taste soooo goood,  however i need to eat a lot of them and they don´t fill my stomach. I have not found yet a reliable source of pastured eggs because all are certified as "organics" but they feed their hens on "bio grains". And these best eggs costs about 4 euros/dozen. So expensive . They give me bad breath too.....

Recently i read GCB´s book on anopsology and i found one guy ate about 60 raw egg yolks when he begin anopsology in one sitting! Maybe my instinto is saying to me i need egg yolks....who knows!

Edit: Another liver cancer patient on GCB´s book began to eat a lot of grapes, tallow and raw egg yolks......That is raw SCD Instinto i think......

It is curious, my instinto tell me i need raw fats and raw carbs......not a lot of protein....when i do that i usually eat Apples and nuts...and this usually gives me diarrea.....it is the only time i got diarrea....and i am thinking a lot on it.....isn´t diarrea a detox thing?



Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: K-WI on May 23, 2013, 01:33:45 am
The amounts in food are nowhere near sufficient for what's needed to manage schizophrenic symptoms. I take 15,000% the DV of niacin, or 1,500 mg daily.

I recommend looking into Dr. Hoffer's book "Healing Schizophrenia: Complementary Vitamin & Drug Treatments."

Look into big doses of b complex, vitamin c, and possibly others also.

Drink clean water - distilled or spring.

A raw diet is really helpful. See if you can find a cheap source of grass fed animal fats. Suet, beef fat, etc. It's cheap and great for adding calories and raw fats.

I am deciding what to do but it seems logical to me to start with these supplements, maybe this way i can think better and take better decisions.

I have been drinking only distilled  water for 2 or 3 years. When i recently come back to live with my parents due to my weird deccisions.....mom said me.....what if that distilled water that ytou were drinking is the cause of all your problems??? Then i cut back it, but i am worst right now.....LOL

Unfortunately it is very difficult here to get grass feed only......almost the more organic things are finalised on grains....i will find it if i decide to do this diet....

I don´t know if i could handle raw brain or raw liver seeing that just raw meat is so disgusting to me.....

Thinking on doing the raw mil diet for a month or so and see what will happen. Milk give me the worst tongue coating and i am thinking a lot of things too...there are folks that are detoxing a lot on raw milk only.....I don´t know what is tongue coating but thinking if it is a detox thing....when i did the water fast my white tongue was the worst too.....
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: Alive on May 23, 2013, 02:49:24 am
@K-WI,
I get diarrhoea if I eat foods me body doesn't like, especially high carb foods like cereals. Diarrhoea is a sign of detox only as far as you are getting rid of the 'crap' you have eaten recently, not a more helpful type of detox eliminating stored waste. When I eat low carb raw paleo then my body tends to hold onto the food for longer, because the breaking down raw fatty foods continue to be useful and appreciated as they continue digestion.

If you get diarrhoea from something it would be wise to stop eating it.

K-WI, your symptoms have many similarities to mine and we both seem to suffer from carbs. If you follow a low carb raw paleo diet then I would expect you to see a lot of improvements. In my case it seems that I need to be very strict to get the result of feeling great, and with similar food addictions to you it has been quite long road, since every carb cheat takes a few weeks to get over and get back in the groove.

Last year I too thought that I wouldn't be able to eat raw liver, so I blended this and other offal with greens to make smoothies to hide the taste. Now I think liver tastes fine and even kidney is OK.

At the moment I am eating 2 meals a day, with a daily total of 200g pure fat / coconut oil, 400g offal (heart/liver/kidney), 200g meat / fish, plus salt, and 2 eggs. The only thing I really don't like the taste of is the coconut oil - it tastes a bit yucky to me. I weigh and chop this up into bite size bits for breakfast and then again for an early dinner. If I do cheat then it is only on small amounts of low carb foods.

I really want to feel great and the low carb RP diet has had me feeling great before so I am confident that any sacrifices from having to eat this way are well worth it!
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: K-WI on May 23, 2013, 04:02:05 am
@K-WI,
I get diarrhoea if I eat foods me body doesn't like, especially high carb foods like cereals. Diarrhoea is a sign of detox only as far as you are getting rid of the 'crap' you have eaten recently, not a more helpful type of detox eliminating stored waste. When I eat low carb raw paleo then my body tends to hold onto the food for longer, because the breaking down raw fatty foods continue to be useful and appreciated as they continue digestion.
If you get diarrhoea from something it would be wise to stop eating it.

I never get diarrea from cereals. They form a mussy brownie paste when i go bathroom. It is difficult to clean my ass when eating carbs.......thats true....i need a lot of paper. When i eat only meat....my stools are well formed and dark enough...
Yes probably you have the fact with the diarrea thing....

So if you eat low carb raw paleo you go less times to the bathroom? I think the same, yes. With carbs i am never constipated, i usually go to poop first thing in the morning, but yesterday i ate raw meat....and i didn´t poop today.

Maybe you are trying to say that this is not constipation, just that your body want to hold the food longer because he could get more nutrients from this type of food for more longer time.

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K-WI, your symptoms have many similarities to mine and we both seem to suffer from carbs. If you follow a low carb raw paleo diet then I would expect you to see a lot of improvements. In my case it seems that I need to be very strict to get the result of feeling great, and with similar food addictions to you it has been quite long road, since every carb cheat takes a few weeks to get over and get back in the groove.

Yes maybe we suffer from carbs. But are the carbs really the root cause of our problems?
Do you consider cured if you cheat one day on a carb and then you are sick again?
I am thinking on anopsology, but it seems i will begin to eat fruit, fats and eggs......don´t know.

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Last year I too thought that I wouldn't be able to eat raw liver, so I blended this and other offal with greens to make smoothies to hide the taste. Now I think liver tastes fine and even kidney is OK.

Did you blend it with water? What greens do you add to it?

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At the moment I am eating 2 meals a day, with a daily total of 200g pure fat / coconut oil, 400g offal (heart/liver/kidney), 200g meat / fish, plus salt, and 2 eggs. The only thing I really don't like the taste of is the coconut oil - it tastes a bit yucky to me. I weigh and chop this up into bite size bits for breakfast and then again for an early dinner. If I do cheat then it is only on small amounts of low carb foods.

I can force me to eat this....but i guess if i will eat them trying anopsology....

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I really want to feel great and the low carb RP diet has had me feeling great before so I am confident that any sacrifices from having to eat this way are well worth it!

So you are not feeling right just now? Why?.....due to some cheating maybe?
How much time have you been eating this way before and for how time did you cheated?
Why do you cheated if this is the reason?

Sorry about my poor english....
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Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: LePatron7 on May 23, 2013, 04:34:08 am
If you're really dealing with schizophrenia, I'd consider the supplements first. Those were the biggest help for me. In fact, when I tried diet alone, I was really bad. When I was just on supplements, I was fine. With supplements and diet, I'm awesome.

Look into the GI pro health scd legal b complex, vitamin c, and multivitamin. They have the active forms of B12, and folic acid. You can get SCD legal niacin from Solgar with the veggie caps.

As far as diet, you don't need to make it perfect to begin with. Start out supplementing appropriately, drinking clean water, and making small dietary changes. Eliminate the worst junk foods first. Add in some raw foods. It's easier to just eliminate some of the worst foods, and add in the good ones. And just keep doing that till you're eating right.

Also something else I noticed is that it's hard to get some vitamins and minerals on a raw diet. For example you'd have to eat a lot of sea food to get enough iodine. It's hard to get enough calcium and magnesium. Don't hesitate to supplement where you're not getting all the right nutrients. That's where that multivitamin will come in handy.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: K-WI on May 23, 2013, 05:10:25 am
Yes is probably that i have some schizofrenia.....i think i really have attention defficit and bipolar disorder......but i also have my fungal issues and parasites.....and thats why i think too on mercury toxicity....and my ugly white tongue!!!!
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: cherimoya_kid on May 23, 2013, 07:52:04 am
The white tongue from raw milk is probably not detox.  You probably are just having trouble digesting it. You should probably ferment it first, and see if that helps. I ferment my raw milk, and only eat the fermented/soured cream.  I throw the rest away.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: LePatron7 on May 23, 2013, 12:20:45 pm
The white tongue from raw milk is probably not detox.  You probably are just having trouble digesting it

That's the problem I was having with raw milk. Even fermented it's not good for schizophrenics. I recommend avoiding all casein and gluten containing foods.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: Alive on May 23, 2013, 01:11:04 pm
@K-WI,
In answer to your questions...
"Maybe you are trying to say that this is not constipation, just that your body want to hold the food longer because he could get more nutrients from this type of food for more longer time."

Yes, in my short experience it seems that this is true, and at the same time my tummy gets slimmer as the old inflammation disappears and the raw animal food is so fully digested. 

"Yes maybe we suffer from carbs. But are the carbs really the root cause of our problems?"

Since we probably suffer from some kind of undesirable microbe infestation and as many others on this site have found relief removing carbs it seems likely that carbs are one of the biggest root causes.

"Do you consider cured if you cheat one day on a carb and then you are sick again?"

If we have a nourishing and satisfying diet that we choose every day to be fully alive then that is a cure.

"Did you blend it with water? What greens do you add to it?"

A food processor can blend offal and greens dry, if you have a blender then you need to add water. I used edible weeds, spinach, red cabbage, broccoli - anything you like and that is available is fine.

"So you are not feeling right just now? Why?.....due to some cheating maybe?"

Yes, occasionally external pressures and microbial mind control toxins trick me into cheating.

"How much time have you been eating this way before and for how time did you cheated?"

I have been eating lots of raw animal foods for a year and chasing after a low carb raw paleo for 5 months.
Why do you cheated if this is the reason?
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: LePatron7 on May 27, 2013, 07:44:28 am
I found an interesting article on thyroid function and schizophrenia. Apparently the same guy (Dr. Abram Hoffer) that used niacin therapy also experimented with thyroid function.

http://orthomolecular.org/library/jom/2001/articles/2001-v16n04-p205.shtml (http://orthomolecular.org/library/jom/2001/articles/2001-v16n04-p205.shtml)

He says he gave patients dessicated thyroid. Can anyone comment on the difference between that and just taking Lugol's iodine?
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: eveheart on May 27, 2013, 08:00:50 am
He says he gave patients dessicated thyroid. Can anyone comment on the difference between that and just taking Lugol's iodine?

Dessicated thyroid supplies T3 and T4 along with the other stuff in the actual thyroid gland. Iodine is what converts T4 to T3 - in layman's terms, T3 is manufactured in the body by binding iodine to T4. This is an oversimplification of the process. It's best to find a description of the T3-T4 cycle from a scientific source.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: LePatron7 on May 27, 2013, 07:18:53 pm
An article arguing schizophrenia could be fungal related.

http://www.encognitive.com/node/6335 (http://www.encognitive.com/node/6335)

"What illnesses schizophrenia is associated with provides us with a clue. LSD-25, a fungal generated toxic indole, can give results that are indistinguishable from schizophrenia."

My schizophrenia/personality changes started after ingesting hallucinogenic mushrooms.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: K-WI on May 28, 2013, 06:38:45 pm
The white tongue from raw milk is probably not detox.  You probably are just having trouble digesting it. You should probably ferment it first, and see if that helps. I ferment my raw milk, and only eat the fermented/soured cream.  I throw the rest away.

I have always a white tongue. Since 1,5 years i tyhink. But with the milk fast, it gets whiter, thicker and coated entirely. My white tongue form my post on comitee is when drinking just milk. If i ate normal it is just the midle back part
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: LePatron7 on July 08, 2013, 08:59:46 pm
Interesting info on Vitamin K2 and brain function.

http://advances.nutrition.org/content/3/2/204.full (http://advances.nutrition.org/content/3/2/204.full)
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: LePatron7 on July 08, 2013, 09:01:07 pm
The amounts in food are nowhere near sufficient for what's needed to manage schizophrenic symptoms. I take 15,000% the DV of niacin, or 1,500 mg daily.

I actually meant 3,000 mg daily, divided into 3 separate doses.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: LePatron7 on July 29, 2013, 11:30:04 pm
Great article on manganese and zinc and their effect in treating schizophrenia.

http://orthomolecular.org/library/jom/1999/articles/1999-v14n01-p028.shtml (http://orthomolecular.org/library/jom/1999/articles/1999-v14n01-p028.shtml)
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: bookittyrun on July 31, 2013, 09:39:41 am
this entire thread, from start to now, has been nothing short of wonderfully informative and amazing, even outside of the title topic...  truly intriguing.   proof that diet plays a part in everything.
i appreciate the opportunity to read something of this magnitude, an impressive amount of first person information!


thanks, guys! 
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: raw on August 03, 2013, 10:07:23 am
Also go back to Daboss healing journal, where I flush my best friend, an orthomolecular doctor from India, the evidence of success on diet on schizophrenia. God bless all
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 07, 2013, 05:16:02 pm
I just met a guy from a common health nut friend and he says he has treated a good number of schizo cases super easy ( for him ).

Raw, you might want to call him up.

William Limvalencia.

Pm me for his contact details.
Title: Re: Schizophrenia
Post by: LePatron7 on November 26, 2013, 03:41:37 am
Methyl Folate and Schizophrenia

http://www.schizophreniaoptions.com/methyl-folate-and-b12/ (http://www.schizophreniaoptions.com/methyl-folate-and-b12/)

"Many individuals with schizophrenia have deficits in metabolism related to methylation, a metabolic process involving carbon donation.   This issues stem from multiple interrelated risk factors involving Cobalamine (B12), Folic Acid (Folate) and Pyridoxine (B6) and the enzymes that interact with these vitamins.

Specifically, low folate levels, high homocysteine levels, and poor folate activation genetics are common in schizophrenia, and these issues appear to confer significant increased risk for development and maintenance of the disorder.  While these deficits occur for a variety of reasons, research has shown that supplementation can correct some aspects of this problem and directly improve symptoms in many individuals."


"Homocysteine is a specific marker for methylation deficits that involve Folate, B12 and/or B6.  Homocysteine is a toxic metabolic step in the methylation cycle (and folate cycle) and high levels of homocysteine have been implicated in many diseases including Depression, Heart Disease, Stroke, Dementia, and Bone Loss.

High plasma homocysteine levels are also common in schizophrenia.   One case-control study reported mean plasma homocysteine levels that were almost 50% higher in schizophrenia compared to controls (16.1 versus 10.9 µmol/L; p=0.028).  Hyperhomocysteinemia with levels greater than 15 µmol/L was seen in 34.4% of subjects with schizophrenia compared to 15.2% of controls (Mabrouk et al. 2011)."


"High homocysteine levels imply that myriad complex metabolic processes essential to physical and mental health are impaired.

One example is Glutathione, an endogenous antioxidant that is often dangerously low in schizophrenia.  In building glutathione homocysteine is first converted to cysteine, the sulfur containing amino acid that acts as its limiting reagent.  Impairment in the complex methylation cycles illustrated in Figure 1 below (from Bradley and Lascalzo 2009) can help explain why glutathione levels are often so low in schizophrenia.  Regardless of whether this is due to genetic abnormalities (e.g., clutamate-cysteine ligase enzyme) or low levels of folate, B6 or B12, intervention is warranted."


"Two problems related to folate have been clearly identified in schizophrenia.  The first issue is clear.  Low plasma folate levels are quite common in this disorder.

One small double-blind study found that 37% of inpatients admitted for schizophrenia had folate levels below 200 µg/l (Godfrey et al. 1990).  A case-control study found high homocysteine levels in schizophrenia in conjunction with folate levels that were half that of controls (8.2 versus 4.2 µmol/L; p<0.001) (Mabrouk et al. 2011).

And these low folate levels appear to matter regarding symptom severity.  Goff et al. (2004) reported plasma folate levels in schizophrenia that are reduced by 43% compared to controls, and they correlated these lower levels to negative symptoms severity as measured by the Schedule for Assessment of Negative Symptoms (SANS) (r=–0.31, N=91, p<0.01).  In other words, there is a correlation between low folate levels and a worsening negative symptoms."


"Kale et al. (2010) reported 36% reductions in plasma folate and 53% reductions in red blood cell folate in individuals with a first episode of psychosis compared to healthy controls.  This study clearly demonstrates that low levels are not the result of antipsychotic medication use."


"In their study of 123 Han Chinese, Feng et al. (2009) reported that subjects with schizophrenia were more than twice as likely to have two copies of the C677T allele of MTHFR compared with controls (31.7% versus 14.6% in controls with p<0.001).  The presence of two copies was associated with significantly increased homocysteine levels in controls and in schizophrenia.  Particularly notable however was that this adverse effect on homocysteine was especially pronounced in schizophrenia, perhaps due to other overlapping genetic risk factors."


"Folate Trials in Schizophrenia

The studies are clear.  Individuals with schizophrenia are at risk for low plasma folate levels and these low levels are likely to impact symptom severity.  At the same time, there is also risk for carrying folate-related genetics that reduce folate activity by over 50%.  In fact, both issues can exist within the same individual because both are common.

Studies using inactive folate in schizophrenia are likely to increase chances of false negative outcomes.  The use of methyfolate is likely to be a more effective treatment approach in general."