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Raw Paleo Diet Forums => Off Topic => Topic started by: raw-al on May 31, 2013, 08:38:12 am
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I think we got a live one here folks.
So what do we do if this $100,000 a year with 10 or12 children loses their job, ..... maybe shoot the children?
http://dailycurrant.com/2013/05/28/gina-rinehart-calls-for-sterilization-of-the-poor/ (http://dailycurrant.com/2013/05/28/gina-rinehart-calls-for-sterilization-of-the-poor/)
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She's painting herself as a target for retribution by her own "underclass".
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"I believe that any couple making less than $100,000 a year should be forcibly sterilized through a vasectomy or fallopian tubal ligation. Those earning more than $100,000 a year should be encouraged to have as many as 10 or 12 children.
I don't get this step-function math. If a couple is earning $99,000/year, we zap 'em. But if they make another buck per year, they can go whole hog and pop out at even dozen. Is that dozen good up to $199,000, then you can go for 2 dozen kids? Or do you have to wait logarithmically for the next income step, that would be $1,000,000/year for 2 dozen kids. Or did I get that backwards: $200,000/year for 144 children.
Geesh, I have a degree in mathematics. I should be able to figure this one out.
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I don't get this step-function math. If a couple is earning $99,000/year, we zap 'em. But if they make another buck per year, they can go whole hog and pop out at even dozen. Is that dozen good up to $199,000, then you can go for 2 dozen kids? Or do you have to wait logarithmically for the next income step, that would be $1,000,000/year for 2 dozen kids. Or did I get that backwards: $200,000/year for 144 children.
Geesh, I have a degree in mathematics. I should be able to figure this one out.
I think you'd need more than a math degree to figure that one out.
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I like the response from another YG
"Easy to see how the French revolution started. Off with their heads!
Time to sharpen up our axes ;-) "
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Oh Oh
Looks like that may be a satirical news site. Not sure.
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its hardto tell these days because everything going is a joke on us in reality. THe elites are laughing real hard now trust me.
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What we really need to solve the overpopulation problem and simultaneously improve breeding stock is to sterilize every person who's below 110 IQ points. Wealth is an irrelevance as a factor.
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What we really need to solve the overpopulation problem and simultaneously improve breeding stock is to sterilize every person who's below 110 IQ points. Wealth is an irrelevance as a factor.
Are "they" doing this now in the UK? How do they go about it?
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What we really need to solve the overpopulation problem and simultaneously improve breeding stock is to sterilize every person who's below 110 IQ points. Wealth is an irrelevance as a factor.
thats quite the control freak mentality. Why cant you jsut let the earth be?
Lets say theres only enough food foor 100 people on earth and suddenly theres 102 people. Will the earth end once that happens or will the two extra people simply die because there isnt enough food for them?
The answer is quite simple.
The earth corrects itself, theres no such thing as too many people because if there were too many they would simply die. No need for people to play god and decide who dies, nature takes care of it.
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There is the issue of quality of life. Sure, the Earth could support another 500 billion people, but only at the cost of destroying all remaining rainforests and other wild areas and forcing everyone to live 10 people to a room etc.. Far better to just cull the human herd of its morons.
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Are "they" doing this now in the UK? How do they go about it?
Sadly it is frowned upon in the UK. But it would solve a lot of problems.
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There is the issue of quality of life. Sure, the Earth could support another 500 billion people, but only at the cost of destroying all remaining rainforests and other wild areas and forcing everyone to live 10 people to a room etc.. Far better to just cull the human herd of its morons.
Who gave you or anyone else the right to decide who is or isnt a moron? Some people really need to know their place. No man has the right to the dispensation of life and death, only god.
You are so quick to take life but if you cant give it why should you be allowed to take? What makes you think you are wise enough to know whether or not someone should live or not. You can not know their purpose or destiny based on an IQ test that is culturally skewed to say the least (some say it is racially skewed).
Maybe my genius IQ makes me intelligent enough to know that you cant put a number on intelligence. Seems quite simple to me.
Quite the Nazi worldview you have to think you can decide who gets to reproduce or live or die. I hate to use the word Nazi though because the Americans , British, and th Commies were all at it before the Nazis but I wanted to use an emotional word so I called you a NAZI!!!
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The claims that IQ tests are culturally skewed are completely bogus and unfounded since they routinely involve maths which is neutral and unbiased in tone. It's just that egalitarians don't like the notion that intelligence can be measured quite accurately, these days, and that, logically, we cannot all have the same level of intelligence as each other.
At any rate, bumping off the stupid has far more potential beneficial effect on the population than bumping off the wealthy, as wealth, unlike intelligence, is an arbitrary concept.
Ah, yes then there's your "reductio ad hitlerum" argument. It's been pointed out that as soon as someone compares his/her opponent to Hitler/the Nazis, then that means the former has lost the argument.
Hhm, strange, you seem to have a high post count but I've never come across "svrn" before. You must have changed your username recently. Care to tell me what it used to be?
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I should add that by "sterilise" I originally meant, of course, simple vasectomy/tube-tying, rather than mass-slaughter or whatever.
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Hhm, strange, you seem to have a high post count but I've never come across "svrn" before. You must have changed your username recently. Care to tell me what it used to be?
TOD, or Troll of The Dungeon.
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thats quite the control freak mentality. Why cant you jsut let the earth be?
Lets say theres only enough food foor 100 people on earth and suddenly theres 102 people. Will the earth end once that happens or will the two extra people simply die because there isnt enough food for them?
The answer is quite simple.
The earth corrects itself, theres no such thing as too many people because if there were too many they would simply die. No need for people to play god and decide who dies, nature takes care of it.
That's not quite how things work.. If there's to many people, not enough food, people kill each other for the food. All the people realize there's only enough for say "100" people. Knowing that they can't all survive, some of them will seek to kill the others. How they would just "die" I don't know. Human behavior says things would end badly.
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Who gave you or anyone else the right to decide who is or isnt a moron? Some people really need to know their place. No man has the right to the dispensation of life and death, only god.
You are so quick to take life but if you cant give it why should you be allowed to take? What makes you think you are wise enough to know whether or not someone should live or not. You can not know their purpose or destiny based on an IQ test that is culturally skewed to say the least (some say it is racially skewed).
Maybe my genius IQ makes me intelligent enough to know that you cant put a number on intelligence. Seems quite simple to me.
Quite the Nazi worldview you have to think you can decide who gets to reproduce or live or die. I hate to use the word Nazi though because the Americans , British, and th Commies were all at it before the Nazis but I wanted to use an emotional word so I called you a NAZI!!!
Tyler says these things all the time.
Yet he was the one who started this raw paleo diet forum and yahoo groups saving many of our lives.
Wondering when Tyler gets to reproduce or if he would let us know he has to improve the gene pool.
BTW, the change to SVRN is a good one. "troll" instinctively kicks in a combative emotion from readers.
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Yes thanks for pointing that out to me earlier. Hopefully people will forget my old username son enough as people are still calling me troll.
I understand the whole argument ad hitlerum thing but in this case it is appropriate since you are promoting exactly that which Hitler is most despised for and thats his eugenics policies.
And if IQ tests are so accurate why did I score higher on my second test? Lots of people get much higher scores after studying for the test which is the main proof that its bogus.
I dont think the test is completely meaningless though. I believe that the fact that the worlds IQ has been constantly dropping for the past few decades i definitly indicative of a serious problem.
And as far as your concern for violence after overpopulation starts becoming a problem your answer is to monopolize the violence so that you or a government get to decide who it is that gets violence committed against them.
I wonder if my belief in "conspiracy theories" (which in reality every person on earth believes in) would deem me as mentally unfit to reproduce. Im sure that those in charge would view me as being detrimental to society at large for having such views even though my IQ is very high.
For more information on the overpopulation myth and its origins read the now rediculously inaccurate writings of malthus, the chief pioneer of eugenics for his time. He obviously pulled all of his statistic for overpopulation out of his ass just like the current eugenicists (sorry should call them bioethicisist which is what they changed their name to after the nazis gave eugenics a bad name) .
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Speaking of violence in society,I just read an amazing book on the hiostory of England called http://www.amazon.ca/Time-Travellers-Guide-Medieval-England/dp/1845950992 (http://www.amazon.ca/Time-Travellers-Guide-Medieval-England/dp/1845950992)
In the book the author Ian Mortimer says that in medieval times people or society was generally a lot more violent. He says that this was related to the fact there was a lot of disease and famine which culled the population leaving a lot younger population behind. Since young people tend to be more violent without the moderating effect of older people around this explains the violence.
Personally I don't think culling the population will ever be necessary because at some point disease will do it, despite our best efforts. Modern Allopathic medicines have long passed the zenith of what they are capable, so they will not be much help in stopping.
People in developed countries tend to have fewer children and it is a well known fact that as people get a better standard of living their # of progeny reduce.
As far as food production I believe the that organic methods of food production that have been studied in India (I believe) are the way of the future.
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To understand the Biological Effect of all living organisms is to understand populations. When a plant is stressed, it stops growing, ceases putting on leaves and places all its energy into one thing---seed production. This is true in human population. When a culture/community/area is stressed by war, famine, weather, instability; these people will focus their remaining energy into reproduction. We can remove the stress through taking care of the earth, taking ownership of its health. . .and then, the earth returns its bounty to all. We have done a terrible job teaching the future generations how to care for the earth---so they don't. And therefore, they don't care for themselves and life is not precious and the stress becomes unbearable. It is time to connect with our food source and heal all things so that balance is restored.
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Hmm, it is true that one can improve a little bit on IQ tests if one studies them enough. That said, they are a good rule of thumb re rough measurement of intelligence if not 100% exact, and a dividing-line of 110 IQ could lead to sterilisation of c. 2/3 of the world's population, thus solving overpopulation. Malthus, incidentally, was quite right, not in stating that the world could not support so many billions of people, but in that the standard of living has crashed in order to support all those many humans. For example, most of us humans now live in tiny, cramped appartments within over-concreted, overpolluted cities, are unable to exercise as much as our palaeo ancestors did, are fed on crappy cooked diets etc. etc.
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TD,
People chose to live in said apartments. I don't. We have 3/4 of an acre.
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To understand the Biological Effect of all living organisms is to understand populations. When a plant is stressed, it stops growing, ceases putting on leaves and places all its energy into one thing---seed production. This is true in human population. When a culture/community/area is stressed by war, famine, weather, instability; these people will focus their remaining energy into reproduction. We can remove the stress through taking care of the earth, taking ownership of its health. . .and then, the earth returns its bounty to all. We have done a terrible job teaching the future generations how to care for the earth---so they don't. And therefore, they don't care for themselves and life is not precious and the stress becomes unbearable. It is time to connect with our food source and heal all things so that balance is restored.
best first post ever. Hope to ehar more form you.
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TD,
People chose to live in said apartments. I don't. We have 3/4 of an acre.
amen. Let them rot if thats their choice. Theres plenty of people with under 110 IQ who live completely self sufficient lives are not bothering anyone. WHy should they be sterilized?
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TD,
People chose to live in said apartments. I don't. We have 3/4 of an acre.
Not really. Take me for example. I used to live in the UK which has a population density at least 12 times as much as the US. Finding a decent place to live in in the London area was always a real problem. Point is your 3/4 of an acre will eventually become a 1/10th of an acre or less as world population increases dramatically.
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amen. Let them rot if thats their choice. Theres plenty of people with under 110 IQ who live completely self sufficient lives are not bothering anyone. Why should they be sterilized?
But most ARE bothering others through dragging down the educational system, thus forcing up costs, then there's the extra medical bills involved in keeping the severely retarded alive. By reducing the number of future morons we are helping to vastly decrease the size of the State. For example, in Italy, the municipios/local councils are routinely and deliberately filled with the intellectually-disadvantaged, thus slowing down response-times etc. Imagine if such offices were all staffed with people of 110 IQ+. More to the point, sterilisation is quite humane, just involving the severing/tying of particular tubes.
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Tyler, just tell the uk govt to stop the flow of immigrants.
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Tyler, just tell the uk govt to stop the flow of immigrants.
Well, that's one option. But this is not just a UK matter. Whatever the case, we need to have something akin to natural selection in the wild, and using vasectomies/tube-tying on the mentally-disadvantaged does help in this regard. There's an ominous SF story by Fred Pohl which predicts a future in which every human eventually gets born with multiple birth-defects, low intelligence and short-sightedness etc. etc. simply because modern medicine gradually allowed more and more people to be born who otherwise would have died before reproducing.
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"modern (american/western) medicine" is actually on your eugenics side sabotaging people and teaching the complete opposite of health and condemning people to death and babies with their vaccines, etc.
The low IQ people you speak of actually follow the "medical" idiocy.
Only the high IQs manage to run away and see through the medical lies.
Modern medicine is doing it's best to kill people. Look at all the infertility, contraceptives, abortions, sex selections going on. You guys should be happy.
Look at how they euthanize old people in the hospitals.
The low IQ people follow the medical diet of SAD.
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Modern medicine allows people to live much longer, it's just that it is more of a lingering decline until death. And increasing infertility is being combatted by ghastly IVF and other techniques which allow people with a very low sperm-count to have children who otherwise couldn't, etc.
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Well, that's one option. But this is not just a UK matter. Whatever the case, we need to have something akin to natural selection in the wild, and using vasectomies/tube-tying on the mentally-disadvantaged does help in this regard. There's an ominous SF story by Fred Pohl which predicts a future in which every human eventually gets born with multiple birth-defects, low intelligence and short-sightedness etc. etc. simply because modern medicine gradually allowed more and more people to be born who otherwise would have died before reproducing.
yes we need to have natural selection like in the wild. Eugenics in which you decide who lives and dies is the opposite of natural selection. It is artificial selection and breeding.
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The current problem of the loud mouths who cry depopulation for the feeble is that they the supposedly smart ones cannot even muster themselves to reproduce.
They themselves do not have the drive nor the ambition to reproduce. They cannot create lives of their own blood but have so much plans for destruction of others.
Oh I see classic cases among my former class mates... it's the childless people berating those with children.
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Destruction is easy for those who want to feel powerful
But to build your own race and promote your values the natural way is too much for some people so they want to use violence to control the world.
I only hope that one of tylers defects get him sterilized one day so that he personally understands the horror he wants to unleash on the world. Maybe theyll label his raw animal food consumtion as a defect and cut his tubes.
By the way, if it wasnt for all the immigrants uk population would be declining rapidly.
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Modern medicine allows people to live much longer, it's just that it is more of a lingering decline until death. And increasing infertility is being combatted by ghastly IVF and other techniques which allow people with a very low sperm-count to have children who otherwise couldn't, etc.
That is not true IMHO. People have access to more food which prevents starvation. Cleanliness has reduced the likelihood of plagues. People are also more aware of safety when out in public or working.
You are right about the lingering deaths from Allopathic drugs.
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yes we need to have natural selection like in the wild. Eugenics in which you decide who lives and dies is the opposite of natural selection. It is artificial selection and breeding.
Not necessarily. One could do some natural selection like the Spartans did, which was to expose babies in the open for a few days to see whether they would survive.Plus, posing intelligence tests does not really mean the tester determines who dies but the testee since he/she is the one who makes the results, in the end. Anyway, no one is talking about killing/dying , just simple vasectomies/tube-tying while letting said patients live on to a natural end of a lifespan, nothing more.
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"modern (american/western) medicine" is actually on your eugenics side sabotaging people and teaching the complete opposite of health and condemning people to death and babies with their vaccines, etc.
The low IQ people you speak of actually follow the "medical" idiocy.
Only the high IQs manage to run away and see through the medical lies.
Modern medicine is doing it's best to kill people. Look at all the infertility, contraceptives, abortions, sex selections going on. You guys should be happy.
Look at how they euthanize old people in the hospitals.
The low IQ people follow the medical diet of SAD.
True
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That is not true IMHO. People have access to more food which prevents starvation. Cleanliness has reduced the likelihood of plagues. People are also more aware of safety when out in public or working.
You are right about the lingering deaths from Allopathic drugs.
People have access to more LOW-QUALITY foods. In the future, with increasing overpopulation, we will be forced to eat soya-based crap or genetically-modified wheat rather than grassfed meats etc.So, yes, we will survive, like I said, but with an ever-decreasing lower quality of life.
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Not necessarily. One could do some natural selection like the Spartans did, which was to expose babies in the open for a few days to see whether they would survive.Plus, posing intelligence tests does not really mean the tester determines who dies but the testee since he/she is the one who makes the results, in the end. Anyway, no one is talking about killing/dying , just simple vasectomies/tube-tying while letting said patients live on to a natural end of a lifespan, nothing more.
Maybe you are right TD. Except you could do it this way: Anyone living in an urban area where you cannot get 2/3 of an acre to live on would be subject to selective culling ie sterilization.
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People have access to more LOW-QUALITY foods. In the future, with increasing overpopulation, we will be forced to eat soya-based crap or genetically-modified wheat rather than grassfed meats etc.So, yes, we will survive, like I said, but with an ever-decreasing lower quality of life.
No argument from me re: quality, but people can actually survive off of eating just about anything as was done in the past during famines. Survive being the operative word. That's why grains are so popular
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If theres people that are a part of your society and you think are a strain on your community thats fine if you want to sterilize them.
But for those of us who want nothing to do with society and are self sufficient, please leave us alone.
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Maybe you are right TD. Except you could do it this way: Anyone living in an urban area where you cannot get 2/3 of an acre to live on would be subject to selective culling ie sterilization.
I have access to an area rather bigger than that, so no worries... But the point is that IQ is a far better measure of personal worth than beauty or wealth or living-space.
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If theres people that are a part of your society and you think are a strain on your community thats fine if you want to sterilize them.
But for those of us who want nothing to do with society and are self sufficient, please leave us alone.
No one is truly self-sufficient, nowadays.
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tell that to the amish.
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Soylent Green is a really good movie.
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Soylent Green is a really good movie.
Ahh yes, that could be our future...... Solve the overpopulation problem by bumping off all those with more than 2 children and then serve them in biscuit form to solve any future famines in the world. >D :P 8)
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lebensunwertes leben
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you should also know that a lot of people have low iqs because of vaccines/pharmaceuticals/diet. A lot of kids becaome autistic after their vaccines an some get just very low iqs after their vaccinations.
Lots of people fix this problem on a raw diet (raw milk is very popular in the alternative healing community for autistic kids) and their kids iqs go way up afterwards as a result.
Iq of the world has also been constantly dropping every year over the past few decades which is another indication that many people have lowered iqs due to the biological warfare they have been subjected to.
My thinking abilities are personally much better after going raw. i didnt have an iq test since then but im sure I would score higher than before I went raw, I would be interesting to take the test again and make sure.
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Iq of the world has also been constantly dropping every year over the past few decades which is another indication that many people have lowered iqs due to the biological warfare they have been subjected to.
Not really.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect
Any country that would implement TD's idea would probably become a leading country in the world in 100-200 years.
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Lovely, so we'd have PHds collecting garbage.
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Ahh yes, that could be our future...... Solve the overpopulation problem by bumping off all those with more than 2 children and then serve them in biscuit form to solve any future famines in the world. >D :P 8)
lOL
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Its not funny. Its already legal to serve fetuses in china for the rich. Its considered a delicacy there.
And china is the model state for the world according to the un. so maybe youll get your perverse dream soon enough.
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Lovely, so we'd have PHds collecting garbage.
110 is not some limit for genius level IQ, but for slightly above average.
75% of all people have IQ below 110. 0.1% of all people are scientists/researchers.
So you're slightly wrong...
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Its not funny. Its already legal to serve fetuses in china for the rich. Its considered a delicacy there.
And china is the model state for the world according to the un. so maybe youll get your perverse dream soon enough.
Japan's population is on the decline and has been so since 2008. And since they have no immigrants coming in, that is Tyler's better model. Better yet with Fukushima, that will hit big in fertility and damaging their current children.
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The depopulationists have been very successful the past 50+ years. See NSSM 200.
What we have now is the awakening of a few people to these depopulationist tactics and the conscious will to make every FUCK count.
REAL FUCKING today is like a rebellion against the contraceptive depopulationist imperialism. Having many babies is a damn rebellion already. Hiding your babies from the depopulation masters is the rebellion today. Speak not of how many women and children you have for their own safety.
Scare us with AIDS? You want me to use condoms? UN-SAFE sex?
-- well FUCKING WITHOUT condoms every time is the rebellious thing to do
-- FUCKING during FERTILE (unsafe) time in the woman's cycle is THE BOMB
-- eating a high fertility, enhancing fertility diet is the bomb
-- and FUCKING and impregnating at 18,19,20,21,22,23 is poking the eye of the giant depopulation idiocy
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Lovely, so we'd have PHds collecting garbage.
No we would have PHds creating computer software that enables robots to collect the garbage.
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Its not funny. Its already legal to serve fetuses in china for the rich. Its considered a delicacy there.
And china is the model state for the world according to the un. so maybe youll get your perverse dream soon enough.
I like China. They used to go in for the notion of sterilising the mentally-handicapped, went in for selling the organs of convicted criminals etc., and their "one-child" policy was a remarkably noble, moral incentive, given other backwards nations refusing to implement responsible birth-control etc. Sadly, the first splendid notion got banned due to blasted Amnesty International and similiar Libtard organisations.
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110 is not some limit for genius level IQ, but for slightly above average.
75% of all people have IQ below 110. 0.1% of all people are scientists/researchers.
So you're slightly wrong...
PHDs do not only exist for scientists, but for Humanities students etc. The point of 110 IQ as a level is that it improves the general average, being slightly above average itself, so that far more people would be intelligent than otherwise.
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-- well FUCKING WITHOUT condoms every time is the rebellious thing to do
-- FUCKING during FERTILE (unsafe) time in the woman's cycle is THE BOMB
-- eating a high fertility, enhancing fertility diet is the bomb
-- and FUCKING and impregnating at 18,19,20,21,22,23 is poking the eye of the giant depopulation idiocy
That's a great way to spread Venereal Disease. I rather like the Japan model as Japan has already been way overpopulated for many decades. Why can't we all go back to the depopulated Wild West that NA had in the olden days.I wish I'd been a 19th century colonist in Australia/New Zealand or the US/Canada or even Argentina. Of course, it would have meant "displacing/ethnically-cleansing" a few natives, but what the hell......
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No we would have PHds creating computer software that enables robots to collect the garbage.
That's a silly utopian dream, rather like the (Jetson's) airplane in every garage one. At a certain point the # of airplanes gets ridiculous and very dangerous as the air traffic levels get to the point of over saturation due to space limitations, not to mention noise pollution. The danger too ominous. If everyone in London had an airplane where would they park and land them?
(Now he's going to invoke the alien transportation devices, space ships, anti-gravity, warp speed engines, you watch everyone l) LOL http://www.truthcontrol.com/forum/alien-spaceships-attack-earth-november-2012 (http://www.truthcontrol.com/forum/alien-spaceships-attack-earth-november-2012) )
Sort of like how computers were going to create a paperless society. Yeah right!
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No we would have PHds creating computer software that enables robots to collect the garbage.
As it is, PHds are now collecting garbage, because it's better than being unemployed and the pay is better than a lot of academic BS work. Having a PHd is not an indicator of ability to design robots. If your PHd thesis is on the mating habits of raccoon fleas then maybe you qualify as a raccoon catcher.
At a certain point in life you start to realize that people of all intelligence levels are necessary to make the world go 'round. The rich, poor, smart, dumb, SAD eaters and Raw diners.
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That's a great way to spread Venereal Disease.
Run of the mill depopulation imperialist's mis-education to push fear and contraceptives.
Be afraid of REAL SEX... the bogeyman VD / STD is gonna get you... REAL SEX is dangerous.... wooooo... REAL SEX is not "SAFE SEX"... ha ha ha ha ha.
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Personally I don't think culling the population will ever be necessary because at some point disease will do it, despite our best efforts. Modern Allopathic medicines have long passed the zenith of what they are capable, so they will not be much help in stopping.
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/311366/pinoyabroad/news/with-coronavirus-threat-dfa-urges-campers-in-saudi-to-move-into-phl-govt-shelters (http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/311366/pinoyabroad/news/with-coronavirus-threat-dfa-urges-campers-in-saudi-to-move-into-phl-govt-shelters)
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That's a silly utopian dream, rather like the (Jetson's) airplane in every garage one. At a certain point the # of airplanes gets ridiculous and very dangerous as the air traffic levels get to the point of over saturation due to space limitations, not to mention noise pollution. The danger too ominous. If everyone in London had an airplane where would they park and land them?
(Now he's going to invoke the alien transportation devices, space ships, anti-gravity, warp speed engines, you watch everyone l) LOL http://www.truthcontrol.com/forum/alien-spaceships-attack-earth-november-2012 (http://www.truthcontrol.com/forum/alien-spaceships-attack-earth-november-2012) )
Sort of like how computers were going to create a paperless society. Yeah right!
Not silly at all. Robots are already being used in warfare re drones etc. Using them for rubbish-collection isn't unlikely at all and relatively simple to manage.
No one need an airplane for every family. Larry Niven's SF short story "Flash Crowd" talks about a future society with instant-transportation/matter-transportation booths which wipe out all airlines/cars etc. except for recreation-purposes.
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;D
Not silly at all. Robots are already being used in warfare re drones etc. Using them for rubbish-collection isn't unlikely at all and relatively simple to manage.
To quote a person I have read.....rubbish!
There is a certain amount of cost involved in any robot device. Robot aircraft have been around for a long time because the market is so large and thus the costs can be justified. They are used for locating minerals etc in remote areas, doing flying that is dangerous and flying into dangerous military zones to take out enemies or observe them because basically it is suicide to do it any other way.
Rubbish collection on the other hand has been automated to a certain degree but it is still labour intensive as someone must drive the truck, unless you want to get into very expensive non-driver vehicles with their attendant safety issues. Yes I know there are automatically driven vehicles out there, but I doubt they will obtain other driver acceptance for quite awhile.
My point is that aside from books which can make up any scenario they want because it is free to give full rein to your imagination, all these devices require money to develop and maintain. Anything is possible, but 'likely', is another quantum leap
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No one need an airplane for every family. Larry Niven's SF short story "Flash Crowd" talks about a future society with instant-transportation/matter-transportation booths which wipe out all airlines/cars etc. except for recreation-purposes.
I can just see it now...
Damn it, my son only half made it through the transportation booth. Shoot I have lost most of my family this week. Have to call the 'repair robot'. ;D
My neighbour is now half Limey and half Canuck due to a software glitch. :o
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The depopulationists are successful.
It is the urbanization of the human living condition that is the main culprit though.
Just like in Roman Times from 0 to 200 ad... we will have our own human population decline on a global scale this time around in the next 200 or so years.
It's happening right now in every urban city, majority of which have below replacement level fertility.
So what is it going to be for you (us here in the forum)? Will your blood line die off? Or will you find a way for your blood line to survive and thrive?
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So what is it going to be for you (us here in the forum)? Will your blood line die off? Or will you find a way for your blood line to survive and thrive?
Hey that'd make a great pick-up line at a bar ;D
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I like my sex like I like my food...raw
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and when will you people learn. when you try to make a utopia all you get is abloodbath.
but itll be different this time...yeah right
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Raw-al you just shot down your argument by mentioning those self-drive cars. We are now increasingly facing a world run by robots with most humans being unemployed, as in the world of 2000AD Judge Dredd comics. As a result, it would be best for the world to be more depopulated to take that into account.
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and you think tis just a coincidence that everything in sci-fi movies is coming true?
Its no coincidence, the technique is called predictive programming and they been forcing this sci fi crap down our throats since weve been babies so that we accept it once it happense because our subconcious view these things as being perfectly natural because youve already been though it before in movie form.
Thats why the big scifi writers of the 20th century were all paid big bucks to write the stories they wrote and they knew exactly what they were doing.
what are your views on transhumanism? Do you look forward to accepting the brain chip?
For more insight into this read hg wells' non fiction work the open conspiracy in which he discusses this plan which he was a part of.
(1of6) Alan Watt - Predictive Programming Theory and Practice 1of2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKAVAyqRyKE#)
you are probably a victim of this predictive programming based on your infatuation with these perverse futurist concepts.
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Raw-al you just shot down your argument by mentioning those self-drive cars. We are now increasingly facing a world run by robots with most humans being unemployed, as in the world of 2000AD Judge Dredd comics. As a result, it would be best for the world to be more depopulated to take that into account.
I have a GPS. It's my second one. Nice big screen and a ton of useless options. My first one I bought in Manhattan and when my wife was looking for something in the back seat, I had time to turn it on and set it up to take us to Yale U. in Hartford CT. We were in a hotel about a block from Times Square.
However that little monster has taken me down some wild goose chases in smaller areas of the country. I spent about 3-4 hours waiting for a tow truck to rescue us from one excursion, that was a 'shortcut'. One aircraft that I flew was set up for an approach into an airport in Northern Canada when suddenly the computer screens and the autopilot disconnected, and it started flashing red in emergency flashing mode close to the ground (we were in cloud) because something was programmed into it incorrectly.
Recently we were following the GPS in the car when it took us on a road that it computed as a 'shortcut'. While I was driving I noticed the roads were getting smaller and I happened to get a desire to show my wife some of the options programmed in. I was showing her the information section when I noticed to my horror that we were on a road where the next gas station would be in about 160 km. We had about 50 km worth of gas left. Computers and robots have limitations and they are not likely to lose them for a long time.
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Not silly at all. Robots are already being used in warfare re drones etc. Using them for rubbish-collection isn't unlikely at all and relatively simple to manage.
There'll always be a necessity for someone "to take the piss".
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I cant tell you how many timres the gps has fucked me over.
Robots running everything would surely be a disaster
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Raw-al you just shot down your argument by mentioning those self-drive cars. We are now increasingly facing a world run by robots with most humans being unemployed, as in the world of 2000AD Judge Dredd comics. As a result, it would be best for the world to be more depopulated to take that into account.
Thought you might like a look. Not sure if this is actual or an animation,but it looks fascinating. http://www.flixxy.com/volkswagen-levitating-car.htm (http://www.flixxy.com/volkswagen-levitating-car.htm)
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That electromagnetic technology is how they run bullet trains. The roadway would have to be pretty high-tech - or use a lot of electricity - to allow for freedom of direction (unlike train tracks).
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That electromagnetic technology is how they run bullet trains. The roadway would have to be pretty high-tech - or use a lot of electricity - to allow for freedom of direction (unlike train tracks).
In the vid they mention that there is certain minerals in the ground in that town.
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I just read else where that it is a computer animation
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and you think tis just a coincidence that everything in sci-fi movies is coming true?
Its no coincidence, the technique is called predictive programming and they been forcing this sci fi crap down our throats since weve been babies so that we accept it once it happens because our subconcious view these things as being perfectly natural because youve already been though it before in movie form.
Thats why the big scifi writers of the 20th century were all paid big bucks to write the stories they wrote and they knew exactly what they were doing.
what are your views on transhumanism? Do you look forward to accepting the brain chip?
For more insight into this read hg wells' non fiction work the open conspiracy in which he discusses this plan which he was a part of.
you are probably a victim of this predictive programming based on your infatuation with these perverse futurist concepts.
Here is an android playing with what looks like an I Pod while thoroughly dominating a more primal and primitive organism.
Data and a Klingon funny scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKQDRxs5Nzk#)
I was inundated with this kind of "predictive programing" growing up, along with millions of others, and it must have some effect on our conceptions of reality. The futuristic programing within science fiction can give one the sense of an inevitable progression of technology toward a plethora of possible scenarios. Yet many of the more draconian projections are not inevitable.
Right now there are Super Computers being built with calculating capacities beyond comprehension. Imagine a thinking machine with the capacity to engineer entirely new worlds and civilizations then apply these simulations into the real world. It could be virtual heaven or virtual hell, all depending on which direction those who control the machines wish to boldly go.
Must there be an imperative devaluation of human life for the advancement of this futuristic world? Each individual human beings potential and the value of human life cant be measured by the computations of machines. The more advanced the technocracy becomes, the further away from real life it becomes and the less concerned with the value of individual human life it becomes . Consequently data acquired regarding human worth aggregated by such utilitarian organizations will be suspect.
Machine men with machine minds seem to easily fall prey to Malthusian fantasy, and even have the nerve to publicly suggest that substandard human beings bee sterilized for the greater good.
This is limited thinking in my opinion, caused by a lack of understanding regarding the underlying environmental causes of the worlds perceived problems {such as} The lowering of IQs, and the using up of the worlds resources by the unwashed brainwashed masses. These problems are factual from a certain perspective and feed into the delusion that the only reasonable solution is to cull the population, and establish some form of scientifically controlled regulation of all of human activity.
If that limited view of reality is allowed to stand uncontested and continues to be the projected zeitgeist then it will indeed become the new reality. The hope of mine is to be found in a broader view that I see emerging from the fringes of the new science. So many great things are happening. The plasticity of the human mind and body to be molded by its environment is becoming more universally understood and needs to be the focus Eugenic endeavors, instead of just culling off humans who have become defective or are just obsolete and trying to scientifically engineer superior traits. The future is bright with the infinite possibilities of Quantum reality.
Behold, the awesome power of our collective minds to link together and project a greater reality....
If the environmental factors involved in the problems of our time are not properly addressed it doesn't matter what the eugenicist do, humanity will be screwed . It wouldn't matter all but the brightest two present where shot of into space tomorrow, the remaining population would continue to degenerate and their higher faculties would atrophy unless the degrading factors caused by living in an artificial environment are promptly addressed. Once you become insulated from nature by technology, the natural means of retaining sharpness in body and mind will be lost from lack of use.