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Title: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: raw on July 09, 2012, 10:48:54 pm
Please, watchout this video and learn the truth abouth cancers and the options of treatments.
What is Dr.Burzynski's antineoplaston therapy? This guy only treat the advanced level of brain cancers and lung cancer (terminal patients). We already know some other cure of other types of cancers . I am curious to learn more. Why he uses to synthesize the synthetic version of antineoplaston in his clinic for his patients? Still he treats brain cancer, lung cancer very successfully. Please, share here ur opinion on this therapy or what do u know about. I am not emphasising here the diet. We already know the effect s of good diet, but want to learn the antineolpaston therapy which has no side effects.

A Cancer Cure 40 years ago (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BH9XTxb290#ws)
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: Dorothy on July 09, 2012, 11:07:47 pm
The truth is simpler and you don't need this expensive and complicated therapy to easily eradicate cancer. You can do it at home cheaply.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: Projectile Vomit on July 09, 2012, 11:30:23 pm
Dorothy hit the nail on the head, I think. This video is about one profit-seeker in the cancer industry attempting to take market share from other profit-seekers who currently have a monopoly. Why not look beyond profit-seeking treatments to the underlying issues of lifestyle that actually cause cancer? Things like poor diet, stress, environmental pollution? The latter approach is the real gold mine, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: goodsamaritan on July 09, 2012, 11:44:58 pm
Come one guys.  I also do home cancer treatments at www.curemanual.com (http://www.curemanual.com)

But there are many different people out there with different points of views or stages in their education... so guys like Burzynski are a boon to some of them.  There are many other options for true cancer cure out there.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: raw on July 10, 2012, 12:09:29 am
What is Dr.Burzynski's antineoplaston therapy? This guy only treat the advanced level of brain cancers and lung cancer (terminal patients). We already know some other cure of other types of cancers . I am curious to learn more. Why he uses to synthesize the synthetic version of antineoplaston in his clinic for his patients? Still he treats brain cancer, lung cancer very successfully. Please, share here ur opinion on this therapy or what do u know about. I am not emphasising here the diet. We already know the effect s of good diet, but want to learn the antineolpaston therapy which has no side effects.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: Projectile Vomit on July 10, 2012, 12:12:24 am
A proper diet has no side effects either. Why focus on a commercial therapy that you have to pay extra for when perhaps the same benefit comes with eating and living well?
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: raw on July 10, 2012, 12:19:52 am
So how many people do u know after they get advance form of brain and lung cancers, they servive on only good diet and other natural treatment? Here focus on only brain cancer and lung cancer in advance level
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: aLptHW4k4y on July 10, 2012, 12:21:46 am
Yes Eric, do you really believe that proper diet can cure brain/lung cancers?
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: Dorothy on July 10, 2012, 12:42:31 am
Dorothy hit the nail on the head, I think. This video is about one profit-seeker in the cancer industry attempting to take market share from other profit-seekers who currently have a monopoly. Why not look beyond profit-seeking treatments to the underlying issues of lifestyle that actually cause cancer? Things like poor diet, stress, environmental pollution? The latter approach is the real gold mine, in my opinion.

All that Eric says is true and I'm not trying to say that what this man id doing is bad in and of itself. For people that need an MD and don't feel like their getting anything without giving a professional a lot of money what he does is important. I'd say the most powerfully important thing he has done however is to demonstrated that even a well-respected MD with amazing results and accreditations is being repressed and attacked therefore it's not a far jump to believe that things that NO ONE can make money are being suppressed.  He's doing important work to show that the medical/political industry is against real cures for cancer.

I don't mean to say that diet alone will cure any cancer - BUT - diet along with other alternative therapies will do it unless the person is so far gone that too much organ damage is done or they really want to die. The reason I am saying this is so that EVERYONE here can let go of their fear of cancer.

Proper diet will prevent most cancers, add to that powerful supportive remedies and on top of that remedies if one gets cancer that can be delivered to your door for pennies that will eradicate it - spread that word - and the cancer industry dies because they will no longer have fear on their side.

When it comes to cancer it's not IF there are a whole array of natural treatments at all levels of expense that work - it's which one to choose that is the bigger decision-and which ones you can still access before they have been made illegal or shut down. This man's therapy is just one of MANY therapies that work.

The thing about eating raw paleo as the base to prevent and treat cancer is that it not only does that, but also builds health and strength generally. That is often overlooked in the fear mongering that is going on. Get rid of the tumor at any cost is the way it is looked at - which makes no sense.

Here's a quote from a great cancer resource - cancertutor.com:

Quote
A Story

Suppose you own an antique dining room table which is worth many tens of thousands of dollars. Suppose your butler tells you that there are dozens of cockroaches crawling around on your priceless table and you will be having dinner guests in one hour.

Your butler informs you that his job description does not include killing cockroaches and as he is leaving your house he suggests four options for getting rid of the cockroaches:
1) He suggests you use a chainsaw to "slash" the little critters to pieces,
2) He suggests you use a large and powerful flamethrower to "burn" the critters to pieces,
3) He suggests you pour 2 gallons of a highly, highly toxic liquid chemical on the table to "poison" the critters, and
4) He suggests you use an old $1 flyswatter.

Which of the four options would you use to get rid of the cockroaches? Would you choose one of the first three options (slash, burn and poison) because they are highly potent at killing cockroaches or would you choose the cheap, wimpy flyswatter?

Think about why you would make your choice.

Most likely you would pick the flyswatter because the other three items (which are far more powerful than a flyswatter at killing cockroaches) are also massively powerful at destroying your priceless table!!

Chemotherapy (the toxic chemical above), surgery (the chainsaw above) and radiation (the flamethrower above) do kill cancer cells, but they also kill healthy cells (the priceless antique table), damage the immune system, damage the ability of your digestive tract to process nutrients, etc. because they do not target cancer cells. Thus, these treatments cannot cure cancer (which has spread) without killing the patient first.

By comparison, alternative cancer treatments (the flyswatter), while not as powerful as the other items, are far more effective at treating cancer because these treatments either target cancer cells or do not damage your healthy cells, Thus they can be given in much higher doses than any of the "orthodox" cancer treatments. For example, a person can drink a quart of carrot juice but they cannot drink a quart of chemotherapy!!

In addition to the ability to use high doses, the many alternative cancer treatments can generally be combined.

End of Story
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: Dorothy on July 10, 2012, 12:44:18 am
So how many people do u know after they get advance form of brain and lung cancers, they servive on only good diet and other natural treatment? Here focus on only brain cancer and lung cancer in advance level

Proper diet ALONG with other protocols absolutely does cure brain and lung cancer. I healed my mother's pancreatic cancer and she was 84 and had every other disease in the book. Her cancer ended up being the easiest of our problems to fix and I know others who have cured inoperable brain tumors with only alternative means.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: raw on July 10, 2012, 12:58:57 am
Dorothy, I'd like to know about the people with advance lung cancer and brain cancer. Please, share here what stage the person was on with brain cancer and how he cured that?
It's amazing to hear about ur mom and how u work for ur mom. She is just blessed to have a daughther like u. I'd love to read all of ur other posts. Thank u for sharing.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: goodsamaritan on July 10, 2012, 02:09:34 am
Here is my friend curing advanced brain tumors of extremely poor people who are already deaf, blind, cannot walk... But after only 2 hours of zapping... Walked out by themselves...

http://www.curemanual.com/2012/05/brain-tumor-treatment-options-1st-priority-zapping-for-2-to-3-hours-or-more-with-vander-gaditano/ (http://www.curemanual.com/2012/05/brain-tumor-treatment-options-1st-priority-zapping-for-2-to-3-hours-or-more-with-vander-gaditano/)
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: Dorothy on July 10, 2012, 03:06:39 am
Dorothy, I'd like to know about the people with advance lung cancer and brain cancer. Please, share here what stage the person was on with brain cancer and how he cured that?
It's amazing to hear about ur mom and how u work for ur mom. She is just blessed to have a daughther like u. I'd love to read all of ur other posts. Thank u for sharing.

Do you know someone with this kind of cancer raw that you are trying to help?

Most cancers are similar in a couple of things. First, what kills people is that the cancer spread which is easy to stop with pectasol-c. Secondly, they grow, which is also pretty easy to slow done if not stop completely and reverse if you stop feeding the cancers. Only with cancers like brain and pancreatic cancer are the tumors themselves usually dangerous because they interfere with important biological functions. Stopping spreading and growing alone buy you much time which is what you need to build up the body and fight. The thing that doctors use against you is fear about how much "time" you have. It's so easy to at the very least throw away those timed death sentences.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: Dorothy on July 10, 2012, 03:12:20 am
Here is my friend curing advanced brain tumors of extremely poor people who are already deaf, blind, cannot walk... But after only 2 hours of zapping... Walked out by themselves...

http://www.curemanual.com/2012/05/brain-tumor-treatment-options-1st-priority-zapping-for-2-to-3-hours-or-more-with-vander-gaditano/ (http://www.curemanual.com/2012/05/brain-tumor-treatment-options-1st-priority-zapping-for-2-to-3-hours-or-more-with-vander-gaditano/)


fascinating GS - With the patients this poor - were they able to do cat scans before and after to show if the tumors changed?

I first learned about healing cancer naturally by a colleague in Florida who healed his wife's late stage untreatable brain tumor with natural means. He shared the list of things he did, but I don't have it here with me now. One of them was giving his wife baths with h202 in it I remember and lots of different supplements. 
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: raw-al on July 10, 2012, 03:32:59 am
A lot of good posts.

I am with Dorothy and GS.

Raw's film was much appreciated.

Medicine is a big money business. That's no big shock.

There are many cures around. The more I look into alternative medical modalities the more I am convinced that allopathic medicine is a scam.

Cancer cures abound but one thing I know to be pretty accurate...... you can cure the cancer easily, but you have to stop the cause, which is virtually always diet AFAIAC. I think a raw diet is a giant step in that direction but even baby steps are better, however, everyone is at their own level of knowledge/development.

A friend and his daughter had cancer. They both used a Rife device to cure it, but they still smoke. Chemo failed and they were ready to die, when they discovered the healer who cured them.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: Dorothy on July 10, 2012, 03:47:59 am
A lot of good posts.

I am with Dorothy and GS.

Raw's film was much appreciated.

Medicine is a big money business. That's no big shock.

There are many cures around. The more I look into alternative medical modalities the more I am convinced that allopathic medicine is a scam.

Cancer cures abound but one thing I know to be pretty accurate...... you can cure the cancer easily, but you have to stop the cause, which is virtually always diet AFAIAC. I think a raw diet is a giant step in that direction but even baby steps are better, however, everyone is at their own level of knowledge/development.

A friend and his daughter had cancer. They both used a Rife device to cure it, but they still smoke. Chemo failed and they were ready to die, when they discovered the healer who cured them.
These cures from Al and GS are very cool. What form of cancer did your friend and his daughter have Al? Were the results verified by their doctors?

Yeah - that's the problem with alternative therapies that adopt in a fashion the modern medical model of killing things or manipulating just the symptoms/disease without addressing the cause is that it's still the bandaid approach.

That's why a raw paleo really needs to be at the core if the person isn't just going to get rid of one disease just to get another or not attain real health.

I was able to get rid of my mother's cancer for instance but one of the medical procedures she went through necessitated taking her off of all her good fats which stimulated misdiagnosed Parkinson's Disease and that is what ended up killing her in the end. The hardest part was that no one would believe me that she wasn't going to die from her cancer so I needed help in figuring out what this other problem was. They just saw a woman that only had a few weeks to live until finally almost a year later they finally listened when it was already too late.

The diagnosis itself can be a death sentence when other diseases are no longer taken seriously and if there isn't a diet that can sustain the body and heal it fully then you are not truly healing the person - still just treating symptoms. What I saw happen with my Mom and her central nervous system is a big part of why I am here at this forum talking to you and not still at a vegan forum.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: goodsamaritan on July 10, 2012, 07:05:37 am
fascinating GS - With the patients this poor - were they able to do cat scans before and after to show if the tumors changed?

These people were so poor they were looking for charity healing that can do miracles. So being able to see, being able to hear and being able to walk again was enough proof for them.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: Dorothy on July 10, 2012, 07:26:44 am
These people were so poor they were looking for charity healing that can do miracles. So being able to see, being able to hear and being able to walk again was enough proof for them.


Oh no - I totally get it GS. They got better treatment being poor than the people with millions going to doctors. I was just asking if they had any verifiable results that their cancers were gone.

My mother's doctors said that she must have never had cancer since she would have been dead a long time ago if she did have it. I watched her symptoms and how they reacted to each therapy and it was perfectly clear to me living with her and her GP that she had cancer, but backward thinking works for them. They will do anything not to question the paradigm. Her kidney doctor who was so perplexed why her pancreatic cancer kidney symptoms reversed and I said I know why said that if any alternative were true then everyone would be doing it.

The truth is that they don't want to know because it would turn their world upside down and the bigwigs repress what they can out of greed. That's why I ask about verifiable results - but - still - it doesn't matter much as there have been innumerable cases of verifiable results that are totally ignored, denied, repressed or dismissed.

Cesium is a good example as is the doctor in the video that raw posted.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: goodsamaritan on July 10, 2012, 07:37:04 am
Many people cured of cancers wouldn't go back to medical doctors for any "verification" even if you paid these people.  In the cured people's eyes, it is the medical doctors who are now quacks and medical doctors have lost all credibility.

Like the plumber i taught how to cure himself of terminal liver cancer... He's strong and back at work.  Plus he restored his erections... That is proof enough for him.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: Dorothy on July 10, 2012, 07:43:46 am
Many people cured of cancers wouldn't go back to medical doctors for any "verification" even if you paid these people.  In the cured people's eyes, it is the medical doctors who are now quacks and medical doctors have lost all credibility.

Like the plumber i taught how to cure himself of terminal liver cancer... He's strong and back at work.  Plus he restored his erections... That is proof enough for him.


Yeah - so true - but then people like raw want more details and doctor - proof.  The person that I knew went to the doctors to find out she had brain cancer and then had scans to prove she no longer did. That can help some other people to change their thinking. Back before I knew much it made an impression on me! My mother had cat scans done twice showing the mass and her third no longer had it. The doctors say it's because they must have read the first two scans wrong - but that at least it's something a bit more concrete medical wise than alleviation of symptoms. I for one would never go to a doctor to get diagnosed in the first place. If I suspected it for a minute I'd just put myself on a harmless cure along with the diet I'm already on. No biggie. We need to teach people that it's no biggie. Sometimes test results can help with that for some.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: goodsamaritan on July 10, 2012, 07:53:56 am
I understand what you mean by people still indoctrinated in the medical mafia want to see proof from the same medical mafia.

You would have to point a gun at the cured to ever go back to their former quack doctors who dismissed them that they were going to die in 3 to 6 months.  The cured will want nothing to do with the medical mafia.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: bachcole on July 10, 2012, 08:16:58 am
Dr. Burzynski's story is no different from Max Gerson's story.  The real similarity is that the cancer establishment are a bunch of vicious low-life who will do anything to maintain their monopoly.  They will call it something else, usually they call it science, but it is still greed.

Gerson advocated raw juices and other natural cures.  He got good results.  I believe that we can do better, but Gerson is definitely worth a look-see.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: goodsamaritan on July 10, 2012, 08:46:14 am
My friend Vander does gerson protocol, the Philippine version... he uses his own herd of organically raised goats.  Kills a healthy goat for a patient to get the liver.  So imagine the expense of a goat each time you need a liver.  It's not cheap because of the liver.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: raw-al on July 10, 2012, 11:21:10 am
These cures from Al and GS are very cool. What form of cancer did your friend and his daughter have Al? Were the results verified by their doctors?
I think it was non-Hodgkins, but I am not positive. He had been through chemo, and it was useless indeed the only problem he ended up with was from the chemo. He has turned into the family/relatives/neighbour Doctor.

The whole business has gotten to be a big lie and if one oncologist mentions the Emperor's clothing then the whole deck of cards will come tumbling down. If you were making the kind of money these clowns are making would you say anything?
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: Dorothy on July 11, 2012, 05:15:36 am
Dr. Burzynski's story is no different from Max Gerson's story.  The real similarity is that the cancer establishment are a bunch of vicious low-life who will do anything to maintain their monopoly.  They will call it something else, usually they call it science, but it is still greed.

Gerson advocated raw juices and other natural cures.  He got good results.  I believe that we can do better, but Gerson is definitely worth a look-see.

Bach, it's no different than Gerson, Cassie, Budwig and dozens more. The big thing about the three mentioned is that they have remedies that have been used extensively since the 1950's with outrageously good results - said to be an over 90% cure rate - dramatically better than the 3% success rate of chemo and radiation therapy.

I was thinking GS - how did the patients of your friend know that they had brain tumors if they never had cat scans? Why not some other disease just as awful that created their symptoms?

In the US the government will pay for you to have a cat scan and get chemo and radiation - so not even the poor here can be saved so easily. It's so very hard to talk anyone out of chemo and radiation and surgery here. It's big brainwashing mixed with extreme fear.

Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: Dorothy on July 11, 2012, 05:35:55 am
I think it was non-Hodgkins, but I am not positive. He had been through chemo, and it was useless indeed the only problem he ended up with was from the chemo. He has turned into the family/relatives/neighbour Doctor.

The whole business has gotten to be a big lie and if one oncologist mentions the Emperor's clothing then the whole deck of cards will come tumbling down. If you were making the kind of money these clowns are making would you say anything?

I think it's more than the money. I've spent a good deal of time with doctors over the years with my mother being a nurse, working in hospitals myself as a physician's assistant and then spending a great deal of time in hospitals caring for family. Many of them really do want what is best for their patients, but you have to have a certain kind of brain to become a doctor. You have to study for almost a decade memorizing masses of information, ignoring your own body and see things in a methodical, scientific and reductionist manner. Doctors already are geared to ignore anything outside of a certain framework and then by the time they are done with school and the training in hospitals they have a great vested interest in making sure that all their effort wasn't in vain, but also they must preserve their own minds and the worlds that they live in terms of career and outside of work. It's like when I first read that the fed was a privately owned company. I read that in a brochure given out in the bank before there was any internet or consciousness regarding the matter. I couldn't believe that anyone could read such a simple statement and not have it blow apart their world as they know it. I was willing to have my world blown apart because I had the kind of mind to allow for it and the strength not to have it destroy me. We all defend with great energy things that mean a lot to us because they are what constitute our worldview and our views of ourselves. If you start to question the very basic things that hold your psychology together, it can make you wonder if you can hold yourself together. I've seen doctors over and over again totally ignore things that they see even with their own eyes or experience themselves and they will never ask truly probing questions. It takes a certain kind of person to become a doctor. I could never make it through the brainwashing without doing something stupid to jeopardize all my education - and that's why I didn't become one - the only reason. Oncology has to be the worst because it's a job where you don't get to really heal your patients and you know that going into it. The job itself draws to it only people that have the kind of brains and personalities to be able to live within that world. If you tell them that the world is not really like that - it does not compute because it might shatter their brains/personalities to pieces. They like to think that they are helping and many are extremely compassionate and loving people and highly intelligent people - but intelligent only in a certain bent. There are different forms of intelligence - doctors have one particular form of it which does not accept intelligent information demonstrated by people with other forms of intelligence.

Back in the 50's the scientific community was different than today with a broader view - and that's why still some of the best remedies come from that era.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: goodsamaritan on July 11, 2012, 05:59:02 am
2012 and beyond makes use of 1950s and any other era plus info tech communications like what we have and more makes cancer cures even better.  Bringing it all together.

Our provincial poor go to provincial govt hospitals who may or may not have equipment.  The provincial md may diagnose brain tumors.  Or to get a ct scan, the provincial poor may sell their carabao or the land they till... Or may ask funds from relatives... By the time the poor or the middle class reach / contact real healers such as Vander their funds have all dried up and they may have all been mangled up by western mds and hospitals.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: papangue on July 11, 2012, 05:29:09 pm
Dorothy this is very well explainded, I'm going to translate it and show it to my familly.
It's a must read!
Thank you
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: Dorothy on July 12, 2012, 01:02:30 am
2012 and beyond makes use of 1950s and any other era plus info tech communications like what we have and more makes cancer cures even better.  Bringing it all together.

Our provincial poor go to provincial govt hospitals who may or may not have equipment.  The provincial md may diagnose brain tumors.  Or to get a ct scan, the provincial poor may sell their carabao or the land they till... Or may ask funds from relatives... By the time the poor or the middle class reach / contact real healers such as Vander their funds have all dried up and they may have all been mangled up by western mds and hospitals.

Ah - so it's not much different than here! People lose everything to pay the medical doctors and THEN when it doesn't work they turn to alternatives - but the medical treatments make it even harder for the alternatives to work well and they do damage that then has to be reversed - and which is harder to reverse than the cancer they started out with.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: Dorothy on July 12, 2012, 01:03:02 am
Dorothy this is very well explainded, I'm going to translate it and show it to my familly.
It's a must read!
Thank you

You're welcome Nicolas. I hope it helps.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: raw-al on July 12, 2012, 11:06:37 am
BAKING SODA Kills CANCER,2of2 Matches NC Dr 30years ago.Cured his CANCER 5 days YT=VitoVerns CH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Grtrm8tk4d4#)
http://phkillscancer.com/ (http://phkillscancer.com/)

Aha, the skinny on PH for cancer.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: raw-al on July 12, 2012, 11:17:12 am
All these links came from a friend's post on the rife forum  "Re: Trying to help dad with his metastasized lung cancer!" post # 18

 http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=759239 (http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=759239)
How to inhale Hydrogen Peroxide for Good Health (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT1_Rkl0B1M#)
http://www.naturalnews.com/033385_cancer_pH_levels.html (http://www.naturalnews.com/033385_cancer_pH_levels.html)
http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/ (http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/)

Hyperthermia:

An American doctor treating a cancerous tumour around 1979 found that the
tumour was disappearing and asked what the patient had done differently.
He said 'nothing' but that a few weeks earlier he was sick and had a very
high fever. This was reported to the AMA which promptly 'buried it'. But
in Europe they did research and came up with their hyperthermia treatments. Don't kill a fever unless it prolongs too long or it's too high >105 F.

http://www.rife.de/oncotherm_-_rife_and_hyperthermia.html (http://www.rife.de/oncotherm_-_rife_and_hyperthermia.html)

http://www.oncotherm.org/web/ (http://www.oncotherm.org/web/)
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: raw on July 12, 2012, 12:07:29 pm
My cousin died last month on lung cancer at the age of 30. She left behind her husband and three children. I told her family to use baking soda therapy, but they couldn't trust me. Thank u AL for ur post.         Thank u everyone. Please, keep    posting more information. Thanks
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: raw-al on July 12, 2012, 12:11:59 pm
That's a tough one Raw!

All you can do is suggest. You're not responsible beyond that.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: raw-al on July 13, 2012, 12:22:52 am
Sorry about the incorrect info.
In the prior post I listed a link that has incorrect info. He says to use non-food grade H2O2.
( See under Bill Munro's instructions, no 2)

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=759239 (http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=759239)

Do not do as he says.

 Only use food grade H2O2 internally, either swallowing or inhaling. This is because when it is for external use it contains other chemicals which will make you feel sick.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: Dorothy on July 13, 2012, 11:33:37 pm
Al, one of the best cancer cures with the best regular medical establishment results was way back when if a patient was about to die of cancer they would inject another viral disease that would give the patient a high fever. If the patient did not die of the new injected disease, they came out of it with no more cancer no matter how advanced

The same results can be gotten by spending time in hot tubs or saunas getting the internal body temperature up to 103 degrees. 103 is suggested because it is known that at that temp no damage at all is done to the healthy cells, but at that temperature the cancer cells are killed or at least debilitated to the point where they are easy picking for the immune system, which in fact is strengthened due to the higher temperatures. That is part of the reason we get fevers - at higher temps the immune system is activated strongly and strengthened and is designed to work at highest efficiency. Aberrant cells and microbes are usually the strongest at lower temps.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: Dorothy on July 13, 2012, 11:43:33 pm
If you are woman be careful about using baking soda especially if you have yeast problems as the vagina is supposed to be acidic and baking soda therapy can create very bad yeast infections in women if used too frequently and for some women just a little can cause serious problems. Also, don't eat close to taking baking soda as it will interfere with stomach acid.

Cancerous cells are cells that revert back to prehistoric cell structures when in an environment that is low oxygen and acidic. There are better ways of getting your body alkaline again than baking soda by interfering with the cachexia cycle. Part of the reason people get even more acidic when they have cancer is because of the way that cancer cells use sugar. They ferment it and in the process create acid. One of the best ways to know if you have cancer is by testing your saliva before eating and after eating (20-30 minutes). If you are more acidic after eating that might mean that you have some cancer activity because the cancer cells took the food and created more acid. This doesn't happen with normal cells. It's a good way to know if your alternative cancer therapy is working too. Much better than most testing done by the medical doctors outside of actual pictures taken of tumors to see if they are shrinking. But...... even if the tumor isn't shrinking and you start to stay more alkaline after eating - you are in the right direction and that means that the tumor will not, is not, growing - which is really your only real important goal in most cancers besides making sure that it cannot spread - but that is easy with pectasol c - and besides - even if it does spread and you are not feeding it - it can't grow.

When it comes to cancer, the important thing is to get to the cause. If you artificially buy yourself more time by getting rid of one tumor, you are not stopping the imbalance that allowed that tumor to grow in the first place and it is highly likely that you will get another one. This is what happens in modern medicine. They get rid of one only to have an extremely high incidence of recurrence. Even if you don't get cancer again, having such an imbalance causes other diseases as well.

The way to stop the recurrence is to change the terrain that created the imbalance in the first place by changing food, drinks, environment, lifestyle, thoughts and emotions.

All other therapies that actively kill cancer cells are wonderful in the process of buying yourself enough time to make the real life changes necessary to living a healthy life.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: raw on July 14, 2012, 12:31:23 am
How about eating the seed of avocado to cancer cure?
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: raw-al on July 14, 2012, 01:10:02 am
Interesting Dorothy,

This fits into the Ayurvedic model,  as well as the Rife technology.

Royal Rife said that cancer is not cells gone awry (as Allopathics guess) but a virus. He was able to see the virus with the dark-field microscope that he developed and the FDA/AMA saw to the destruction of it. http://www.cancer-cure-that-worked.com/ (http://www.cancer-cure-that-worked.com/)

This microscope allowed seeing very small things without the strong heat produced by the light in microscopes of then and even up to now from what I am told.

The heat of the old style optical microscopes killed the virus, so naturally since they were killed, the biologists could see nothing move. Rife's microscopes used some sort of quartz lens which I cannot explain as I do not understand. I believe he dyed the virus to make them visible. He actually worked for a microscope manufacturer in Europe early in his career.

So he simply used a device that produced frequency, which he put through a bulb with gas in it that produced light when excited. (same way that modern lights work) Then he watched the virus as he methodically adjusted the frequencies till he found the frequencies that caused the virus to harmonize to the point of their destruction, in the same way that some opera singers can shatter glass.

The frequencies can be varied in the same way that musical frequencies can be in the sense of 3rds and fourths and octaves etc. It's all very fascinating and there is a large community of people in the world working on the technology expanding it's horizons.

The whole story of Royal Rife is similar in a lot of ways to what happened to the guy in the video that found another cure for cancer that a prior poster mentioned. They hounded him, took him to court frivolously, burnt down his lab, called him bad names in the press and set the FDA to call him a quack with no proof, then had the FDA destroy his equipment and take his records in the same way they did to the guy in the video.

There is way too much money in patent medicine.

Nowadays people are using his technology, calling it something else and basically stealing it to do the same thing and getting it 'approved' by the FDA, for very specific issues such as brain cancer and arthritis etc. and charging a ton of money for the devices, when in reality, there are some top-shelf, very well made,  (600 USD to a few thousand USD) very effective devices that will 'cure' an unbelievable # of conditions that are basically viruses. The list is awesome.

It would essentially put most doctors and surgeons out of work. It is so hilarious reading about people getting 'experimental surgery' that is bleeding edge and may hold promise for a 'miracle cure'. Such a crock. Too much money is paid to surgeons. They should stick to setting bones.

Having said all this, diet, lifestyle and environment is the culprit at the bottom of all this disease stuff.

Check out the pic of Royal Rife. He has a ciggy in his pinkies. This was the 1930's.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: raw-al on July 14, 2012, 01:19:21 am
Dorothy,

What you said about sugars makes perfect sense. Anyone who eats sugar and especially processed or heated sugar is asking for trouble. On the Rife forums etc everyone says that for someone with cancer, avoid sugar like the plague for the reasons you suggest.

To me processed sugar should be taxed heavily because of it's cost to society. Even in countries that do not have a 'free' medical system, sickness costs society a bundle. I do not like the idea of rules or taxes but it's kind of like motorcycle helmet laws... if some idiot rides around on a motorcycle in a T-shirt and no helmet, it is the rest of us who pay for the stupidity as the Police and ambulance etc have t be paid for by somebody. Anyways that's a large argument I don't want to get into.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: Dorothy on July 14, 2012, 03:38:20 am
Al - it has been widely accepted a long time that cancer cells have microbes in them and that's why dmso/colloidal silver is a miracle cure. Try that one for size as a threat to the money making cancer industry as dmso is a by-product of the paper industry and is cheaper than the dirt I buy for my garden and colloidal silver you can make at home for literally pennies ... I do. That's the cure that got rid of my Mom's cancer and made the tumor on my dog start to fall off. That's the one that beat all the others and you know why? It's because dmso goes directly to cancer cells and brings whatever it is mixed with directly into the cancer cell. Colloidal silver kills microbes of all kinds. The microbe in the cancer cell is killed and here is the important part - very important - it turns the cancer cell BACK to a normal cell without that microbe. This is big because one of the biggest dangers in alternative therapies isn't if they work or not - but that they work so well. Killing off lots of cancer cells can make a real mess for the immune system to clean up. The cesium provider I got cesium from had a limit for each patient of how much he would sell just for those reasons. The Herxheimer reaction could be too big. But with colloidal silver turning the cell back to a normal one, there is no herxheimer reaction, no big deox, no taxing an already taxed immune system, liver etc. It's the most amazing thing - even more than rife for that reason when it comes to cancer - and - it costs close to nothing. You don't even take it internally, just put it on the skin. The only reaction could be a little itching but that is relieved with a good raw coconut oil. The only danger is if you take it along with a medication or touch something toxic that will also get absorbed - but that's downright dumb. The one and only downside is that it can make you smell bad. When it comes to cancer how silly would it be to consider that when you can get rid of your cancer quicker than any other means using it?! It's called the 24 hour cure because it's the only way to cure cancer so fast. Within 24 hours the pain is gone but it depends on the extent of the cancer and dosage how long it takes.

Here's a video on dmso from 60 minutes. It doesn't even talk about curing cancer or how dmso finds cancer cells and can bring substances to destroy cancer cells directly at all - but it shows how incredibly safe it is if 60 minutes could find not one bad thing to say about it.

DMSO Dr. Stanley W. Jacob Part_1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0i7jARfKeI#)

As far a colloidal silver goes - if it's made properly it is one of the safest therapies on the planet. Mix it with dmso you get one of the most powerful anti-microbial agents directly to the spot where the infection is.

The silverpuppy is the silver maker we picked in case anyone is interested.  It's great. You can make your own for almost nothing though by following instructions on the internet with a battery.

The cheapest, fastest, easiest and most effective cure for cancer in my experience hands down.

But you HAVE to stop feeding the cancer when you do it! Any alternative therapy can't have you feeding the cancer with sugar while something else is trying to effect it negatively.

It's like having a monster in a cage and feeding it raw meat and making it stronger while you're trying to defend yourself against it. When I say sugar that includes pasta, breads and anything sweet - even honey should be avoided. The only sweet things to eat are certain fruits that have active cancer killing constituents.

Do you know if Rife explodes the microbe only or the cancer cell itself?
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: raw-al on July 14, 2012, 06:13:05 am
Do you know if Rife explodes the microbe only or the cancer cell itself?
It kills the microbe itself, not the cell.

I have a benign enlarged prostate. If you are my age you would be unusual if you didn't. I've had it for years and I blame it on pasteurized milk, another long story.

Recently (very long story) my friend in Africa (13,074 km from me) and I decided to try an experiment. He ran the frequencies on prostate enlargement on me from his home. He had a piece of my fingernail for the DNA sample. He ran the frequencies probably an hour or two.

Anyways, next morning when I got up, I felt different, slightly energized, went for my morning whiz and it definitely felt different, as the BEP had normalized completely. It was very strange because I had just gotten used to it being enlarged.

Whenever I hear people with cancer and the harrowing experiences with the drug and surgery cartel, I am torn as to whether to tell them about this stuff as most don't believe it. Some actually get angry as they believe their doctors who all say it is quackery and preying on the weak.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: Dorothy on July 14, 2012, 07:50:35 am
Ah - so it does what dmso/silver do - kills the microbe in the cell and turns the cell back to a normal cell. Fabulous! No die off to deal with.

I have to admit Al that you have slowly been convincing me to give Rife another chance. The devices that I have seen in action might not be the same that you are using. I'm very curious now. Someone else recently told me that she cured her husband of cancer without ever telling him what she was doing - she just ran the rife at night when he was sleeping.

Rife is more expensive than dmso/silver but it has so many applications it seems - and still a drop in the bucket compared to chemo/radiation/surgery.

I just found out yesterday that yet another cousin isn't listening to me. She went out and had part of her intestines removed. I had myself a good cry over how many people that I care about have refused to listen to me that I could have saved from so much pain. It's not so much that they die, it's that their endings are so horrible.

Hopefully our conversations here can help people that are more open-minded and willing to take the short time and effort necessary to cure themselves before jumping off that diving board with the medical cartel.

Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: raw-al on July 14, 2012, 11:03:35 am
Ah - so it does what dmso/silver do - kills the microbe in the cell and turns the cell back to a normal cell. Fabulous! No die off to deal with.

I have to admit Al that you have slowly been convincing me to give Rife another chance. The devices that I have seen in action might not be the same that you are using. I'm very curious now. Someone else recently told me that she cured her husband of cancer without ever telling him what she was doing - she just ran the rife at night when he was sleeping.

Rife is more expensive than dmso/silver but it has so many applications it seems - and still a drop in the bucket compared to chemo/radiation/surgery.

I just found out yesterday that yet another cousin isn't listening to me. She went out and had part of her intestines removed. I had myself a good cry over how many people that I care about have refused to listen to me that I could have saved from so much pain. It's not so much that they die, it's that their endings are so horrible.

Hopefully our conversations here can help people that are more open-minded and willing to take the short time and effort necessary to cure themselves before jumping off that diving board with the medical cartel.
Honestly I get pretty excited over new things and am not completely familiar with all of the ins and outs of them. I have become familiar with this particular Rife device through long conversations on Skype etc to people in a  few places on the globe. Also I have read books, and read the forum regularly, and attend web Q&As.

Operator ability enters into the equation as with any device. Also the manufacturer's specifications enter into the equation. Not all devices will work long distance. All that aside, I do believe that all medicines and modalities have a downside and the ultimate object is to improve the diet/lifestyle so the crutch can be thrown away.

When people choose to not accept therapy, they are choosing, as is their right, to go though death to a new birth. (as goes my opinion)

Regarding DMSO/silver, it sounds like a good choice and one that your familiarity with, makes it a good choice. You have succeeded in informing a wider audience on it's applicability. One site that I monitor suggests using CS in a nebulizer alternating with H2O2 for asthmatic problems.

Rife devices I believe will also tend to kill off good bacteria, so it is important to repopulate the gut with bacteria.

They also work for cleaning heavy metals from the body. The frequencies chosen are based on the atomic # of the metal.

They are also used in agriculture to produce homeopathic pesticides in lieu of the chemical ones. These devices are industrial sized and rather expensive but in the long run are far superior because no chemicals are used and thus no residues.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: raw-al on July 14, 2012, 11:11:19 am
Dorothy,

re: the baking soda. She is using it to eliminate the taste of the H2O2. It's quite strong when you follow the protocol at the higher dosages.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: Dorothy on July 14, 2012, 12:14:16 pm
They say you can use juice - but not to take it with any food. I wonder about using juice and the interaction.
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: papangue on July 17, 2012, 05:08:45 am
Hello Dorothy,
Do you know if pectasol-c  can also cross the blood brain barrier and stop brain tumor growth?
Title: Re: Cancer cure and the truth
Post by: Dorothy on July 17, 2012, 01:08:39 pm
Nicolas - pectasol-c does NOT stop tumor growth! What it does is stay in the blood stream and stop cancer cells from travelling through the blood to spread the cancer to other sites. And no, I do not know if it passes the blood/brain barrier to stop new tumors in the brain.

In order to stop growth of a tumor all you have to do is stop feeding it. Brain cancer is a difficult cancer because in the brain the tumor itself can be very damaging. It was similar with the pancreatic cancer. There are very few tumors that really need to be gotten rid of completely and brain tumors can be one of them.

Think of treatment in several different categories.
1. Stop it from spreading (pectasol-c)
2. Stop the tumor itself from growing (interfere with the cachexia cycle)
3. Get rid of the tumor.

Getting rid of the tumor is often not even necessary! Sometimes doctors forget that it's not about getting rid of the tumor but having the patient survive and have a good quality to that life that's important. I read somewhere in all my reading a story of someone being at an autopsy with a doctor that was delighted that the tumor was gone.