CHK, how did you come up with your supplement regimen?

Unfortunately, my partner is down with an un-diagnosable illness. It'll probably be months before he can exercise again. I am only concerned with burning myself out by going too hard into a new exercise program after not working out for a long time. I'm thinking of going straight to weights (low weights) and body-weight exercises.

LOL Yuli... all this talk of psychedelics lately makes me want to experiment. 

Hello Dima, It sounds like we have much in common! I did away with GERD also. My hyperactivity (I refuse to call it ADD), anxiety, depression, and fatigue are all dissolving thanks to this way of eating. I hope you love eating raw meat as much as I do!

Thanks, actup90. Your results sound encouraging. I love eating raw meat!

Even if one person gets sick, we can't make people who recommend high meats responsible, many people have benefits and don't get sick...its a specific process, if someone fucks it up because they didn't know any better, had bad meat to begin with, has some physical handicap its still not the fault of those people who use high meat for its benefits and are very much alive and healthy. I guess that sounds kind of mean, but there are people that died from eating any meat, do we not recommend eating meat because of this? Well some people do but they are clearly stupid.

If that's directed at me, I'm certainly not holding anyone responsible. I believe in personal responsibility. My intention for starting this thread was to learn and to share. I am not out to give high-meat a bad rap. I hope that was clear from my previous messages.

Go for the high-meat, Yuli, I am very much looking forward to the high-meat VS LSD comparison 

Actually there has been a vast food-poisoning epidemic caused by you. Since these people are dead they can not respond. Luckily this man survived long enough to ask the question: WTF??

By my calculations based on

• The high toxin levels in your high meat recipe
• The low immune system resistance to these types of toxins in newbies

• Your supposed credibility as Global Moderator
• The number of years you have been promoting this crazy idea

• The traffic on this website
• The gullibility of a lot of the newbies

The number of deaths is in the thousands. We will never know for sure because, of course, they are dead and can't tell us.

Have you no conscience Sir? Does a human life mean nothing to you?

Merry Christmas

The point of my post was not to ask the question WTF?, but to seek guidance on where my preparation process may have gone wrong. My negative experience from high-meat was not a fight for survival. All I had was a mild sickness that went away on its own in a few hours. Your claims, Don, seem ridiculous. I get the same talk from my friends and co-workers when I order a rare steak at a restaurant: "That meat is full of parasites." When I ask them what parasites are present in the meat they give me the "deer in the headlights" look.

I suspect that high meat is still not as good as sex!  Can't say about LSD - never tried.

The meat came from a whole 10lb grass-fed ribeye that was cryovaced. Thus, it was not exposed to contaminants at the butcher shop. I've eaten some of the slab cooked and raw and did not have any problems. I have eaten lots of the same cuts of beef from the same source (never cooked more then blood rare) and never had a problem. I don't think the meat was contaminated from the start.

I ate about 2 oz of it and like I said before the taste was actually good. I will give it another try because I am intrigued by the positive reports of others. To me it is not about getting high, but about seeking cure for things like ADD, which have a very serious impact on the quality of my life. I realize there are risks in this (as there are risks in eating raw meats), but the benefits seem to be worth it.

Hello Tyler,

I wouldn't say I have an intolerance to plant foods, however I do feel some discomfort when eating fruit and veggies. I do not experience anything like that when eating animal foods only.

This is a brief description of my first time eating high-meat. I've made two batches:

a) Made from grass-fed beef, half of which was previous frozen and the other half was dry-aged on the refrigerator shelf. This meat did not ferment very-well in the fridge, so I left the jars opened on the counter for a few days and that seemed to get the process going. I aired the jars every day for 30 days and occassionally left them on the counter overnight.

b) Made from grass-fed lamb, never frozen. About 15 days old. Followed the same preparation process as above.


So on day 30 I decided to try it. The meat was foul smelling and moldy on the surface, but inside it was appetizingly red and somewhat dry. Is it normal for high meat to look like this? Beef tasted ok and the lamb was great! Briefly after eating it I felt a faint improvement in my alertness and felt very peaceful. Could've been my imagination though.

Toward the end of the day I felt very fatigued and the early evening I was having flu-like symptoms. I had fever, felt very disoriented and nauseous. I've had similar symptoms before when I had a serious food poisoning from a restaurant meal. The symptoms resolved on their own by about midnight and I felt good again.

I think the problem may have been due to the beef having been frozen and dried previously. Any thoughts? I think I'm going to ditch the beef and try eating the lamb in two weeks.

Finally, just something I've been pondering for a while: are the positive effects of high meats due to the improvement of gut flora, or are people just getting high from the toxins created by the bacteria?


THanks!

Hello everyone,

My name is Dima. I am 29/m living in NJ. I went cooked paleo about two years ago and saw great benefits - was able to get off my GERD meds. I switched to cooked ZC sometime this year; saw great results in the beginning, but it quickly became a struggle. I naturally gravitated to RZC in the recent weeks and the information from this forum was most helpful! Transitioning to raw meats, fish, organs was surprisingly easy. My main goals are to heal mild depression, anxiety, ADD and the chronic fatigue which I've had for most of my life.  All the positive lifestyle changes I've done in the recent years (diet, exercise, etc) have yet to yield any positive results with the above problems. I'm also curious to see what my athletic performance will be on RZC.



Cheers,

Dima