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Raw Paleo Diet Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: goodsamaritan on August 17, 2008, 05:36:32 pm
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Post your eating raw animal foods in public experiences here...
Looked at strangely while eating raw meat at a beef broth restaurant
Me and 2 friends were in a beef broth restaurant / bulaluhan this afternoon. I had been experiencing stomach discomfort with cooked food so no way would I want to sabotage my health by agreeing to eat out. So I went to the kitchen and asked the staff to find me bone marrow in their freezer and cut me up some meat. We finally got enough bone marrow and I left it up to them to cut up some meat. I explained to her that I can’t eat cooked meat as I get upset stomach by doing so.
My soup arrived. And a plate of my raw beef marrow and some muscle arrived. Now to taste the raw material if they had good beef. By now I could taste and identify if raw beef was good or not. I was not let down. The raw material was good stuff. I had a good meal. Though my friends said that people were looking at me while I was eating my beef raw. I said at least I looked normal as I sipped my soup.
So this little public display shows that raw beef eating is a rare thing. One of my friends was embarrassed and told me that maybe it’s not a good idea for me to eat in public like that again, people might think I’m some kind of monster.
I told my indian friend that the raw beef I ate was safe for the cancer sick, and the cooked beef everybody eats is unsafe for the cancer sick, and eating cooked beef is what the public thinks is civilized.
Taken from: http://www.myhealthblog.org/2008/08/17/looked-at-strangely-while-eating-raw-meat-at-a-beef-broth-restaurant/
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Well, some raw animal foods I don't mind eating in public(eg:- raw oysters or sashimi or steak-tartare or ceviche), but I draw the line at eating things like wild-hare carcasses or marrow, as they are so messy to deal with - and people are so limited as regards raw animal foods, that it's not usually a good idea to flaunt my unusual diet too much, except in more socially-acceptable ways such as when eating sashimi in restaurants.
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It sucks how brainwashed people are currently. In order to enjoy healthy food in public you have to get looked at like a monster. :( Hopefully people will get smarter.
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I have a humorous story about eating raw in public. When I first went paleo I was still working. For lunch I would often have a small salad with raw or very rare shredded meat in it. One day one of the secrateries sat down at my table in the lunch room and when she saw what I was eating she said "Boy you sure like a lot of tomato in your salad!" I just smiled and kept eating.
Lex
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I have a humorous story about eating raw in public. When I first went paleo I was still working. For lunch I would often have a small salad with raw or very rare shredded meat in it. One day one of the secrateries sat down at my table in the lunch room and when she saw what I was eating she said "Boy you sure like a lot of tomato in your salad!" I just smiled and kept eating.
Lex
:D this story makes me smile..
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Great stories! Lots of fellow college students used to think I was pretty crazy for eating glass containers full of raw turkey meat in the hallway. But I've always been a kind of strange person to most others anyway so I'm used to it.
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I'm sure I will have some stories coming this fall! :D
Right now all I have to deal with is my parents
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Great stories! Lots of fellow college students used to think I was pretty crazy for eating glass containers full of raw turkey meat in the hallway. But I've always been a kind of strange person to most others anyway so I'm used to it.
How is turkey? Texture and taste?
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I usually take a glass container with me each day filled to the brim with meat and fat. When I am hungry I will go to a park and sit down and eat. I have never had a problem. I think people would not believe someone was eating raw meat even if they saw what it was....it is just to scary and real for them. The only problem I would have is if the gestapo searched my bag...considering they harassed me for carrying water in glass bottles ::) the last time I was searched.
I also like to eat this way because by the time I do eat, my food is nice and warm. When I get home and eat I never give it enough time to warm to room temperature.
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So I have a story to share!
Three of my friends all live in a house together and I went over there last night. I told my friend before I came that I was going to bring meat and eat it raw. He said "That's weird, but okay." Apparently he thought I was kidding.
So I got to their house, and they still could not believe that I was going to eat my meat raw. They said they kept thinking that I was kidding, that I wasn't really going to do it.
They totally freaked out when they watched me take the first bite. I told them about how I ate raw organs as well. They told me they wanted to film me doing it and put it up on YouTube. But all while I was eating, they were asking me questions, and I told them about the Raw Paleo diet. They just didn't get it and kept telling me what I was doing was unsanitary and "Why don't you just cook it?". Then one of them said "Who wants some honeybuns?" and they ate those *rolls eyes*
I told them that I really really like raw meat, and that I crave it. When they saw that I actually really liked it, they said "Well, if you really like it, then more power to you!"
One of them even tried a small bit of my raw meat when the other two weren't looking. It was hilarious actually, because he was being so weird about it.
Also, I ate raw meat in front of one of my suite-mates yesterday. I said "are you going to be grossed out if I eat this raw?" and he said "no, are you really going to?"
He asked me if it was safe, and I said yes and explained about grass-fed beef. He didn't really act like it was very strange at all, which was cool.
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Boxcarguy, I would suggest not to promote this diet, overly. I don't think you should hide away in your kitchen and eat RAF, either, but the vast majority of people are very limited and closed-minded about this subject, so it's best to be discreet and just mention it if asked, IMO.
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Well, I don't go telling people randomly that I eat raw meat :)
These guys are really good friends of mine, and I was asked to come over. They are used to me bringing my own food over to their house, and I knew I was gonna be hungry and needed food, so I brought what I usually eat.
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What I mean is, even with people you know, it's probably best to eat more socially-acceptable raw animal foods in their presence such as sashimi(raw fish), raw eggs, steak tartare.
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Just wondering, why?
Just because of what people might think?
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Just wondering, why?
Just because of what people might think?
Do you care what people think, Keith? I tend not to in my personal life. I used to eat chicken livers or yogurt and apple for lunch as a teen. People thought it super weird, but I did not care.
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Just wondering, why?
Just because of what people might think?
What I mean is that people tend to get on with each other, partly because they have things in common. The more "out-of-step" you are with others, the more difficult it is to handle them. Eccentricity is usually only condoned if you've got a lot of material wealth - if you're a multimillionaire you don't have to care what others think.
In the case of RAFers, I don't think there's a single case of a RAFer, married to a non-RAFer, who eats a 100% raw diet, for example. We all have to make compromises.
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What I mean is that people tend to get on with each other, partly because they have things in common. The more "out-of-step" you are with others, the more difficult it is to handle them. Eccentricity is usually only condoned if you've got a lot of material wealth - if you're a multimillionaire you don't have to care what others think.
In the case of RAFers, I don't think there's a single case of a RAFer, married to a non-RAFer, who eats a 100% raw diet, for example. We all have to make compromises.
I don't have to care what others think even without a lot of material wealth. In fact, I don't.
I don't go out of my way to tell people about what I eat or advertise it, but I don't hide it either. I'm not ashamed of it, and don't act as if I were.
So far the people who I've told/who have found out have been generally pretty accepting.
If someone thinks I'm weird for eating RAF, well, they probably would have thought I was weird anyway. And if someone doesn't want to be my friend because they think I'm weird, well that's completely fine with me.
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I think would be a bit easier to be eccentric if your mega rich, good looking, famous.
Quite a few of my friends know what I eat and some have tried to save me! because you know, what I eat is dangerous and will die from germs, scurvy blah blah blah even though they will also tell me how good I look. The problem is it's way to far out of most peoples comprehension and understandably so!
Some friends/family I do hide it from because they are not open minded enough or too old to comprehend. I also don't really like people to look in my fridge to see theres only meat and water in there , it looks kinda strange! I've thought about putting the bottle of coke, fruits veges, long life milk etc to make it look more normal (my brother uses my house and rang me up to tell me was starving and there's nothing to eat in my house but meat! hee hee)
I'm lucky family eats raw now, mum eats raw liver, eggs, suet, milk and butter but she will make up elaborate recipes and presentations which I find funny! definitley a girly thing..! she eats mainly cooked weston price type meals. She's a good sport and looks great for her age. My brother also eats raw meat and suet but works away so finds it difficult, he is into lifting weights and is keen to get started and is always asking me questions about it.
So I eat raw in front of my family and some friends. I haven't had anyone scream and run away...yet :D
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That's awesome your family is coming around to raw foods! And yes being eccentric does in my mind seem to be easier should I be rich and/or famous.
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I usually take a glass container with me each day filled to the brim with meat and fat. When I am hungry I will go to a park and sit down and eat. I have never had a problem. I think people would not believe someone was eating raw meat even if they saw what it was....it is just to scary and real for them. The only problem I would have is if the gestapo searched my bag...considering they harassed me for carrying water in glass bottles ::) the last time I was searched.
I also like to eat this way because by the time I do eat, my food is nice and warm. When I get home and eat I never give it enough time to warm to room temperature.
Do they search you often? I don't like them treating people like that, just because they have nothing better to do or because of more of their other reasons to start trouble where there isn't any. I'm sure they didn't really suspect you might be carrying bottles to later use as weapons, they're just afraid to stop real criminals.
I wait too long to shop sometimes. I've sat on one of the parklike benches outside the gourmet store where I buy my raw meat, and eaten my raw calf's liver straight out of the packaging. Two ladies walked by eating Baskin and Robbin chatting, and I nonchalantly held my food down for the moment as they passed, so they wouldn't notice what I was eating if they happened to glance in my direction. Who knows? Maybe they would have thought I was eating something else, especially since it was dark and evening. And I thought to myself how out of shape they were and what they were eating, but they would have gasped at my food. There were outdoor café like tables too several yards away with people eating at them, but there are wide bricked columns in between, so I knew they wouldn't see.
Usually I can wait till I get home to eat or somewhere else where the food is still a little cold. I don't mind eating cold (raw) meat at all, it might be a little cold on my hands though if I haven't eaten enough fat first. Anyway, I was spending time with my friend who was in hospital in bed there. I had to stay much time because they probably belonged in ICU or home or hospice; because they were in very serious position and the hospital staff was neglecting them terribly and they knew it. So, I had my raw meat in a baggy. When there finally was time I could take a break, I went to the luncheonette across the street with some family members and while they ate luncheonette food I ate raw meat at the table right in front of them. It was warm, and late. You have to be thankful for every little good thing. They were totally cool with me eating it there, it was a nice experience (even though I was concerned about my friend's health).
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alright, i dont personally eat my raw meat in public, but i had a pretty neat experience the other day. i was at the austin farmer's market with my dad and we saw this guy sitting by the playground eating raw chicken right out in the open. it was very bizarre and i had to look twice, but he just had a bag of raw chicken that im assuming he just bought at the farmer's market and was ripping it apart with bare hands and eating it. i was very impressed and wanted to go talk to him cuz i've never met another rpd'er, but my dad was there and we were in a hurry. anyways, for all i know, that guy could be on this forum, so if he is, let's meet up!
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I find airports to be the most impossible place to find decent food. Fruit is about it, but 6-8hrs of travel leaves me wanting for a bit more. So one time I picked up some ground beef on the way to the airport, got through security fine. I didn't want to draw attention so I got a large cup and put it in there, and ate in quick bites when no one was looking. I've also brought eggs and ate them quickly in the restroom. I guess a few guys saw, but whatever.
If I'm having a discussion about diet, I usually try and stress the problems with grains, preservatives, and processed food. I'll start talking raw when the person seems open minded. And then I'll usually mention sushi, oysters, eggs, rare steak and tartar to point out that it's really not as crazy as it sounds at first. But no matter what, I always point out that the biggest culprits are grains, preservatives, and processed food; and make mention of genetics and paleo-diet. I figure maybe they'll go look it up and move just a step closer to paleo.
Haha, then sometimes before I've ever mentioned any of this, and it's obvious the person is close minded, I'll recommend something 'crazy' like raw chicken as an antidote to their ailments, but never tell them about my diet.
I was in Walgreens the other day getting water for my car, got in line, and this lady in front of me looked terrible: overweight, sagging face, confused eyes. Under her right arm was a 12 pack of soda, and in her left was a basket full of sweet tarts, milk duds, and every type of candy-bar known to man. So she grabs a packet of cold medicine as a last item before checking out. I can't contain myself at this point; "Not feeling so good?" She replies, "I've heard this is great stuff for a cold," I simply said, "Oranges and honey." She informed me that did not work for her, and I left it at that. A few minutes later I passed her in the parking lot and said, "If you put life in the body, you will get life back from the body." She said "yeah I know." ... she had no idea.
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How is turkey? Texture and taste?
Better than chicken imo.
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I like to snack on raw fruits, vegetables, and meat throughout the day instead of three big meals. It keeps my energy level and mood constant and is more in line with how our paleo ancestors ate.
To not look weird I dry meat, poultry, and fish at a low temperature (100 degrees) with a spice rub (no salt) in a dehydrator. It is then cut into bite-size chunks that look like jerky. I keep it in a little sandwich bag and whenever I feel the hungry I just pop a piece in my mouth. I enjoy chewing the gristle like gum.
The meat will get moldy if not refrigerated, so take care if you try this. I am uncertain about the health risks of the mold.
I have offered my "jerky" to co-workers who all love it, however if I tell them it is raw meat they freak out; life is strange.
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I like to snack on raw fruits, vegetables, and meat throughout the day instead of three big meals. It keeps my energy level and mood constant and is more in line with how our paleo ancestors ate.
I think their meals were more similar to lions and other carnivores.
Occasional big meals, when they made a kill of an animal they probably just gorged themselves.
Eating throughout the day is more similar to how herbivores eat. Like grazers such as cows, which chew cud. Also, foragers like elephants and white tailed deer eat through the day.
Meat and fat is more calorie dense than most available plants such as leaves, stems & shoots. So snacking throughout the day probably wouldn't be necessary.
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Last night it was dinner time and I happened to be at the Farmer's market so I bought 1/3 kilo of freshly killed raw sirloin beef and asked the butcher to slice it in small bite size pieces.
I went to the dining area. Many people bring their raw fish or animal from the market to the restaurants for cooking. I got a plate and started eating with a fork.
Raw Paleo saves on money for cooking and eliminates pollution from cooking and condiments.
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The books I have been reading lately on the subject have convinced me that we are not herbivores or carnivores, but omnivores. They base this on various anatomical features of our bodies, fossil records, and comparisons to recent hunter-gatherer societies. The author of the book titled "The Paleo Diet" thought that our cave-man ancestors grazed throughout the day and as a group hunted down a large animal in the cool of the evening and gorged on meat before going to sleep. Sounds good to me. Three balanced meals is a modern necessity; eat before work, take a lunch break, and eat after work. Our Paleo ancestors did not have "jobs". They just hung around all day eating and procreating. I could go for that. Beam me back Scottie.
The reason for hunting down a large Wolly Mamoth is that it is way more efficient than chasing down chickens and rabbits. There is a lot of evidence that we took the leftover meat and smoked it by the fire to keep the flies away and then let it dry in the sun. BBQ. Preserved meat for days. It is no coincidence that men like to cook outside. I have three different types of smokers and have learned how to rig them to "cold smoke", so as to minimize the effect on the meat. I just want to remove the water content, preserve, and add flavor.
I am still researching this and would like to hear your thoughts.
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I too am convinced that humans are omnivores.
I like your train of thought. Go ahead and explore it.
Hunting big animals is more efficient. It feeds more people at once. But humans will have to settle for whatever is available in their locale.
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In my local most humans do settle for what is READILY available and what has been marketed to them by people with a profit motive. As I look around they are all suffering terrible diseases and dying slow and painful deaths. Children are born deformed and suffer behavioral defects.
The medical community just administers drugs and operations to help relieve some of the suffering but does not address the cause.
We are out of sync with our evolutionary natural environment.
Where I live I can lessen my suffering by searching out organic unpasteurized food producers and eating raw. A lot of unrepairable damage has already been done to me and my children. I don't think the people around me can be saved.
All I can do is keep trying to carry the message of being in harmony with nature based on our evolutionary heritage.
I love this forum because it helps people searching for the natural truth
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Many people can be saved.
I just came from a board of directors meeting and my Christmas gift to all my fellow board members was the book by Henry Bieler MD: Food is your Best Medicine with a DVD of Food Matters http://www.tinyurl.com/foodmatters with my web development business card that also says Manggagamot (Filipino Traditional Healer): http://www.curemanual.com
This evening beside me, his wife I helped last year begin her natural way of healing atherosclerosis. She started on raw vegan diet... now has switched to raw paleo by adding fertilized eggs... she's just about ready to add more raw animal foods... I volunteered that I would sit down with them again and teach his wife this time to eat raw animal foods and we can go to market together and get a meal so I can demonstrate to them.
I think humans learn by doing, by mimicking others, just hearing or reading about raw paleo diet is one thing, but actually being seated in front of a friend, a live human being eating raw animal foods with you and enjoying it must be inspiring for them.
A lady I did this to was amazed at my small children eating raw fish and raw eggs... gee... that seemed special to her... but it made her day... and gave her the confidence to go raw.
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My friend who told me about RAFs, only told me, but did not eat them in front of me. It was months before I tried any. I might have tried eating it sooner had I seen a person doing so. You make a good point. Maybe healing and other good stuff would have come at a better time for me. We only ate organic vegetables together, as I didn't want any melted raw cheese (I might have tried it had it not been served all heated each and every time). Who knows? Thank you.
Many people can be saved.
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This evening beside me, his wife I helped last year begin her natural way of healing atherosclerosis. She started on raw vegan diet... now has switched to raw paleo by adding fertilized eggs... she's just about ready to add more raw animal foods... I volunteered that I would sit down with them again and teach his wife this time to eat raw animal foods and we can go to market together and get a meal so I can demonstrate to them.
I think humans learn by doing, by mimicking others, just hearing or reading about raw paleo diet is one thing, but actually being seated in front of a friend, a live human being eating raw animal foods with you and enjoying it must be inspiring for them.... gee...