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Title: What brought you to a Raw Paleo Diet?
Post by: Techydude on March 14, 2011, 05:36:33 pm
I've always been interested in why or what drove people to finding this true diet!

For me: I went on raw paleo because I was dissatisfied with my organic "healthy" cooked diet, I was constantly ravaged by gas and bloating and indigestion and heartburn because I always had to modify my diet as I have acid reflux. Being lactose intolerant in addition I tried lactose free milk and various nut milks afterwards but they still made me feel sick. In an effort to remove dairy as well as food sensitives from my diet in order to fend off depression, itchy scalp, digestion issues, and eczema, I slowly began eating less and less and hit a depression point in my diet cause I thought I would never feel good. But then searching on the internet I saw a video on the paleo diet (cooked) and then it stuck with me cause I was all like: "hey no dairy on this diet, works for me!". But then researching paleo further before jumping onto it I came upon raw paleo and got here and was completely turned off by cooked foods forever. So that's how I got to Raw Paleo.

Anyone else willing to share their story?
Title: Re: What brought you to a Raw Paleo Diet?
Post by: wodgina on March 14, 2011, 06:45:19 pm
Karl Loren, AV, TD.
Title: Re: What brought you to a Raw Paleo Diet?
Post by: TylerDurden on March 14, 2011, 07:06:31 pm
No choice, I had tried every other possible dietary combination other than breatharianism, so this was it or I was dead.
Title: Re: What brought you to a Raw Paleo Diet?
Post by: Techydude on March 14, 2011, 07:21:22 pm
No choice, I had tried every other possible dietary combination other than breatharianism, so this was it or I was dead.

Is breatherianism that thing where people live off of air with or without water and sunlight? Saw it on FX I think. I was like - O_o but to everyone their own thing.
Title: Re: What brought you to a Raw Paleo Diet?
Post by: Sitting Coyote on March 14, 2011, 07:39:54 pm
Lierre Keith, Derrick Jensen and a desire to de-civilize and un-domesticate myself.
Title: Re: What brought you to a Raw Paleo Diet?
Post by: goodsamaritan on March 14, 2011, 08:14:55 pm
I was sick and unhealthy for many years.

I tried every diet I could get my hands on:

- sad
- atkins
- vegetarian
- raw vegan
- fruitarian
- wai diet
- primal diet
- homo optimus diet

This really works for me:
- raw omnivore sorta instincto

Super thanks to tyler durden / geoff purcell I'm here
Title: Re: What brought you to a Raw Paleo Diet?
Post by: djr_81 on March 15, 2011, 12:05:32 am
No choice, I had tried every other possible dietary combination other than breatharianism, so this was it or I was dead.
Much the same here. I was painted into a corner and this seemed to be my last resort.
Title: Re: What brought you to a Raw Paleo Diet?
Post by: Max on March 15, 2011, 03:46:09 am
Hello All,

I talked about this briefly in the welcome section of the forum but what led me to this way of eating was my injury.  I injured my upper back/scapula/neck about 3½ years ago.  I was doing a one arm military press with a 50lbs dumbbell in my left hand (not my dominant hand).  I felt something in my upper back/scapula give way when I tried to force (cheat) the weight up using terrible form.  Ever since then I’ve had some sort of pain in my upper back/neck/scapula area.

I tried western medicine.  I did exactly what the doctors told me to do, to no avail.  I tried physical therapy for months at a time 3 different times.  I tried lidocane patches.  I tried muscle relaxers, anti-inflammatory drugs, and an anti-depressant (that was supposed to help with pain).  I have had trigger point injections multiple times.  I’ve been to two different chiropractors and an acupuncturist.  Nothing really helped that much.

While in chronic pain, I began caring less about my body, because in my mind it was already broken.  I started eating whatever I wanted all the time. (Chips, candy, and cookies in huge quantities)   I started drinking more heavily.  I gained 25lbs of fat on my lean frame in one winter.  (Probably 4 months)  I adopted the cooked paleo diet to lose weight.  While searching for info about cooked paleo I came across this site, and saw the success stories for healing various ailments and I thought I would give it a try.  So far I feel better on RPD, and I’ve only been doing it a few weeks.  I have less inflammation throughout my body, less pain.  In general I am feeling better on RPD, I hope I continue to improve.
Title: Re: What brought you to a Raw Paleo Diet?
Post by: rawmama on March 15, 2011, 05:27:12 am
Hi,
I started raw paleo almost 3 weeks ago. Prior to this diet I was a vegetarian for couple of years and primal dieter for 6.5 years. Primal diet was probably the closest to what I'm eating right now, because vegetarian diet, that I was on, was cooked. The reason why I was still searching for a different diet was beacause primal diet did not bring the complete healing I was expecting. I ran into a wise certified dietician who recommended going dairy free, and I didn't want to do that at first as primal diet is heavy dependent on dairy. I felt like I would be deprived of something very good for my body. I started searching the web and found a lot of good articles that talk about how harmful dairy is, and it doesn't matter if it's raw or pasteurized - it's not health bringing. Well, it turned out that this "miracle" food was stopping my body from the whole healing process. Right after I got rid of all dairy in my diet, true healing started. The main reason why I was trying all those diets was to find a cure for asthma, allergies and sinus problems that I had for most of my life. Right now I'm inhaler free and don't have to fight for another breath. My lungs are getting healthier every day. I'm hoping my sinuses are going to be next.
Title: Re: What brought you to a Raw Paleo Diet?
Post by: magnetic on March 15, 2011, 06:38:13 am
I somehow stumbled across http://www.rawpaleodiet.com/ last year, I think it was a result of reading Pottenger's Cats, which blew me away and I had to find out more about eating raw foods.  That is when I became interested in evolutionary diets and nutrition and specifically the paleolithic diet.  I started reading all I could about nutrition and primitive diets, and I credit the forums here, TD and others who have testified about the raw diet for giving me the confidence to go from cooked paleo to raw.

I had severe cyclical depression, low energy, I self-medicated with tobacco and alcohol, short attention span, and I had some minor physical symptoms (sore and inflamed rectal area, a nervous twitch on my cheek below my left eye, fatigued muscles).  I was a carb addict.

All of my symptoms have improved or disappeared, and today I noticed that for the first time in years I can stand up quickly without getting dizzy or light-headed.  My job involves lots of crouching down and standing up, all day long and for years I would get really faint if I stood up quickly.  Not any more it seems!
Title: Re: What brought you to a Raw Paleo Diet?
Post by: FoxWoman on March 15, 2011, 07:45:40 am
I came to RPD in search of a cure for my life-long psoriasis / seborrheic dermatitis and other health problems, such as hypoglycemia and cycles of anxiety & depression. Started about 6 years ago with Weston Price Diet, then moved to gluten-free, then to grain-free, then experimented with dairy-free and zero-carb - all without notifiable changes in my health. Only the two years on mostly raw animal foods (including dairy) helped me get rid of my skin problems and other health conditions. Unfortunately, at that point I abandoned my diet and returned to eating grains and cooked foods, and my skin and general health gradually deteriorated and now I am starting RPD anew, this time without dairy. Hopefully, it will work again.

FoxWoman
Title: Re: What brought you to a Raw Paleo Diet?
Post by: Techydude on March 15, 2011, 04:52:39 pm
Another thing that bought me to RPD is an effort to be whole and natural. After finding out the truth of genital cutting and its effect on me i've done everything I can to be natural once more - became an intactivist, ate natural via RPD today, get in touch with nature, grow my hair out, foreskin restoration so I can be whole, natural, and enjoy a normal great and full sensationsal sex life as nature intended. It sucks what society does to men and women, taking away their choices to even their own bodies and mutilating them and brining them away from nature and poisoning their bodies with toxins. I wanna be natural, whole, and happy once more as I was from temporarily before the cutting happened at birth =)
Title: Re: What brought you to a Raw Paleo Diet?
Post by: TylerDurden on March 15, 2011, 08:10:04 pm
Is breatherianism that thing where people live off of air with or without water and sunlight? Saw it on FX I think. I was like - O_o but to everyone their own thing.
Yep. Sadly my cousin is now into it albeit only partially.
Title: Re: What brought you to a Raw Paleo Diet?
Post by: magnetic on March 15, 2011, 08:37:02 pm
Yep. Sadly my cousin is now into it albeit only partially.

It makes an easy diagnosis for anorexia nervosa.
Title: Re: What brought you to a Raw Paleo Diet?
Post by: actionhero on March 15, 2011, 09:36:30 pm
Contrary to most here I did not come from the sickness route or inability to handle SAD. I just observed what gave me most power, energy and vitality and eliminated the rest. But yeah I did have to go through the raw vegan, fruitarian, cooked/raw paleo, primal diet route. Now kicking ass and taking names left and right. I feel my potential growing daily.
Title: Re: What brought you to a Raw Paleo Diet?
Post by: Techydude on March 16, 2011, 03:22:29 pm
Yep. Sadly my cousin is now into it albeit only partially.

I wonder if he would have to get some plants, an air filter, or move to the wild for organic air  :D

But to everyone their own thing, if it makes em happy then that's what matters. Let your cousin enjoy it until the truth settles in. In the wild people learn through experience aka the hard way, so maybe learning the hard way will bring your cousin the truth and to RPDing?
Title: Re: What brought you to a Raw Paleo Diet?
Post by: Löwenherz on March 16, 2011, 03:27:59 pm
No choice, I had tried every other possible dietary combination other than breatharianism, so this was it or I was dead.

Same here.

With the small difference that I even tried breatharianism. It really worked well!
The minor side effect was that I steadily lost weight...

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What brought you to a Raw Paleo Diet?
Post by: Löwenherz on March 16, 2011, 03:30:53 pm
I wonder if he would have to get some plants, an air filter, or move to the wild for organic air  :D

Oh, that's a great business idea.

Let's sell organic pre nuclear canned air!

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What brought you to a Raw Paleo Diet?
Post by: goodsamaritan on March 16, 2011, 06:02:21 pm
Same here.

With the small difference that I even tried breatharianism. It really worked well!
The minor side effect was that I steadily lost weight...

Löwenherz


Please tell us more about your breatharian experience.  do you have a website / blog post regarding your breatharian experience?
Title: Re: What brought you to a Raw Paleo Diet?
Post by: Techydude on March 16, 2011, 06:18:25 pm
Please tell us more about your breatharian experience.  do you have a website / blog post regarding your breatharian experience?


Yeah i'm interested too cause i've heard of many paleoers fasting but never forgoing everything, sounds cleansing and a great experience though temporarily.
Title: Re: What brought you to a Raw Paleo Diet?
Post by: magnetic on March 16, 2011, 08:09:25 pm
I have water fasted as long as 3 days, I don't know if that counts as breatharian.
Title: Breatharianism! Is it possible?
Post by: Löwenherz on March 17, 2011, 04:49:48 am
Please tell us more about your breatharian experience.  do you have a website / blog post regarding your breatharian experience?

Hi GS,

I was just joking... more or less.

I really enjoy reading reports about breatharianism. And to be honest, I believe that it is possible. Animals have to eat constantly. In my view humans are no animals, we are creators but lost our original powers. So we degenerated towards animals and lost many abilities.

There is one thing that I really can't understand. I feel BEST when I eat nearly nothing. For example in one of my fasting or near breatharianism experiments I have eaten only one cucumber per day for round about two weeks. It was a wonderful sunny and warm September at the Portuguese silver coast. I never felt better in my life. I never ran faster. I never felt stronger and I never had higher mental clarity. I was living in a wonderful forrest far away from any pollution. When I visited the next town I felt weak immediately. Back in the forrest I felt this super-strength again. After round about two weeks I ate ripe figs from the trees. Hundreds of fig trees with thousands of fully ripe sweet juicy figs around my house. These trees acted like tempations during my fasting experiment. After eating the figs all my strength suddenly disappeared.

People usually laugh about this story and it's OK!

But for me, the point is that I always feel FANTASTIC if I eat only one piece of fruit (for example one tomatoe or one cucumber) per day. And I feel physically very strong (it's also measurable) as long as I am living and sleeping in 'wild' natural unspoiled places. After these two weeks my body weight was 1 kg higher. While living in cities I feel like crap if I eat so little food. I cities, in society, in polluted places etc. I always need a lot of animal food. Otherwise I become weak and lose weight quickly.

The question is: A human body should go into energy saving mode when eating only one tomatoe per day. Where does this power come from? And why? It makes absolutely no sense in our conventional thinking. And why does it work only in "wild" natural places?

Somehow we CAN receive other forms of energy. I had always the feeling the trees in a natural unspoiled forrest are a good energy source for us. Our views are usually too materialistic, IMO. Eating food seems to be an emergency mode in which our mental power is compromised.

Ok, that's enough. I will do further experiments...

Greetings from Portugal

Löwenherz
Title: Re: Breatharianism! Is it possible?
Post by: Techydude on March 17, 2011, 04:54:00 am
Hi GS,

I was just joking... more or less.

I really enjoy reading reports about breatharianism. And to be honest, I believe that it is possible. Animals have to eat constantly. In my view humans are no animals, we are creators but lost our original powers. So we degenerated towards animals and lost many abilities.

There is one thing that I really can't understand. I feel BEST when I eat nearly nothing. For example in one of my fasting or near breatharianism experiments I have eaten only one cucumber per day for round about two weeks. It was a wonderful sunny and warm September at the Portuguese silver coast. I never felt better in my life. I never ran faster. I never felt stronger and I never had higher mental clarity. I was living in a wonderful forrest far away from any pollution. When I visited the next town I felt weak immediately. Back in the forrest I felt this super-strength again. After round about two weeks I ate ripe figs from the trees. Hundreds of fig trees with thousands of fully ripe sweet juicy figs around my house. These trees acted like tempations during my fasting experiment. After eating the figs all my strength suddenly disappeared.

People usually laugh about this story and it's OK!

But for me, the point is that I always feel FANTASTIC if I eat only one piece of fruit (for example one tomatoe or one cucumber) per day. And I feel physically very strong (it's also measurable) as long as I am living and sleeping in 'wild' natural unspoiled places. After these two weeks my body weight was 1 kg higher. While living in cities I feel like crap if I eat so little food. I cities, in society, in polluted places etc. I always need a lot of animal food. Otherwise I become weak and lose weight quickly.

The question is: A human body should go into energy saving mode when eating only one tomatoe per day. Where does this power come from? And why? It makes absolutely no sense in our conventional thinking. And why does it work only in "wild" natural places?

Somehow we CAN receive other forms of energy. I had always the feeling the trees in a natural unspoiled forrest are a good energy source for us. Our views are usually too materialistic, IMO. Eating food seems to be an emergency mode in which our mental power is compromised.

Ok, that's enough. I will do further experiments...

Greetings from Portugal

Löwenherz


Interesting maybe we are creators or supernatural. I always wanted to get back in touch with nature, maybe at a beach, a forest, somewhere wild. After watching discovery i've yearned to go to the wilds of the amazon forest and survive like Bear Grylls.
Title: Re: Breatharianism! Is it possible?
Post by: Löwenherz on March 17, 2011, 05:08:26 am
Interesting maybe we are creators or supernatural. I always wanted to get back in touch with nature, maybe at a beach, a forest, somewhere wild. After watching discovery i've yearned to go to the wilds of the amazon forest and survive like Bear Grylls.

When I was hiking though the wild central Namib desert I also felt a kind of very strong power.

I'm sure that we can get all answers to our questions if we go back to wild nature.

Unfortunately we have no time for such nonsens. We are just too busy in building modern and reliable nuclear power plants and other very important stuff.

Löwenherz
Title: Re: Breatharianism! Is it possible?
Post by: achillezzz on March 17, 2011, 05:14:35 am
hey Löwenherz how old are you man?
Title: Re: What brought you to a Raw Paleo Diet?
Post by: MaximilianKohler on March 17, 2011, 12:09:36 pm
I have had major medical problems for 10+ years that have left me disabled. I saw a video of Aajonus Vonderplanitz eating raw meat on youtube and he looked very strong, so I got his book from my local library and now I'm eating whatever raw I can afford(mainly raw organs and raw fat for $1.50/lb each). I had some improvements in the beginning that went away. I'm pretty sure that the less fiber in my diet the more energy and stronger I feel(since less water and energy needed for digestion) so now I'm going to try only beef blood and raw cow's milk - maybe also some raw fat, brains, and occasional bits of glands and other raw meats.
Title: Re: Breatharianism! Is it possible?
Post by: Techydude on March 17, 2011, 11:27:29 pm
hey Löwenherz how old are you man?

Ya he's so mysterious lol!
Title: Re: Breatharianism! Is it possible?
Post by: Löwenherz on March 18, 2011, 12:52:20 am
hey Löwenherz how old are you man?

Oh, I don't know, I lost my ID card while swimming from Lisbon to New York during my first Breatharian experiment. So, really nothing mysterious...

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What brought you to a Raw Paleo Diet?
Post by: Wolf on March 18, 2011, 01:18:54 am
Fortunately I never had any serious health problems or serious problems on SAD that led me through so many different diets trying to find something to help(I would never be able to become vegan or vegetarian, as I hate vegetables and love meat).  I felt like I was fine on a SAD diet, other than sleeping for 10+ hours a day and sometimes even 20 - 30 hours at once, and having a pretty bad case of acne.  The thing that more brought me to Raw Paleo is my love of nature and animals, mainly Wolves, as well as my love of eating steak as rare as I could get it, and always having wanted to try it raw.  I did want to try to eat healthier, and I'm sure I was looking up ways to eat healthy and stumbled across this website, where I found out that almost everything I felt about diet (that everyone told me was bad) was true.  Raw meat, which I have always wanted to eat, is actually GOOD for you, bread and grains, which I have always hated, are actually bad for you, and eating food separated, which I have always hated eating mixed foods or foods that have touched each other, is better for digestion, vegetables which I have always hated, aren't as good for you as people think they are.. I pretty much jumped from a SAD straight into Raw paleo, and that is what made me realize that my constant fatigue, my acne, and all the little problems that I never knew I had were actually caused by my diet.  I knew already that most health problems were caused by what you eat, but I never knew it was to such an extent as to even affect how you smell.  I thought humans were just stinky naturally! 

After finding this website, and realizing that raw meat won't actually make me sick like everyone thinks, it broke my fear of eating raw meat and I started eating it a lot more.  I had only eaten it about 3 times in my life previously, but I had been afraid of getting sick from it (though I never did) like everyone always says you will.. as if the meat itself is going to poison you, rather than the pathogens from sick cows.  I had always been harped on for eating my steaks cooked rare, people telling me how raw meat doesn't even digest, and many other lies, but I never cared because my rare steaks tasted divine, and made me feel amazing.  Eating raw meat makes me feel even more amazing, I've gone from sleeping 10 - 30 hours a day, down to 6 - 8 hours usually, or less if I eat more meat, with more energy than I ever had before. 


As for the fasting, and going off no food or water.. There were many times during my SAD diet that I went a day or two without eating, either because I didn't feel like eating or because there was nothing to eat, and I had always felt better when I did that.  I always seemed to have more energy when I didn't eat for the entire day, and hardly drank anything either, or even if I hadn't slept all night either..  But I couldn't do it all the time, because there were also times when not eating all day would make me feel light headed or give me a headache.  But there was a time, when I was severely depressed, that I went at least 24 hours without food or drink, not a single thing I consumed, and I felt fine, other than for my depression which was horrible.  I haven't fasted much after switching to raw paleo, but I did just fast for about 24 hours not too long ago, and had that same vibrant energy feeling that I had felt before when I fasted on SAD.  But going too long on a fast, I also start to feel weak, and I know I do need to eat something soon, but it does feel as if my body goes into some sort of starvation mode when I fast, where it runs off some stored energy source.. which is probably any fat I have left on my body now that I think about it, since I did seem to loose weight after my fast.  I did want to try fasting, and to break my fast with high-fat foods, thinking that would better help with a transition from a high carb diet to a high fat diet..
Title: Re: What brought you to a Raw Paleo Diet?
Post by: raw-al on March 18, 2011, 06:27:22 am
Re: the breatharian bit, I am no expert and can vouch for nothing on the subject, however there are a # of people that are, or claim to be breatharians.

There is reference in Paramahansa Yogananda's famous book "autobiography of A Yogi" that refers to a female Yogin or Yogini who abstains from eating.
Other Yogic groups (I forget which ones off hand) speak of a few people being in this category.

People in the last stages of enlightenment eat very little or nothing as there is no need to due to the cessation of the mind's wanderings.

HRM or Hira Ratan Manek of sungazing fame says that he was 400 + - days with just water under supervision in a hospital in India. Somewhere on the web is the article that describes it with a Doctor being the narrator. There is a medical description of his weight loss and then he stayed at a certain weight. His Pineal gland is enlarged which is unusual because it normally shrinks with age. He regularly just consumes liquids such as tea milk etc to be sociable.

Some people say not nice things about him and some say glowing things. I chose to stay away from all that gossip.
Essentially he says that he studied some ancient books on the subject of sungazing and tried various methods till he came up with one that is safe and easy. He sells nothing and is retired and spends the money he earned in his life to travel around spreading the gospel of sungazing. He will visit your area if you wish.

Regarding breatarianism he says that when you follow the method he devised you will gradually eat less and then at some point well into the process you will have less, to no desire to eat. So it's not like you wake up tomorrow and decide not to eat.

My GF and I are following his method and we are not far from the end of the process. Our food consumption has dropped quite a bit. That happens very close to the beginning and everyone who does the gazing reports the same.

He recommends eating raw BTW and does not specify vege, although being a Jane (religious group from India) he is a vege.

He says that water is essential for a breatharian.
Title: Re: What brought you to a Raw Paleo Diet?
Post by: raw-al on March 18, 2011, 06:39:29 am
I stumbled onto the raw diet due to a sungazing yahoo group.

Someone was talking about raw paleo diet and eating dirt (had a fancy name like some kind of clay) and various other unusual dietary propensities.

I am a long term Ayurvedic practitioner and so I thought eating raw meant raw vege so I was surprised when somebody said something about raw meat. I knew raw vege would kill me so when they mentioned raw meat I was shocked. I had to read more so then I asked and was told about Aajonus Vonderplanitz.

That was a mind bender but we started following his recommendations about a year ago.

I was not driven to this by any illness or issue, just curiosity. It's an expensive diet. Requires a lot of planning when travelling.
Title: Re: What brought you to a Raw Paleo Diet?
Post by: raw-al on March 18, 2011, 06:43:32 am
Sorry I forgot to add that it frees up my GF from cooking and cleaning.

I am shocked  :o that every woman who is a slave to the stove has not latched onto the diet.

It's a natural diet for a "young, not interested in cooking... period, male" such as I was a long time ago. ;D ;D

Might've even saved me from my not so good marriage.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Breatharianism! Is it possible?
Post by: Techydude on March 18, 2011, 02:52:48 pm
Fortunately I never had any serious health problems or serious problems on SAD that led me through so many different diets trying to find something to help(I would never be able to become vegan or vegetarian, as I hate vegetables and love meat).  I felt like I was fine on a SAD diet, other than sleeping for 10+ hours a day and sometimes even 20 - 30 hours at once, and having a pretty bad case of acne.  The thing that more brought me to Raw Paleo is my love of nature and animals, mainly Wolves, as well as my love of eating steak as rare as I could get it, and always having wanted to try it raw.  I did want to try to eat healthier, and I'm sure I was looking up ways to eat healthy and stumbled across this website, where I found out that almost everything I felt about diet (that everyone told me was bad) was true.  Raw meat, which I have always wanted to eat, is actually GOOD for you, bread and grains, which I have always hated, are actually bad for you, and eating food separated, which I have always hated eating mixed foods or foods that have touched each other, is better for digestion, vegetables which I have always hated, aren't as good for you as people think they are.. I pretty much jumped from a SAD straight into Raw paleo, and that is what made me realize that my constant fatigue, my acne, and all the little problems that I never knew I had were actually caused by my diet.  I knew already that most health problems were caused by what you eat, but I never knew it was to such an extent as to even affect how you smell.  I thought humans were just stinky naturally!  

After finding this website, and realizing that raw meat won't actually make me sick like everyone thinks, it broke my fear of eating raw meat and I started eating it a lot more.  I had only eaten it about 3 times in my life previously, but I had been afraid of getting sick from it (though I never did) like everyone always says you will.. as if the meat itself is going to poison you, rather than the pathogens from sick cows.  I had always been harped on for eating my steaks cooked rare, people telling me how raw meat doesn't even digest, and many other lies, but I never cared because my rare steaks tasted divine, and made me feel amazing.  Eating raw meat makes me feel even more amazing, I've gone from sleeping 10 - 30 hours a day, down to 6 - 8 hours usually, or less if I eat more meat, with more energy than I ever had before.  


As for the fasting, and going off no food or water.. There were many times during my SAD diet that I went a day or two without eating, either because I didn't feel like eating or because there was nothing to eat, and I had always felt better when I did that.  I always seemed to have more energy when I didn't eat for the entire day, and hardly drank anything either, or even if I hadn't slept all night either..  But I couldn't do it all the time, because there were also times when not eating all day would make me feel light headed or give me a headache.  But there was a time, when I was severely depressed, that I went at least 24 hours without food or drink, not a single thing I consumed, and I felt fine, other than for my depression which was horrible.  I haven't fasted much after switching to raw paleo, but I did just fast for about 24 hours not too long ago, and had that same vibrant energy feeling that I had felt before when I fasted on SAD.  But going too long on a fast, I also start to feel weak, and I know I do need to eat something soon, but it does feel as if my body goes into some sort of starvation mode when I fast, where it runs off some stored energy source.. which is probably any fat I have left on my body now that I think about it, since I did seem to loose weight after my fast.  I did want to try fasting, and to break my fast with high-fat foods, thinking that would better help with a transition from a high carb diet to a high fat diet..

Did your depression improve on the Raw paleo diet?

@Lowerhz LMAO you remain shrouded in mystery xD


Also hope breatheranarians have filtered water
Title: Re: What brought you to a Raw Paleo Diet?
Post by: Löwenherz on March 20, 2011, 01:30:12 am
I am shocked  :o that every woman who is a slave to the stove has not latched onto the diet.

It seems that many women enjoy being a "slave to the stove"... tsss... because theire mothers were also slaves to the stove (?)

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What brought you to a Raw Paleo Diet?
Post by: Techydude on March 20, 2011, 10:18:10 am
I'm a guy and I too used to be a slave to the stove. Cooking everything. At one point I wanted to go to Culinary School. But now I realize chefs are the unhealthies people on the planet next to SAD eaters and vegans/vegetarians.
Title: Re: What brought you to a Raw Paleo Diet?
Post by: Qommon on March 25, 2011, 11:45:19 am
Hi everybody, I have always been fascinated with the idea of being self sufficient, so my long road to RPD actually started with becoming disillusioned with minimalist urban camping. I have decided to start a farm where I wil grow my own food, water and energy and I needed to know what my food needs were. I experimented with vegetarian but I didn't really like beans and, quite frankly, the idea of growing my own grains and harvesting them in a sustainable way made me want to break down and weep. My brother is an athlete and his trainer has him on a strange hybrid paleo diet, but that is what lead me on to the paleo diet. I had a really good experience with that re weight loss and muscle tone with minimal effort (I wasn't exactly heavy and I have an active job/lifestyle) as well as a huge improvement in energy levels. What made me switch to the raw paleo diet (besides making complete logical sense from how I understand the world to work) was sheer lack of time. I simply do not have time to cook and do dishes at this point in my life. Another plus is on my farm I won't need as much fuel to cook with!! Has anybody else had experience with paleo farming?
On a side note, I have been eating raw for a couple weeks and on the weekend my roommate made burgers and I thought, "What the hell?" and ate the (cooked) burger. Suffice to say, it did not agree with my digestion. I don't think I will be going back to cooked foods, as the transition from cooked to raw was painless but the first cooked meat I had after only a few weeks of raw meat caused extreme physical distress (well maybe not extreme, but deffinatly distressing :P). Two days after the burger, my raw meat tasted orders of magnitude better and I never had a problem with the taste of raw meat.
Title: Re: Breatharianism! Is it possible?
Post by: Wolf on July 13, 2011, 11:29:10 pm
Did your depression improve on the Raw paleo diet?

My depression was caused by incidents that happened in my life that had nothing to do with diet.  It was not spontaneous depression, it was depression from a cause, and changing what I ate would not have changed how I felt in those situations.
Title: Re: Breatharianism! Is it possible?
Post by: kurite on July 14, 2011, 08:44:35 am
My depression was caused by incidents that happened in my life that had nothing to do with diet.  It was not spontaneous depression, it was depression from a cause, and changing what I ate would not have changed how I felt in those situations.
If you get depressed from an event it doesn't mean that you ever had depression. It just meant that you responded to an event.
Title: Re: Breatharianism! Is it possible?
Post by: RawZi on July 14, 2011, 12:15:49 pm
If you get depressed from an event it doesn't mean that you ever had depression. It just meant that you responded to an event.

    I was on a high dose of antidepressant which I needed up till I went on the primal diet.  I had tried so many diets including fasting for weeks at a time on nothing but a little water, no diet before did anything noticeable for depression as long as I needed.  Mind you I wasn't severely depressed long that time, and it was due to actual rl circumstances too, like Wolf, and it was the only time I needed antidepressants.  Once I started pd (and I started it fully from the start, starting with only food grass pastured cultured butter) after maybe two weeks my depression fully abated.  I went in to see my prescribing doctor, really good doctor and human being, and he told me it was fine to go off the medication and I continued to see him till all my other medical problems resolved.  I had no withdrawals this time.  I have not been on antidepressants since.  An extremely high fat RAFD is so instrumental in dealing with living when really feeling bad due to apparently unchangeable hopeless tragic etc circumstance.  How do you think humanity survived the ice age? Can you imagine?  That's what I think anyway.
Title: Re: Breatharianism! Is it possible?
Post by: Wolf on July 15, 2011, 09:23:21 am
If you get depressed from an event it doesn't mean that you ever had depression. It just meant that you responded to an event.

They were events which caused me extreme sadness, which in my book means I was depressed.. since it was painful enough to cause me to be unable to eat, painful enough to make me go from taking all the stairs every single time, to feeling too weak to even walk from my car to the elevator, in one day..
Title: Re: Breatharianism! Is it possible?
Post by: RawZi on July 15, 2011, 08:15:04 pm
They were events which caused me extreme sadness, which in my book ... all the stairs every single time, to feeling too weak to even walk from my car to the elevator, in one day..

    Sorry about your sadness.  Many of my blood tests changed greatly in a two day time period to much worse after an event that was too hard for me to bear.  Actually I think it changed within a half hour, but I had the lab work two days apart.  I couldn't eat feeling like that either, but that wasn't much of a change, as I had not been able to digest much for a couple years before that either. I was vegan then too.  I don't know what was sustaining me.  I guess it was that I kept trying; because I had faith and patience to go for and eventually wait for answers.  You know what they say, that when you aren't even out and looking, it comes to you, or something like that ..

    When in mourning I didn't eat for a week and I felt fine and energetic.  I didn't consider myself breatharian at the time.  I just didn't feel like taking anything in.  I guess I felt if I ate, with my body's reactions, that eating could put me in danger.  I slept fine during that time, very refreshing, good timing etc.  I feel good while fasting anyway, since food makes me have reactions.  I was a cooked vegan at the time.  When starting food again the first day I only ate a half a tangerine.  It's all I wanted.  It was very good though.