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Raw Paleo Diet Forums => Health => Topic started by: wodgina on October 08, 2011, 08:07:42 am
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Nothing to say.
Durianrider shooting up vitamin B-12 at Woodstock (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ7WYJRWzX8#)
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Sad, sick and idiotic.
Every vegan and ever PETA supporter should see this.
Reduced to taking B12 shots because of refusal to eat animals ideology.
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Sad, sick and idiotic.
Every vegan and ever PETA supporter should see this.
Reduced to taking B12 shots because of refusal to eat animals ideology.
I actually have more of a problem with him trolling this forum than with him shooting up B-12. Him shooting up B-12 doesn't inconvenience me directly.
Unless he turns away from veganism, he's going to have a sad, pitiful decline into ill health and finally, early death. How many fruitarian gurus will have to age horribly and die young, before people wake up?
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My girlfriend asks "where does the vial of b12 come from? What's the source?"
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... and how the heck did our fruitarian ancestors make syringes and needles out of stone? Big OUCH!
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... and how the heck did our fruitarian ancestors make syringes and needles out of stone? Big OUCH!
this is precisely what I was just talking about in the other forum..thread
http://www.rawpaleodietforum.com/instinctoanopsology/re-fat-suettallow-and-butter%27s-place-in-instincto/msg77423/#msg77423 (http://www.rawpaleodietforum.com/instinctoanopsology/re-fat-suettallow-and-butter%27s-place-in-instincto/msg77423/#msg77423)
Of course we can call into question whether a vegan diet is workable if it needs supplements, but unfortunately as the vegans point out is this issues is much more complex than not eating meat. When tested lots of omnivores, heavy meat eaters and even raw paleo dieters might need b-12 injections (or supplements but these hardly work) depending on their situation before one assimilates/creates b-12 properly. Are we going to be as dogmatic as them in saying we do not need such things because our diet is perfect and not get tested?
I'm not capable of congratulating the person in question and don't think veganism is good nor does veganism supported by such things make for a healthy diet. On the other hand people believing in veganism and against any kind of supplementation based on this same awful concept of "what is done in nature" is even worse, developing problems possibly no RPD can fix. Clearly many vegans could be healthier (perhaps have better functioning to make better decisions) if they take b-12 injections.
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Clearly many vegans could be healthier (perhaps have better functioning to make better decisions) if they take b-12 injections.
Or they could do what I do and drink blood >D
Even paleo dieters could benefit from drinking the blood of a fresh kill. I am sure its a safer and more effective way to ensure optimal b 12 levels than taking injections.
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Or they could do what I do and drink blood >D
Even paleo dieters could benefit from drinking the blood of a fresh kill. I am sure its a safer and more effective way to ensure optimal b 12 levels than taking injections.
heh, well there are certainly ways to get b-12 that way. :)
Basically some people merely lack some b-12 because of veg/veganism or 'washing produce' as they like to say..but alot of times its other issues, which is why so many meat eaters are deficient. I being one of them. Even after my first year of raw animal foods it was super low. Of course its fine now (or was last time I checked), but there is certainly people that were longer term in worse shape. In retrospect would of deffinetly cut the corner and not suffered. Its hypocritical in many ways but then again 'whatever works'.
I'll drink to that though -d
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Watching people shoot up makes me queezy.
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... and how the heck did our fruitarian ancestors make syringes and needles out of stone? Big OUCH!
This is an excellent point, because I've seen DurianRider argue in videos and posts that taking B12 injections is natural and normal and that just about everyone should do it.
Sometimes DR contradicts himself and claims his B12 deficiency is due to breathing exhaust fumes or extensive endurance exercise or other excuses. Consistency is not a strong point of his. ;D
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In retrospect would of deffinetly cut the corner and not suffered.
I can't disagree. This makes sense.
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This is an excellent point, because I've seen DurianRider argue in videos and posts that taking B12 injections is natural and normal and that just about everyone should do it.
Sometimes DR contradicts himself and claims his B12 deficiency is due to breathing exhaust fumes or extensive endurance exercise or other excuses. Consistency is not a strong point of his. ;D
He pissed me off when he came trolling here. Then his little vegan bitches came trolling too. That was irritating.
I'm pretty much at the point where, as soon as a newbie (less than 100 posts or so) mentions DurianRider, I'll ban them.
DurianRider, you're dumber than a bag of hammers. Your followers are too. If you come, I will ban.
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Listening to him speak is so caustic. A couple times I felt like watching some of his videos, just curious of how much of a moron he really is, but 30 seconds in I can't bear it anymore and I shut off the video. He doesn't even have to mention how meat is bad or fruit is great, 30 seconds of him babbling about being awesome and how he loves his awesome friend or some girl eating too much nuts or whatever and I have to shut that damn demagogue up.
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Nothing to say.
What a wonderful natural lifestyle!
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